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Post by beavadelic on Jan 21, 2018 19:57:43 GMT -8
That offer was also extended before she moved here. Let’s just say that style of play or ability wasn’t the fit issue, and sometimes new things surface over time - all whispering, innuendo and gossip notwithstanding. I think Scott and his staff do due diligence before offering scholarships. And if you can’t say what the supposed “things” are you should just refrain from casting aspersions. Its very unfair to Mayhue (if you care about such things) and it doesn’t make you look very good either. You’re right...not my place to insinuate. The truth is, it doesn’t matter what our opinion is or even what we know. You seem a little touchy about this one. People say things like “she may not have fit here” all the time when I schollie offer is pulled or an athlete backs out and goes elsewhere, and I haven’t seen you jump on it like this. Not trying to offend you or anyone else. I would be betraying sources that are up close and personal to her and disparaging her to say more, and I have no intention of doing either. If you can’t handle that then I would suggest that it’s not me that looks bad. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 21, 2018 20:18:56 GMT -8
I think Scott and his staff do due diligence before offering scholarships. And if you can’t say what the supposed “things” are you should just refrain from casting aspersions. Its very unfair to Mayhue (if you care about such things) and it doesn’t make you look very good either. You’re right...not my place to insinuate. The truth is, it doesn’t matter what our opinion is or even what we know. You seem a little touchy about this one. People say things like “she may not have fit here” all the time when I schollie offer is pulled or an athlete backs out and goes elsewhere, and I haven’t seen you jump on it like this. Not trying to offend you or anyone else. I would be betraying sources that are up close and personal to her and disparaging her to say more, and I have no intention of doing either. If you can’t handle that then I would suggest that it’s not me that looks bad. So you come on this public forum and proclaim that you have secret disparaging "inside information" on a recruit. Information that you think may have contributed in part to her scholarship being pulled. Well aren't you f-ing special? Again, I'm not criticizing Rueck or his decision. He doesn't need to give the public a reason and the public isn't entitled to one. But you think floating those rumors out to the general public is fair to the high school student in question? I think that stinks, personally. I guess I'm just old fashioned. |
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Post by beavadelic on Jan 21, 2018 20:21:42 GMT -8
You’re right...not my place to insinuate. The truth is, it doesn’t matter what our opinion is or even what we know. You seem a little touchy about this one. People say things like “she may not have fit here” all the time when I schollie offer is pulled or an athlete backs out and goes elsewhere, and I haven’t seen you jump on it like this. Not trying to offend you or anyone else. I would be betraying sources that are up close and personal to her and disparaging her to say more, and I have no intention of doing either. If you can’t handle that then I would suggest that it’s not me that looks bad. So you come on this public forum and proclaim that you have disparaging "inside information" on a recruit. Information that you think may have contributed in part to her scholarship being pulled. Well aren't you f-ing special? Again, I'm not criticizing Rueck or his decision. He doesn't need to give the public a reason and the public isn't entitled to one. But you think floating those rumors out to the general public is fair to the high school student in question? I think that stinks, personally. I guess I'm just old fashioned. What “rumors”, oh sanctimonious one? |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 21, 2018 20:23:18 GMT -8
So you come on this public forum and proclaim that you have disparaging "inside information" on a recruit. Information that you think may have contributed in part to her scholarship being pulled. Well aren't you f-ing special? Again, I'm not criticizing Rueck or his decision. He doesn't need to give the public a reason and the public isn't entitled to one. But you think floating those rumors out to the general public is fair to the high school student in question? I think that stinks, personally. I guess I'm just old fashioned. What “rumors”, oh sanctimonious one? " would be betraying sources that are up close and personal to her and disparaging her to say more" "Disparaging" was your term, not mine. You believe you posess "disparaging" personal information about a high school athlete and you think it somehow makes you look good that you tell everyone because you won't specify what it actually is. I think that is messed up. And shows zero concern for the high school student in question. Only concern for yourself and for making sure that everyone on the internet knows how "connected" you are to supposed insider information. I'm not impressed. At all. |
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Post by beavadelic on Jan 21, 2018 20:42:59 GMT -8
What “rumors”, oh sanctimonious one? " would be betraying sources that are up close and personal to her and disparaging her to say more" "Disparaging" was your term, not mine. You think you are sitting "disparaging" personal information about a high school athlete and you think it somehow makes you look good that you tell everyone because you won't say what it actually is. I think that is messed up. And shows zero concern for the high school student in question. Only concern for yourself and for making sure that everyone on the internet knows how "connected" you are to supposed insider information. I'm not impressed. At all. And my goal is to impress YOU...not. I am however, done with the banter with you. I do care about what reasonable people think of me. My original comment had nothing to do with wanting to impress anyone with my connections. There is nobody on these boards regularly who are connected directly to recruiting information. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 21, 2018 20:49:57 GMT -8
