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Post by Aspira-beav on Nov 27, 2017 9:41:06 GMT -8
I would be very disappointed with anything less than a Beau Baldwin Hire. He is clearly more qualified than this guy
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Post by osulax24 on Nov 27, 2017 9:47:35 GMT -8
Doesn't scream "blue chip hire" to me... I hope this is all just finalization time for the Baldwin hire. Hate to say it, but I’m guessing that there are no experienced Power 5 guys who are the least interested right now, and probably no self-respecting D1 HCs of note in general. I sure hope that Beau doesn’t say, “no thanks” as well after this circus and the total dumpster fire finale on Saturday. I’ve always been happy about the idea of getting Baldwin as our next coach. He is a good and innovative coach who wants to be here. If the Coug job comes open, I fear we could lose him to WSU. Maybe all that’s left is for the ink to dry on the details, but if we’re talking about getting relegated to perusing assistant coaches (and defensive ones at that) whom we have never even heard of, we could be in serious trouble. I wonder if that search firm gives discounts to clients who can’t fill their vacancies with any legitimate candidate? I want to believe in the people in charge of this event (don’t think I’ll be able to use the word “process” again for a while...it kind of provokes PTSD symptoms for me) but for some reason I’m struggling to find the proper level of confidence in them given what has happened over the last 36 months. This ^^^^ |
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Post by zeroposter on Nov 27, 2017 9:55:12 GMT -8
OSULax, seconds ago, I had posted the WSU-Baldwin possibility on a different board. WSU does have the Paul Wulff disaster lurking in the background so there is that concern among WSU fans, and Grinch is pretty popular with the improvement the Coug defense has shown.
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Post by Henry Skrimshander on Nov 27, 2017 10:11:48 GMT -8
Funny we don't hear anything for weeks, then several tweets from Feldman concerning our situation in two days. Either someone from OSU is leaking, or agents are letting this out, trying to drum up interest for their clients.
Tedford never was interested. Don't want another defensive guy, either.
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Post by obf on Nov 27, 2017 10:15:30 GMT -8
Funny we don't hear anything for weeks, then several tweets from Feldman concerning our situation in two days. Either someone from OSU is leaking, or agents are letting this out, trying to drum up interest for their clients. Tedford never was interested. Don't want another defensive guy, either. After the football scoop, non scoop, I am adding a metric ass-ton of salt to everything now... I don't think anyone knows anything... Not Feldman, not Eggers, no one. Until Barnes or Ray or the official OSU Athletics twitter says something, I am just going to assume all the rumors are wrong... NOW HURRY UP BARNES WE ARE GETTING ANXIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 27, 2017 10:17:12 GMT -8
I hope this is all just finalization time for the Baldwin hire. Hate to say it, but I’m guessing that there are no experienced Power 5 guys who are the least interested right now, and probably no self-respecting D1 HCs of note in general. I sure hope that Beau doesn’t say, “no thanks” as well after this circus and the total dumpster fire finale on Saturday. I’ve always been happy about the idea of getting Baldwin as our next coach. He is a good and innovative coach who wants to be here. If the Coug job comes open, I fear we could lose him to WSU. Maybe all that’s left is for the ink to dry on the details, but if we’re talking about getting relegated to perusing assistant coaches (and defensive ones at that) whom we have never even heard of, we could be in serious trouble. I wonder if that search firm gives discounts to clients who can’t fill their vacancies with any legitimate candidate? I want to believe in the people in charge of this event (don’t think I’ll be able to use the word “process” again for a while...it kind of provokes PTSD symptoms for me) but for some reason I’m struggling to find the proper level of confidence in them given what has happened over the last 36 months. This ^^^^ From what I understand, Baldwin's contract has an 800 dollar retention bonus if he stays until the 10th of December and OSU doesn't want to match it so they're letting it ride until then. I don't know what I think of the Anderson rumor, it might save some money because OSU would only have to change one character on the typesetting for a lot of their promotional materials. Even with all of Anderson's D1 experience I'm not overly keen on hiring a Defensive Coordinator over someone with Baldwin's program running experience, even if Baldwin's was at a lower level. I guess you could call the benefit of experience for both guys a wash, at which point the interview skills and overall impressions have a larger weight on who gets hired. I hope whoever it is it all takes place in the next 7-8 days. If an announcement isn't made this week, I hold out hope that it's a coach who's involved in a conference championship this coming weekend. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 27, 2017 10:33:17 GMT -8
