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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 25, 2018 11:09:31 GMT -8
The original accusations; of OSU fans calling USC players “nig***s” and “black bit***s” don’t bother you? They bother me. They need to be addressed. PUBLICLY as OSU is a public institution. And the sooner the better. The clock is ticking. Again you "circle" the content of other posts... no one said it didn't bother them. In fact everyone here says it bothers them a LOT. They obviously were not allegations if the guy(s) were caught. Hence, it is being dealt with... and "NO" the repercussions do not have to be made public, just as most discipline is not unless it results in a criminal arrest. The OSU community is not exempt from the cretins of society... “It is being dealt with” And how do we know that? Because some guy posting anonymously by the alias of Baseball1111 says so? Sorry, not good enough. |
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Post by zeroposter on Feb 25, 2018 11:16:37 GMT -8
For one dead certain thing, Ed Ray would not just let it pass.
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 25, 2018 11:28:29 GMT -8
Again you "circle" the content of other posts... no one said it didn't bother them. In fact everyone here says it bothers them a LOT. They obviously were not allegations if the guy(s) were caught. Hence, it is being dealt with... and "NO" the repercussions do not have to be made public, just as most discipline is not unless it results in a criminal arrest. The OSU community is not exempt from the cretins of society... “It is being dealt with” And how do we know that? Because some guy posting anonymously by the alias of Baseball1111 says so? Sorry, not good enough. Actually I did not say so... read the thread. But, almost no one on here knows anything about it, so the incredulous stances are overblown and past due. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 25, 2018 11:50:45 GMT -8
“It is being dealt with” And how do we know that? Because some guy posting anonymously by the alias of Baseball1111 says so? Sorry, not good enough. Actually I did not say so... read the thread. But, almost no one on here knows anything about it, so the incredulous stances are overblown and past due. I can read just fine, thank you. |
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Post by skyrider on Feb 25, 2018 12:07:01 GMT -8
There are plenty of reasons to just let it rest. If it's a student, there are disciplinary protocols that must be followed. No matter who it is, there is a good argument that any public flogging just puts it in ESPN's news rotation one more time, to the embarrassment of the school. All of us fans would love to know the details, but, as a certain Secretary of State once said, "What difference – at this point, what difference does it make?" And do you really expect an apology from the perpetrator? Let me get this clear. That is your recommended resolution to this - just let it rest? Don’t say anything? Let it blow over? Hush it up? If the allegations are true I want to know what OSU intends to do to prevent it from happening again. And I sure as hell want to know that that lowlife individual will not be at any OSU events I plan on attending. “Just letting it rest” would be the absolute WORST possible course of action. I expect an an apology if the guy has a conscience and is ashamed of what he did. I expect an apology, a public one, if he ever wants to go to OSU events sometime before he dies. If it’s a student, a public apology is an absolute prerequisite for readmittance to the university. Spare me any “privacy” arguments. The alleged incident took place at a highly public event in front of thousands in attendance and broadcast to millions. |
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Post by ostate on Feb 25, 2018 12:25:39 GMT -8
Let me get this clear. That is your recommended resolution to this - just let it rest? Don’t say anything? Let it blow over? Hush it up? If the allegations are true I want to know what OSU intends to do to prevent it from happening again. And I sure as hell want to know that that lowlife individual will not be at any OSU events I plan on attending. “Just letting it rest” would be the absolute WORST possible course of action. I expect an an apology if the guy has a conscience and is ashamed of what he did. I expect an apology, a public one, if he ever wants to go to OSU events sometime before he dies. If it’s a student, a public apology is an absolute prerequisite for readmittance to the university. Spare me any “privacy” arguments. The alleged incident took place at a highly public event in front of thousands in attendance and broadcast to millions. Why does everyone assume (if this really happened), that the comments were made by a white person? |
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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 25, 2018 12:31:14 GMT -8
Why does everyone assume (if this really happened), that the comments were made by a white person? Is that what “everyone” is assuming? btw, why did you respond to an empty post? |
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Post by spudbeaver on Feb 25, 2018 12:35:28 GMT -8
Let me get this clear. That is your recommended resolution to this - just let it rest? Don’t say anything? Let it blow over? Hush it up? If the allegations are true I want to know what OSU intends to do to prevent it from happening again. And I sure as hell want to know that that lowlife individual will not be at any OSU events I plan on attending. “Just letting it rest” would be the absolute WORST possible course of action. I expect an an apology if the guy has a conscience and is ashamed of what he did. I expect an apology, a public one, if he ever wants to go to OSU events sometime before he dies. If it’s a student, a public apology is an absolute prerequisite for readmittance to the university. Spare me any “privacy” arguments. The alleged incident took place at a highly public event in front of thousands in attendance and broadcast to millions. Millions? I love the women's team too, but let’s not get carried away (more). |
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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 25, 2018 12:40:09 GMT -8
Millions? I love the women's team too, but let’s not get carried away (more). Fair point. OK Hundreds of thousands |
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Post by spudbeaver on Feb 25, 2018 12:44:22 GMT -8
Millions? I love the women's team too, but let’s not get carried away (more). Fair point. OK Hundreds of thousands Oops! Should have responded to you. Seems Skyrider still hasn’t mastered the board functions. Makes me curious though, what the actual viewership of a game like that was. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 25, 2018 13:03:24 GMT -8
