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Dec 12, 2017 9:38:29 GMT -8
Post by terrylinus on Dec 12, 2017 9:38:29 GMT -8
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Dec 12, 2017 9:40:59 GMT -8
Post by ee1990 on Dec 12, 2017 9:40:59 GMT -8
Petras fan here. Dukart is the feel good but his accuracy is a concern. You don't often see a guy go from mid 50's completion % in HS to a great college QB.
I'm a bit surprised there isn't more excitement around Petras(I get it there's not much around the whole program). That arm is INSANE. You cannot teach that. The dude can make all the NFL throws already.
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Dec 12, 2017 9:46:44 GMT -8
Post by beaverinohio on Dec 12, 2017 9:46:44 GMT -8
Was excited to read that Petras will enroll early. Any word on any other recruits that are planning to enroll early?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2017 10:06:40 GMT -8
Are you kidding me? Petras had 50 TD's and just 2 interceptions? Did any QB in the country have better stats than that? Unbelievable numbers.
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Post by ochobeavo on Dec 12, 2017 10:14:31 GMT -8
Petras fan here. Dukart is the feel good but his accuracy is a concern. You don't often see a guy go from mid 50's completion % in HS to a great college QB. I'm a bit surprised there isn't more excitement around Petras(I get it there's not much around the whole program). That arm is INSANE. You cannot teach that. The dude can make all the NFL throws already. I think we're all a little cautious when it comes to getting excited about recruits at the moment (See: Evans, Craig. Wallace, Christian. Garcia, Isaac. Thompson, Shurod.. cool.. making my right eye twitch just typing this) But you're right- ridiculous numbers, good size, I should be way more excited.
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Dec 12, 2017 10:38:39 GMT -8
Post by vhalum92 on Dec 12, 2017 10:38:39 GMT -8
Put me in the excited camp. How great will it be when one of these young freshman step on to the field at a visiting stadium and set a new visiting team record for passing... ala Coach Smith at UW back in the day? Boom, there is my prediction for 2018 Maybe we are also nervous that CGA struggled to evaluate QB talent (being kind) and these kids were recruits under his group as well... I for one am ecstatic they have reinforced there commitments and are signing in the early period. Isn't Petras a 4 star now? Not that it matters but I thought when he had offers from some other schools they bumped him up. Like the article says.... gotta have a good QB to build around. Now lets lock down some lineman. Go Beavs!
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Dec 12, 2017 11:08:10 GMT -8
Post by kersting13 on Dec 12, 2017 11:08:10 GMT -8
Petras fan here. Dukart is the feel good but his accuracy is a concern. You don't often see a guy go from mid 50's completion % in HS to a great college QB. I'm a bit surprised there isn't more excitement around Petras(I get it there's not much around the whole program). That arm is INSANE. You cannot teach that. The dude can make all the NFL throws already. I think we're all a little cautious when it comes to getting excited about recruits at the moment (See: Evans, Craig. Wallace, Christian. Garcia, Isaac. Thompson, Shurod.. cool.. making my right eye twitch just typing this) But you're right- ridiculous numbers, good size, I should be way more excited. To be fair, all of the guys you just listed there (with the possible exception of Wallace) had problems gaining admittance to Oregon State. Petras appears to be enrolling early, so any cautiousness is coming from a completely different standpoint.
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Dec 12, 2017 11:15:45 GMT -8
Post by ochobeavo on Dec 12, 2017 11:15:45 GMT -8
I think we're all a little cautious when it comes to getting excited about recruits at the moment (See: Evans, Craig. Wallace, Christian. Garcia, Isaac. Thompson, Shurod.. cool.. making my right eye twitch just typing this) But you're right- ridiculous numbers, good size, I should be way more excited. To be fair, all of the guys you just listed there (with the possible exception of Wallace) had problems gaining admittance to Oregon State. Petras appears to be enrolling early, so any cautiousness is coming from a completely different standpoint. Oh I don't disagree in the slightest, I'm just saying that there are plenty of people who feel a little deflated when it comes to recruiting anymore and take a "let's wait and see if they actually set foot on campus" approach because of those guys I listed. I agree, assuming he's still rock solid (a few conflicting reports there w/Iowa visit) and enrolls early, we should be pretty dang excited!
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Dec 12, 2017 11:19:26 GMT -8
Post by beaverinohio on Dec 12, 2017 11:19:26 GMT -8
Put me in the excited camp. How great will it be when one of these young freshman step on to the field at a visiting stadium and set a new visiting team record for passing... ala Coach Smith at UW back in the day? Boom, there is my prediction for 2018 Maybe we are also nervous that CGA struggled to evaluate QB talent (being kind) and these kids were recruits under his group as well... I for one am ecstatic they have reinforced there commitments and are signing in the early period. Isn't Petras a 4 star now? Not that it matters but I thought when he had offers from some other schools they bumped him up. Like the article says.... gotta have a good QB to build around. Now lets lock down some lineman. Go Beavs! For all the "star lovers," this is why one shouldn't read too much into them. A lot of these services rely on offer lists to rate recruits (if not initially certainly later on). Illini this year had a safety who was a low 3 star recruit and had only 8 other offers (none from a Power Conference). ESPN just named him to its Freshman All-America Team. Teams like the Beavs have to rely on strong player evaluation from its coaches to put forth a good team. If we have the right coaches, I'm not too worried about stars of rankings. They'll find the right guys for the system they want to run and coach them up. And this wasn't meant as any kind of indictment of Petras (who I'm excited about) or vhalum92.