" would be betraying sources that are up close and personal to her and disparaging her to say more" "Disparaging" was your term, not mine. You think you are sitting "disparaging" personal information about a high school athlete and you think it somehow makes you look good that you tell everyone because you won't say what it actually is. I think that is messed up. And shows zero concern for the high school student in question. Only concern for yourself and for making sure that everyone on the internet knows how "connected" you are to supposed insider information. I'm not impressed. At all. And my goal is to impress YOU...not. I am however, done with the banter with you. I do care about what reasonable people think of me. My original comment had nothing to do with wanting to impress anyone with my connections. There is nobody on these boards regularly who are connected directly to recruiting information. Katie Mayheu is a very talented high school student and basketball player who wanted to play at OSU. That is not going to happen but she has another D1 offer with Montana. I wish her nothing but the best. |
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Post by beavadelic on Jan 22, 2018 12:14:07 GMT -8
And my goal is to impress YOU...not. I am however, done with the banter with you. I do care about what reasonable people think of me. My original comment had nothing to do with wanting to impress anyone with my connections. There is nobody on these boards regularly who are connected directly to recruiting information. Katie Mayheu is a very talented high school student and basketball player who wanted to play at OSU. That is not going to happen but she has another D1 offer with Montana. I wish her nothing but the best. Me too. Squonk, I’ve been rereading my posts on this thread, and I wish that I would have read further before my initial response to Lebaneaver’s concern as to why a talented local girl who appeared to be headed to OSU was no longer going. All that needed to be said was that we will have an abundance of talented women on the perimeter returning. I agree that a couple of statements that I made just left people to speculate about bad things relating to Katie’s character. I have no desire to put her down. I’m a huge advocate for youth in general, and specifically would never want to do damage to their reputation with my words...or unspoken innuendo. I can also see how you may feel that I’m trying to impress with my connections. Between my own connections to OSU and in the athletic landscape in the Willamette Valley over the last 40 years, my kids direct connections with OSU athletics the past dozen and the kind of work I do, I just have a lot contacts close to the school I love. I mean to point to more than a passing speculative - comment because sometimes I am in communication with people close to situations, not to sound like a name-dropper. Having said that...I kind of sound like a name-dropper! I don’t like it when others appear to do that all the time, and I don’t want to be like that either. I like to inform. Nobody likes to be called out on things, and I still may not agree with everything you said, but I appreciate when people clean my windshield. Sometimes I need another set of eyes to help me see the whole picture. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 22, 2018 12:57:32 GMT -8
Katie Mayheu is a very talented high school student and basketball player who wanted to play at OSU. That is not going to happen but she has another D1 offer with Montana. I wish her nothing but the best. Me too. Squonk, I’ve been rereading my posts on this thread, and I wish that I would have read further before my initial response to Lebaneaver’s concern as to why a talented local girl who appeared to be headed to OSU was no longer going. All that needed to be said was that we will have an abundance of talented women on the perimeter returning. I agree that a couple of statements that I made just left people to speculate about bad things relating to Katie’s character. I have no desire to put her down. I’m a huge advocate for youth in general, and specifically would never want to do damage to their reputation with my words...or unspoken innuendo. I can also see how you may feel that I’m trying to impress with my connections. Between my own connections to OSU and in the athletic landscape in the Willamette Valley over the last 40 years, my kids direct connections with OSU athletics the past dozen and the kind of work I do, I just have a lot contacts close to the school I love. I mean to point to more than a passing speculative - comment because sometimes I am in communication with people close to situations, not to sound like a name-dropper. Having said that...I kind of sound like a name-dropper! I don’t like it when others appear to do that all the time, and I don’t want to be like that either. I like to inform. Nobody likes to be called out on things, and I still may not agree with everything you said, but I appreciate when people clean my windshield. Sometimes I need another set of eyes to help me see the whole picture. I know some of my posts were strongly worded. Maybe too strongly. I just wanted to be fair to a young girl who wanted to play basketball at OSU. That’s the only reason we’re even talking about her. Thanks for the thoughtful response. I always wonder after hitting send on a pointed message whether there might have been a better way for me to make my point. |
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Post by beavadelic on Jan 22, 2018 13:19:35 GMT -8
