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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 30, 2017 13:57:47 GMT -8
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Post by NativeBeav on Dec 30, 2017 16:18:57 GMT -8
I agree - amazing with all of the angst out of Alabama, not a word about Neil - you can go look it up. Disgusting. Will never be held to account, due to this state's politics. What Neil DID, not just an accusation was far worse!
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 31, 2017 7:55:13 GMT -8
I agree - amazing with all of the angst out of Alabama, not a word about Neil - you can go look it up. Disgusting. Will never be held to account, due to this state's politics. What Neil DID, not just an accusation was far worse! He no longer lives in Oregon. Statue of limitations expired long before his crimes were exposed. Nothing the state can do to him. His portrait was taken down in Salem. He couldn’t be elected dog catcher in this State. Btw Moore still hasn’t conceded and is blaming everyone but himself for his problems.
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Post by NativeBeav on Dec 31, 2017 14:43:25 GMT -8
I agree - amazing with all of the angst out of Alabama, not a word about Neil - you can go look it up. Disgusting. Will never be held to account, due to this state's politics. What Neil DID, not just an accusation was far worse! He no longer lives in Oregon. Statue of limitations expired long before his crimes were exposed. Nothing the state can do to him. His portrait was taken down in Salem. He couldn’t be elected dog catcher in this State. Btw Moore still hasn’t conceded and is blaming everyone but himself for his problems. And I think 40 years for RM, who was not accused of anything that was not consensual, clothing still on, with no proof, even comes close to NG. I would agree that much of the mess and results are on RM, for a variety of reasons I won't go into. I also agree that not conceding some time soon will not help him or the party (I could care less about the party) in the long run. Where I think he may have a point, are the reports of ballot box stuffing in some precincts in AL. If there is a mechanism (and there should be) to see how many, if any people voted that were not eligible to vote, I can understand waiting until that has been explored before conceding. BUT, it is a hard road, and you need to have, IMHO, some pretty solid evidence of large scale voter fraud before you go down that path. Does he have that? I have no idea. I have heard reports - but you know how that one goes. For all of the hand wringing regarding RM not conceding, I think we have a certain individual (actually two) that continued to complain for years after the vote was counted that they were cheated, even though they had little or no hard evidence of said fraud (or they just don't like the electoral college, which is the law). So, would it be acceptable to you if RM conceded, then continued to dig and complain that he was robbed? Or, would you rather he dig now, verify the info, then concede? Just curious.
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 31, 2017 14:57:46 GMT -8
He no longer lives in Oregon. Statue of limitations expired long before his crimes were exposed. Nothing the state can do to him. His portrait was taken down in Salem. He couldn’t be elected dog catcher in this State. Btw Moore still hasn’t conceded and is blaming everyone but himself for his problems. And I think 40 years for RM, who was not accused of anything that was not consensual, clothing still on, with no proof, even comes close to NG. I would agree that much of the mess and results are on RM, for a variety of reasons I won't go into. I also agree that not conceding some time soon will not help him or the party (I could care less about the party) in the long run. Where I think he may have a point, are the reports of ballot box stuffing in some precincts in AL. If there is a mechanism (and there should be) to see how many, if any people voted that were not eligible to vote, I can understand waiting until that has been explored before conceding. BUT, it is a hard road, and you need to have, IMHO, some pretty solid evidence of large scale voter fraud before you go down that path. Does he have that? I have no idea. I have heard reports - but you know how that one goes. For all of the hand wringing regarding RM not conceding, I think we have a certain individual (actually two) that continued to complain for years after the vote was counted that they were cheated, even though they had little or no hard evidence of said fraud (or they just don't like the electoral college, which is the law). So, would it be acceptable to you if RM conceded, then continued to dig and complain that he was robbed? Or, would you rather he dig now, verify the info, then concede? Just curious. I couldn't care less.
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