2ndGenBeaver
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Mar 12, 2018 22:04:44 GMT -8
They were really happy to get their highest seed yet. Beat Missou, one of two losses suffered by Mercer was to WKU. Playing close to home. Coaching connection - the WKU coach and SR were both assistants on the Pan Am games team. Looks like they have plenty of height: 4 players at 6'1", one 6'3" and one 6'4". Staring at their stats page, their top scorer Brown is 22.7ppg, almost all inside the arc, shooting 41%. Their other leading scorer, (a different) Brown, is at 17 ppg, and has 62 3's (shooting 41% from out there). Anyone have more info on WKU? Go Beavers! |
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Post by 411500 on Mar 13, 2018 6:49:00 GMT -8
Interesting info - thanks for digging it up.....
The Beavs will have their hands full....
GO BEAVS !!
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Post by kersting13 on Mar 13, 2018 7:42:19 GMT -8
From their roster page, I can tell that the Browns are not related.
They don't list anyone as a Center.
Interesting that their top 3-point shooter is also their top rebounder.
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Post by jefframp on Mar 13, 2018 9:11:43 GMT -8
Here's a copy and paste from a previous thread:
Looks like the only common opponent was Notre Dame who handed WK their only home loss of the season 78-65.
The Hilltoppers went 7-0 on neutral floors so we get a chance to end that streak.
Additionally the Hiltoppers will have to travel all of 240 miles from Bowling Green whilst da Beavers must travel 2610 miles from Corvallis (driving distance and not air miles).
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2ndGenBeaver
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Mar 13, 2018 14:01:15 GMT -8
Game Notes are now posted for Friday's game.... Marie's next rebound will put her at 800 for her career. WKU actually holds a 1-0 advantage over OSU, stemming from a loss in the tournament back in the Tanja Kostic era.....time to even the series. Go Beavers!
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Post by lotrader on Mar 13, 2018 20:37:16 GMT -8
You can watch their games on the web. They have a couple of athletes, but nothing like PAC12 athletes. I believe OSU will handle Western Kentucky. They won't have an answer for OSU if we manage to get Marie Gulich to recognize the double team quickly and pass out to our 3-point shooters. I also think Pivec will have a field day if she drives to the basket. All based upon the games I was able to watch on the web.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 1:31:02 GMT -8
You can watch their games on the web. They have a couple of athletes, but nothing like PAC12 athletes. I believe OSU will handle Western Kentucky. They won't have an answer for OSU if we manage to get Marie Gulich to recognize the double team quickly and pass out to our 3-point shooters. I also think Pivec will have a field day if she drives to the basket. All based upon the games I was able to watch on the web. "100 miles of hate" -- that's what they call their rivalry WKU vs Middle TennesseeAt 10:20, Ivy Brown looks confident hitting an NBA 3-pt shot. Shoots >40% from there. Their tight perimeter defense will bother our 3-pt shooters: Imagine 4 players who play defense like Jordin Canada. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2018 8:05:04 GMT -8
"100 miles of hate" -- that's what they call their rivalry WKU vs Middle TennesseeAt 10:20, Ivy Brown looks confident hitting an NBA 3-pt shot. Shoots >40% from there. Their tight perimeter defense will bother our 3-pt shooters: Imagine 4 players who play defense like Jordin Canada. They have four players who play defense like the Pac 12 Defensive Player of the Year? We are toast indeed! 🤣 Maybe next year will be our year... I'm not referring to their starters specifically. If you watch the video, at some point they've rotated in some players who are all very fast and quick. They double-team very quickly on the perimeter such that the offensive player is not able to pass, and they adjust to cover open perimeter shooters very quickly. No, they're not Jordin Canada, but they're quick enough and fast enough to cause us problems. That quickness is the thing that disrupts our offense so much, when their players are quicker than ours at every position. Quickness is not our forte. |
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Post by beavdowg on Mar 14, 2018 10:21:09 GMT -8
So the question is, how does Rueck counter that style of defense to win the game? Get the ball inside to our big early and beat them with our size?
Go Beavs!
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Post by willtalk on Mar 14, 2018 10:24:37 GMT -8
The major problem with Oregon St is that the players hold the ball too long before passing to the next player. They receive a pass and then hesitate before making the next pass. They need to swing the ball around quicker. They do not seem to understand that the player you pass to doe not always have to be open. You pass to establish offensive flow and create defensive reaction that then opens up players after a series of passes. They are geared into only hitting the open player and do not seem to comprehend using passing to establishing offensive flow. Not much BB IQ at play.
