beavsteve
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Post by beavsteve on Feb 26, 2018 10:16:53 GMT -8
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Post by mbabeav on Feb 26, 2018 11:20:52 GMT -8
Looks like if we win the tourney, we host the first two games, or maybe make it to the finals. Would love to take the lsdtr to the woodshed and jump over them and CLA, U - rpi would jump bigtime and top 16 would be assured.
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Post by 411500 on Feb 26, 2018 13:20:13 GMT -8
Maybe someone can track down this one:
How many WBB teams have defeated TWO Top 10 teams this season?
The Beavs have (Oregon & UCLA) - you would think this would carry some weight with the selection committee....
I really don't think the Beavs need to win the Pac-12 tourney to host. Hopefully, 2 wins will do it. If we're very lucky 1 win will do it.
Being Ranked # 10 at the end of conference play must carry quite a bit of significance.
GO BEAVS. !!
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 26, 2018 23:18:57 GMT -8
Maybe someone can track down this one: How many WBB teams have defeated TWO Top 10 teams this season? The Beavs have (Oregon & UCLA) - you would think this would carry some weight with the selection committee.... I really don't think the Beavs need to win the Pac-12 tourney to host. Hopefully, 2 wins will do it. If we're very lucky 1 win will do it. Being Ranked # 10 at the end of conference play must carry quite a bit of significance. GO BEAVS. !! I'm not going to check, but anytime you ask a question like that look at UCONN... they are like 12-0 vs ranked teams in their league by 29 pts a game... 98-0 @ 43 pts a game vs the league overall since 2014. Just crazy numbers. Hope they get beat again! PS- curious so I checked... #16 Furd +25 #17 Maryland +25 #9 UCLA +18 #5 Norte Dame +9 #20 S Florida +51 #7 Texas +4 #8 S Carolina +25 #4 Louisville +9 #20 S Florida +29 So beat (5) top 10... (9) top 20... by 19.4 pts/game |
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Post by lefty on Feb 26, 2018 23:32:50 GMT -8
My understanding is that the selection committee pays little attention to rankings. Just look at the Zag men's team they are ranked 7th but suppose to get a 5 or possibly a 4 seed. For what's it worth the last bracket "expert" had us as playing in Athens, Georgia as a 5 seed
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Post by green85 on Feb 27, 2018 9:31:54 GMT -8
Maybe someone can track down this one: How many WBB teams have defeated TWO Top 10 teams this season? The Beavs have (Oregon & UCLA) - you would think this would carry some weight with the selection committee.... I really don't think the Beavs need to win the Pac-12 tourney to host. Hopefully, 2 wins will do it. If we're very lucky 1 win will do it. Being Ranked # 10 at the end of conference play must carry quite a bit of significance. GO BEAVS. !! Oregon beat two top 10 teams in 2018 ... OSU and UCLA Oregon lost to three top 10 teams in 2018 ... OSU, Mississippi State, Louisville Only other loss was to #16 Stanford |
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Post by newduke2 on Feb 27, 2018 10:28:46 GMT -8
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Post by bmoc on Feb 27, 2018 20:38:52 GMT -8
I have no doubt that they take all of these factors into consideration, but attendance, ticket sales and merchandise have to also be on the table. OSU Beaver fans support women's basketball. Period. That translates into more revenue.
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Post by bennyskid on Feb 27, 2018 21:17:20 GMT -8
I have no doubt that they take all of these factors into consideration, but attendance, ticket sales and merchandise have to also be on the table. OSU Beaver fans support women's basketball. Period. That translates into more revenue. The committee is not allowed to look at any of those, period. And we're not all that special. We rank 17th in the nation - as fans, we are just dragging the girls down. |
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Post by willtalk on Feb 28, 2018 15:40:43 GMT -8
It isn't just that Oregon St beat 2 top ten teams, but they didn't lose to any unranked teams which many of the other teams in the top 16 have done. One of them even lost to two unranked teams. The RPI is over rated in respect to really evaluating the strength of schedule. Emphasis should be placed on the number of teams you play that have a realistic chance of beating you. For a top twenty team beating a team rated in the 100 area is no different than beating a team rated in one around 200. Neither has a realistic chance to beat you, but the 200 team will lower your RPI considerably more. What is the difference between beating a higher rated cupcake from a lower rated one.
What might be more realistic is to remove any team that is more than a certain amount of points lower than you from the ratings except if they beat you. Playing one or two really low RPI teams will lower your RPI lower than your actual strength of schedule should indicate. Thus a team could schedule simi- higher rated cup cakes and have a higher rated RPI than a team that actually played a tougher schedule with a few really low rated teams. The RPI sometimes becomes so ridiculous that you can raise it by being steamrolled by very high rated team and have it lowered by blowing out a lower rated team.
Oregon St. hurt their RPI by playing two many really weak teams in the preseason. They should have picked higher rated cup cakes whom they still could have easily beaten.
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Post by green85 on Feb 28, 2018 16:38:39 GMT -8
It isn't just that Oregon St beat 2 top ten teams, but they didn't lose to any unranked teams which many of the other teams in the top 16 have done. One of them even lost to two unranked teams. The RPI is over rated in respect to really evaluating the strength of schedule. Emphasis should be placed on the number of teams you play that have a realistic chance of beating you. For a top twenty team beating a team rated in the 100 area is no different than beating a team rated in one around 200. Neither has a realistic chance to beat you, but the 200 team will lower your RPI considerably more. What is the difference between beating a higher rated cupcake from a lower rated one. What might be more realistic is to remove any team that is more than a certain amount of points lower than you from the ratings except if they beat you. Playing one or two really low RPI teams will lower your RPI lower than your actual strength of schedule should indicate. Thus a team could schedule simi- higher rated cup cakes and have a higher rated RPI than a team that actually played a tougher schedule with a few really low rated teams. The RPI sometimes becomes so ridiculous that you can raise it by being steamrolled by very high rated team and have it lowered by blowing out a lower rated team. Oregon St. hurt their RPI by playing two many really weak teams in the preseason. They should have picked higher rated cup cakes whom they still could have easily beaten. Part of the challenge with SOS and RPI is that the numbers change as the season goes along. You schedule a team that has had 5 years straight of being 150 or better - then they tank and are a 250 team by the end of the season in which you play. Your RPI and SOS get adjusted based upon the team you play and how they perform in that season. So even a "good cupcake" from the previous 4 seasons could be a terrible cup cake when you play them. |
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