There is no investigation. I'm told that they caught the a*****e at the scene of the crime. Apparently it took a little time for that information to get to Minyon Moore and the OSU administration. I would assume that Minyon took down her tweet after being told that justice was being served. There was some sort of " verbal confrontation," LONG AFTER the game was over (when Simon came BACK UP from the locker room, onto the court). That's a FACT.Anything ELSE is conjecture (as to who said what ... when .. and if anyone ELSE in the vicinity HEARD something in particular themselves). Someone being "identified" doesn't, by itself, bring ANY validity to the original accusations (in the Moore tweets). That's funny cuz other "facts" have it happening during the game, on the way to the locker room... as the essence of the timing and tweet doesn't make much sense as LONG after the gym is basically empty. So... really... are there any known "facts"  |
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Post by willtalk on Feb 25, 2018 19:48:20 GMT -8
There is no investigation. I'm told that they caught the a*****e at the scene of the crime. Apparently it took a little time for that information to get to Minyon Moore and the OSU administration. I would assume that Minyon took down her tweet after being told that justice was being served. That's how news works in the age of Twitter. It probably took a half-hour to sort it all out, but by then it's story 1 on ESPNW. Some of you people would make very bad detectives. You would be defective detectives. Entirely too many assumptions based on predetermined suppositions. They may have INDENTIFIED an individual that Simon had a verbal exchange with when she returned to the court from the locker room. This would seem obviously plausible since it was told that Simon had to be restrained and taken back to the locker room by teammates when this part of the incident happened. Thus there would be substantiative witnesses to this. If that is so what can really be validated from this. To assess this we have to put the sequence into prospective via backtracking. Do we really know what was said during this latter exchange?. If so there would be witnesses to this. We do know that something impelled Simon to return to the court from the locker room so if the racial slurs did happen and were that reason they would have happened before she initially went to the locker room. And her coming back out was in response to what was alleged to have happened earlier. These two incidents were separated from each other by time. The allegations that Moore tweeted about seem more likely to have been in respect to what was alleged to have occurred during the first incident since she specified fans not fan. Does anyone based on the later confrontation even know what transpired during the first one. That is based solely on Simon's perspective. There were also things supposedly said by the teammates that brought her back to the locker room that discounted the racial aspect of the incidents. Just too many If's and other unknowns to come to any conclusion that is anything but speculation. It is just as likely that Moore removed her tweet when other teammates advised her that the incident might not have happened as Simon first perceived it. The motivation to remove might have been to protect Simon and not Oregon St. Considering the time line that also seems very likely and as probable as any of the other proposed scenarios. It might make sense to quit speculating on something no one really knows enough about. To attempt to fill in unknowns with un-objective speculation brings into question the intent and agenda's of the individuals involved. I am done commenting on this issue. I did not come to this site to get involved in discussions about anything other than basketball. beaverfever- My apologies- had I read your previous post where you deal with this issue, I wouldn't have even bothered to respond with mine. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Feb 25, 2018 23:57:26 GMT -8
There is no investigation. I'm told that they caught the a*****e at the scene of the crime. Apparently it took a little time for that information to get to Minyon Moore and the OSU administration. I would assume that Minyon took down her tweet after being told that justice was being served. That's how news works in the age of Twitter. It probably took a half-hour to sort it all out, but by then it's story 1 on ESPNW. Some of you people would make very bad detectives. You would be defective detectives. Entirely too many assumptions based on predetermined suppositions. They may have INDENTIFIED an individual that Simon had a verbal exchange with when she returned to the court from the locker room. This would seem obviously plausible since it was told that Simon had to be restrained and taken back to the locker room by teammates when this part of the incident happened. Thus there would be substantiative witnesses to this. If that is so what can really be validated from this. To assess this we have to put the sequence into prospective via backtracking. Do we really know what was said during this latter exchange?. If so there would be witnesses to this. We do know that something impelled Simon to return to the court from the locker room so if the racial slurs did happen and were that reason they would have happened before she initially went to the locker room. And her coming back out was in response to what was alleged to have happened earlier. These two incidents were separated from each other by time. The allegations that Moore tweeted about seem more likely to have been in respect to what was alleged to have occurred during the first incident since she specified fans not fan. Does anyone based on the later confrontation even know what transpired during the first one. That is based solely on Simon's perspective. There were also things supposedly said by the teammates that brought her back to the locker room that discounted the racial aspect of the incidents. Just too many If's and other unknowns to come to any conclusion that is anything but speculation. It is just as likely that Moore removed her tweet when other teammates advised her that the incident might not have happened as Simon first perceived it. The motivation to remove might have been to protect Simon and not Oregon St. Considering the time line that also seems very likely and as probable as any of the other proposed scenarios. It might make sense to quit speculating on something no one really knows enough about. To attempt to fill in unknowns with un-objective speculation brings into question the intent and agenda's of the individuals involved. I am done commenting on this issue. I did not come to this site to get involved in discussions about anything other than basketball. beaverfever- My apologies- had I read your previous post where you deal with this issue, I wouldn't have even bothered to respond with mine. Yet your post is the longest and just as speculative. Hmmmmm... good idea stick to hoops. |
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Post by korculabeav on Feb 26, 2018 16:40:42 GMT -8
Go read the thread about the statement made by Scott Barnes today over the incident and consider this thread dead. You guys are the worst at beating a dead horse🙄
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