OSULax, seconds ago, I had posted the WSU-Baldwin possibility on a different board. WSU does have the Paul Wulff disaster lurking in the background so there is that concern among WSU fans, and Grinch is pretty popular with the improvement the Coug defense has shown. Did I miss something? Don't they already have a coach? |
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Post by ochobeavo on Nov 27, 2017 10:48:39 GMT -8
OSULax, seconds ago, I had posted the WSU-Baldwin possibility on a different board. WSU does have the Paul Wulff disaster lurking in the background so there is that concern among WSU fans, and Grinch is pretty popular with the improvement the Coug defense has shown. Did I miss something? Don't they already have a coach? Leach's name popped up over the weekend related to both the Arkansas opening and the Tennessee opening. I do think he's one of very few who are crazy enough to head to Knoxville at the moment. But I agree with that notion that, if he left, they'd promote Grinch vs bringing in Baldwin. |
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Post by zeroposter on Nov 27, 2017 10:51:56 GMT -8
OSULax, seconds ago, I had posted the WSU-Baldwin possibility on a different board. WSU does have the Paul Wulff disaster lurking in the background so there is that concern among WSU fans, and Grinch is pretty popular with the improvement the Coug defense has shown. Did I miss something? Don't they already have a coach? Definitely. And as you know, Leach has been one of the hot names for other coaching spots. Rumors are fun. Well, fun as long as Oregon State gets a quality guy. Lol. |
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Post by osulax24 on Nov 27, 2017 10:57:50 GMT -8
OSULax, seconds ago, I had posted the WSU-Baldwin possibility on a different board. WSU does have the Paul Wulff disaster lurking in the background so there is that concern among WSU fans, and Grinch is pretty popular with the improvement the Coug defense has shown. Ya, WSU is interesting behind the scenes. Where the dominos will fall will be crazy |
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Post by osulax24 on Nov 27, 2017 10:58:38 GMT -8
From what I understand, Baldwin's contract has an 800 dollar retention bonus if he stays until the 10th of December and OSU doesn't want to match it so they're letting it ride until then. I don't know what I think of the Anderson rumor, it might save some money because OSU would only have to change one character on the typesetting for a lot of their promotional materials. Even with all of Anderson's D1 experience I'm not overly keen on hiring a Defensive Coordinator over someone with Baldwin's program running experience, even if Baldwin's was at a lower level. I guess you could call the benefit of experience for both guys a wash, at which point the interview skills and overall impressions have a larger weight on who gets hired. I hope whoever it is it all takes place in the next 7-8 days. If an announcement isn't made this week, I hold out hope that it's a coach who's involved in a conference championship this coming weekend. $800?? |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 27, 2017 11:10:39 GMT -8
From what I understand, Baldwin's contract has an 800 dollar retention bonus if he stays until the 10th of December and OSU doesn't want to match it so they're letting it ride until then. I don't know what I think of the Anderson rumor, it might save some money because OSU would only have to change one character on the typesetting for a lot of their promotional materials. Even with all of Anderson's D1 experience I'm not overly keen on hiring a Defensive Coordinator over someone with Baldwin's program running experience, even if Baldwin's was at a lower level. I guess you could call the benefit of experience for both guys a wash, at which point the interview skills and overall impressions have a larger weight on who gets hired. I hope whoever it is it all takes place in the next 7-8 days. If an announcement isn't made this week, I hold out hope that it's a coach who's involved in a conference championship this coming weekend. $800?? Seemed like a good number to make up. Who knows what the hang up is. It might not be Baldwin. |
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Post by korculabeav on Nov 27, 2017 11:14:52 GMT -8
After the football scoop, non scoop, I am adding a metric ass-ton of salt to everything now... Quote of the day! LOL |
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Post by osulax24 on Nov 27, 2017 11:17:51 GMT -8
Seemed like a good number to make up. Who knows what the hang up is. It might not be Baldwin. Haha for sure |
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Post by baseba1111 on Nov 27, 2017 11:18:27 GMT -8
Leach personally already shut down the Tennessee move. He did not at the time shut down the A&M or MissSt ones.
Since Cal is done, and retention bonuses typically are paid to extend contacts only with a buyout attached, is think it would have been announced if it wad Baldwin.
If Baldwin has a $800k retention bonus it also most assuredly has stipulations to if he leaves after Dec 10th. Cal athletics is desperately hurting for $, they are not paying a OC $800k who then gets to keep it even if hired away.
PS- if we want to toss rumors...want a real big unsubstantiated rumor on Leach?
He loves the Pac12... not in love with the Palouse... very concerned about budget cuts and new AD hire... doesn't like the Phoenix area... loves being BIG fish, small pond... doesn't mind rebuilds to forge his style... in my mind is a "blue chipper"... 😉
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