Me too. Squonk, I’ve been rereading my posts on this thread, and I wish that I would have read further before my initial response to Lebaneaver’s concern as to why a talented local girl who appeared to be headed to OSU was no longer going. All that needed to be said was that we will have an abundance of talented women on the perimeter returning. I agree that a couple of statements that I made just left people to speculate about bad things relating to Katie’s character. I have no desire to put her down. I’m a huge advocate for youth in general, and specifically would never want to do damage to their reputation with my words...or unspoken innuendo. I can also see how you may feel that I’m trying to impress with my connections. Between my own connections to OSU and in the athletic landscape in the Willamette Valley over the last 40 years, my kids direct connections with OSU athletics the past dozen and the kind of work I do, I just have a lot contacts close to the school I love. I mean to point to more than a passing speculative - comment because sometimes I am in communication with people close to situations, not to sound like a name-dropper. Having said that...I kind of sound like a name-dropper! I don’t like it when others appear to do that all the time, and I don’t want to be like that either. I like to inform. Nobody likes to be called out on things, and I still may not agree with everything you said, but I appreciate when people clean my windshield. Sometimes I need another set of eyes to help me see the whole picture. I know some of my posts were strongly worded. Maybe too strongly. I just wanted to be fair to a young girl who wanted to play basketball at OSU. That’s the only reason we’re even talking about her. Thanks for the thoughtful response. I always wonder after hitting send on a pointed message whether there might have been a better way for me to make my point. Thanks...and it’s never a bad thing, IMO, to stand up for these kids, even when they bring on criticism with their own attitudes and actions (which Katie did not do in any way in this case). Sometimes, we seem to forget that we’re talking about people, not commodities. |
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Post by ochobeavo on Jan 22, 2018 13:46:39 GMT -8
Any kid that can score 40 plus in a 5a game with many other high scoring games is good enough to play at OSU. She’s a natural scorer. Did OSU lose interest in her, or the other way around? For what it's worth, she's on an awful team. I mean.. probably winless without her type of bad. Think they only have 1 other senior and 1 junior and Mayhue is also the tallest player out there. So on the one hand - she is taking all the shots. On the other hand, everyone in the gym knows she's taking all the shots and she's still putting up huge numbers. She had 45 vs CV. 43 against Roseburg. 39 of their 48 against Lebanon. Anyhow, I wish her luck at Montana. |
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Post by lebaneaver on Jan 22, 2018 15:00:00 GMT -8
I wish her luck too. I was only trying to convey any lady that has put up those numbers at that level CAN DEFINITELY play in the PAC. I’m sorry she won’t be a Beav.
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Post by blackbug on Jan 23, 2018 14:23:39 GMT -8
I know some of my posts were strongly worded. Maybe too strongly. I just wanted to be fair to a young girl who wanted to play basketball at OSU. That’s the only reason we’re even talking about her. Thanks for the thoughtful response. I always wonder after hitting send on a pointed message whether there might have been a better way for me to make my point. Thanks...and it’s never a bad thing, IMO, to stand up for these kids, even when they bring on criticism with their own attitudes and actions (which Katie did not do in any way in this case). Sometimes, we seem to forget that we’re talking about people, not commodities. I appreciated the information and did not feel that you were trying to disparage Mayhue. There is information that comes to surface on a lot of players that appears to make them less appealing to Coach Rueck. There have been tidbits of information of him passing on players in the past after initially recruiting them. This information is interesting and useful to those trying to follow the situation, but it is also information that is very tricky to relay without speaking poorly of players. Sometimes it is simple as the player does not play team ball the way Coach Rueck would like. Often these reasons do not speak poorly of the players on a whole, but that the same core values are not there. I am not speaking of any player in particular. i appreciate the way you attempted to provide insight that you received while trying not to tarnish a player's image. The only unfortunate part is that sometimes imagination is actually worse than real life. |
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Post by Werebeaver on Jan 23, 2018 15:17:46 GMT -8
Thanks...and it’s never a bad thing, IMO, to stand up for these kids, even when they bring on criticism with their own attitudes and actions (which Katie did not do in any way in this case). Sometimes, we seem to forget that we’re talking about people, not commodities. I appreciated the information and did not feel that you were trying to disparage Mayhue. There is information that comes to surface on a lot of players that appears to make them less appealing to Coach Rueck. There have been tidbits of information of him passing on players in the past after initially recruiting them. This information is interesting and useful to those trying to follow the situation, but it is also information that is very tricky to relay without speaking poorly of players. Sometimes it is simple as the player does not play team ball the way Coach Rueck would like. Often these reasons do not speak poorly of the players on a whole, but that the same core values are not there. I am not speaking of any player in particular. i appreciate the way you attempted to provide insight that you received while trying not to tarnish a player's image. The only unfortunate part is that sometimes imagination is actually worse than real life. Enquiring minds want to know  |
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Jan 24, 2018 13:03:08 GMT -8
I wish her luck too. I was only trying to convey any lady that has put up those numbers at that level CAN DEFINITELY play in the PAC. I’m sorry she won’t be a Beav. If that's true, it's interesting that no other Pac-12 team offered her when we pulled ours. I still would have taken her, even with a logjam at guard. She could redshirt, and you can never have too many good players. But Rueck likes to work with a short roster (12 or 11), so that's his choice. |
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Post by bennyskid on Jan 24, 2018 13:21:10 GMT -8
It is quite likely that all the other Pac coaches assumed that Katie was completely locked in at OSU and therefore never really scouted her. With so few schollies available, coaches don't like to take a lot of chances (unless the girl is 6'5"+). Just because you are a Pac-quality talent doesn't mean that you will get on a Pac roster.
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