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Post by nabeav on Dec 12, 2017 11:54:11 GMT -8
The blurb in there about there being some talk with Andersen about moving Dukart to defense made me smile in the way that I smile when I remember something completely horrifying from my youth, like the time I told a girl I didn't want to date her anymore, but we could still hook up if she wanted.
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Dec 12, 2017 12:01:37 GMT -8
Post by vhalum92 on Dec 12, 2017 12:01:37 GMT -8
Put me in the excited camp. How great will it be when one of these young freshman step on to the field at a visiting stadium and set a new visiting team record for passing... ala Coach Smith at UW back in the day? Boom, there is my prediction for 2018 Maybe we are also nervous that CGA struggled to evaluate QB talent (being kind) and these kids were recruits under his group as well... I for one am ecstatic they have reinforced there commitments and are signing in the early period. Isn't Petras a 4 star now? Not that it matters but I thought when he had offers from some other schools they bumped him up. Like the article says.... gotta have a good QB to build around. Now lets lock down some lineman. Go Beavs! For all the "star lovers," this is why one shouldn't read too much into them. A lot of these services rely on offer lists to rate recruits (if not initially certainly later on). Illini this year had a safety who was a low 3 star recruit and had only 8 other offers (none from a Power Conference). ESPN just named him to its Freshman All-America Team. Teams like the Beavs have to rely on strong player evaluation from its coaches to put forth a good team. If we have the right coaches, I'm not too worried about stars of rankings. They'll find the right guys for the system they want to run and coach them up. And this wasn't meant as any kind of indictment of Petras (who I'm excited about) or vhalum92. I do agree about the problems with the star system, and I agree it is a very flawed system. But it is also the system they use to rank our class.... so it is important to understand it. I do believe Petras is a 4 star, that is all. I completely agree with your observation on how we need to recruit, but until they come up with a better way of ranking recruiting classes we need credit for the stars our kids have been identified with.... however screwed up the process might be to get there.
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Dec 12, 2017 12:32:13 GMT -8
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Post by beavadelic on Dec 12, 2017 12:32:13 GMT -8
Petras fan here. Dukart is the feel good but his accuracy is a concern. You don't often see a guy go from mid 50's completion % in HS to a great college QB. I'm a bit surprised there isn't more excitement around Petras(I get it there's not much around the whole program). That arm is INSANE. You cannot teach that. The dude can make all the NFL throws already. I admit that I didn’t see LO play except in the semis, but I’ve never seen so many balls dropped on such a good team. Jake practically had to run the ball out and hand it to his receivers. Don’t know if that was an aberration - or maybe he throws a ball that is tougher to track? He threw some ridiculous strikes in that game though. You could tell he is a baseball player with the snap of the wrist on those ropes he threw.
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Dec 12, 2017 12:32:27 GMT -8
Post by beaverinohio on Dec 12, 2017 12:32:27 GMT -8
Vhalum92 -- I think we're on the same page and I realized your comment was about Petras being good, which is why I mentioned in my post my comments weren't aimed at you. I just think there is way too much worry about how many stars recruits have. Sure we'd all love the Beavers to pull in a class full of 4 and 5 star recruits, but it ain't happening anytime soon if at all. So much is made of a coach being a good recruiter, but just as important is being able to evaluate players. To get to the promised land, Beaver coaches have to be able to identify players that fit the system and have talent -- no matter what the star rankings say. Truth is that if a player has 5-10 or more offers from power conferences than the chances of them picking OS go way down. Hopefully the new staff can find those who "deserve to be high 3* and 4*" but haven't been ranked as such and get them wrapped up.
But back to the thread subject. Even I can tell looking at clips that Petras has the size and the arm strength needed to be a good QB. And I'm excited to see he has reaffirmed his intentions of signing with OS.
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Dec 13, 2017 10:23:05 GMT -8
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Post by angrybeaver67 on Dec 13, 2017 10:23:05 GMT -8
Hopefully Petra’s signs and is here in January... I try not to get too excited until recruits are here and attending. Seems many times we fans get all excited about a recruit that flips at the last moment. (Or just doesn’t qualify...doubt Petras would have any issues with qualifying, but always concerned about a flip).
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Dec 13, 2017 18:11:13 GMT -8
Post by ee1990 on Dec 13, 2017 18:11:13 GMT -8
Petras fan here. Dukart is the feel good but his accuracy is a concern. You don't often see a guy go from mid 50's completion % in HS to a great college QB. I'm a bit surprised there isn't more excitement around Petras(I get it there's not much around the whole program). That arm is INSANE. You cannot teach that. The dude can make all the NFL throws already. I admit that I didn’t see LO play except in the semis, but I’ve never seen so many balls dropped on such a good team. Jake practically had to run the ball out and hand it to his receivers. Don’t know if that was an aberration - or maybe he throws a ball that is tougher to track? He threw some ridiculous strikes in that game though. You could tell he is a baseball player with the snap of the wrist on those ropes he threw. He's small, plays poor comp, and doesn't have great stats. Maybe it's in the script for him to make me eat my words, but he's not an inspiring prospect. SP on the other hand is the complete opposite.
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