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Post by hof99 on Mar 14, 2018 11:15:47 GMT -8
The Offensive piece that is puzzling to me is that on several sets, we have two women 'standing' in the corners while we have three on five (after defense collapses), double-teaming the ball.
We are going to need more movement 'without the ball', to open up the lanes and to get an offensive rebound.
I also, maybe not this year, look forward to us getting more aggressive on defense. I mean, if the officials are going to allow NBA style play, then we better take advantage of that. Getting slapped and bumped on your home court is definitely not fair to our athletes.
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Post by lotrader on Mar 14, 2018 11:54:30 GMT -8
They have four players who play defense like the Pac 12 Defensive Player of the Year? We are toast indeed! 🤣 Maybe next year will be our year... I'm not referring to their starters specifically. If you watch the video, at some point they've rotated in some players who are all very fast and quick. They double-team very quickly on the perimeter such that the offensive player is not able to pass, and they adjust to cover open perimeter shooters very quickly. No, they're not Jordin Canada, but they're quick enough and fast enough to cause us problems. That quickness is the thing that disrupts our offense so much, when their players are quicker than ours at every position. Quickness is not our forte. That is a HUGE stretch to say they have 4 x Jordan Canada(s). Not even close. If you watch enough footage, you can see WKU guards/wings don't have the same reaction time that you see with PAC12 guards/wings. Definitely not as athletic. As I stated in another post, if Gulich is quick to recognize double teams and finds open OSU players, it is going to be a much simpler game for OSU. WKU is a solid team, but, they are in no way as athletic as the Beavers. |
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Post by kersting13 on Mar 14, 2018 12:30:27 GMT -8
The major problem with Oregon St is that the players hold the ball too long before passing to the next player. They receive a pass and then hesitate before making the next pass. They need to swing the ball around quicker. They do not seem to understand that the player you pass to doe not always have to be open. You pass to establish offensive flow and create defensive reaction that then opens up players after a series of passes. They are geared into only hitting the open player and do not seem to comprehend using passing to establishing offensive flow. Not much BB IQ at play. I always thought it was a bad idea to pass to a player who was not open, you know, because it leads to steals and turnovers. Learn something new every day, I guess. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 14, 2018 22:15:15 GMT -8
The major problem with Oregon St is that the players hold the ball too long before passing to the next player. They receive a pass and then hesitate before making the next pass. They need to swing the ball around quicker. They do not seem to understand that the player you pass to doe not always have to be open. You pass to establish offensive flow and create defensive reaction that then opens up players after a series of passes. They are geared into only hitting the open player and do not seem to comprehend using passing to establishing offensive flow. Not much BB IQ at play. I always thought it was a bad idea to pass to a player who was not open, you know, because it leads to steals and turnovers. Learn something new every day, I guess.  Ya... should be "hot potato", open or not! Lol... reading that post and BB IQ don't seem to go together! |
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Post by willtalk on Mar 15, 2018 13:53:47 GMT -8
The Offensive piece that is puzzling to me is that on several sets, we have two women 'standing' in the corners while we have three on five (after defense collapses), double-teaming the ball. We are going to need more movement 'without the ball', to open up the lanes and to get an offensive rebound. I also, maybe not this year, look forward to us getting more aggressive on defense. I mean, if the officials are going to allow NBA style play, then we better take advantage of that. Getting slapped and bumped on your home court is definitely not fair to our athletes. You mentioned another aspect that I was going to mention but didn't because I didn't want to get into too much detail. I believe this team is trying to blend too different styles of play which are not compatible. Perhaps that is not correct. It should be attempting to transition from on style to another. I think that is a hold over from the Weisner years and also bad habits picked up in high school by some of the players. Effective offensive flow, passing the ball also requires player movement with out the ball. I saw this same problem manifest itself within other college teams as well. You have players that work better under chaotic conditions which allows them to freelance and others that work better within an offensive flow. The two do not blend together well. It's the Allen Iverson factor. To those that freelance player movement gets in their way. They are players who do not make others around them better. If that player does not have talent around them it works, but if they have talent that talent is wasted. They can learn to co-exist but the free lancer must adapt and find their nitch not the other way around. That is what Melo is finally having to do. |
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