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Post by atownbeaver on Nov 14, 2017 12:35:13 GMT -8
That seems strange that the hire has already been made almost a week before the job opening is supposed to close. Eh, kind of the way of the world. Anybody that was really interested immediately contacted OSU, or OSU immediately contacted them. the 11/20 date is just due legal diligence to CYA against lawsuit. The job posting and application process is just dotting Is and crossing Ts. the wheeling and dealing is done with search firms, and on the phone and with in person visits. I have never heard of a coach getting hired after an AD looked over a pile of resumes and went, OH HEY, this guy looks good! When this sort of thing happens, ADs have a short list. heck, most ADs always have a short list...
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Post by OriginalWhizzinator on Nov 14, 2017 12:44:41 GMT -8
Need to wait until Mike Riley gets fired from Nebraska, right?
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 14, 2017 12:54:35 GMT -8
With his history he'd leave in 10 seconds! I am pretty sure the reason you don't see coaches leave in that situation is that their contracts don't let them. Conference title games are part of the regular season. But whatever, I guess he could do something literally no coach has ever done. Might want to check that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 13:15:23 GMT -8
I am pretty sure the reason you don't see coaches leave in that situation is that their contracts don't let them. Conference title games are part of the regular season. But whatever, I guess he could do something literally no coach has ever done. Might want to check that. Okay, what head coaches have left before conference title games? I know some have been fired but I can't think of 1 that left for another job. If I am wrong I will gladly admit it.
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Post by beaverinohio on Nov 14, 2017 13:20:20 GMT -8
I understand that recruiting hangs in the balance and all but if the school is going to be able to talk to a good majority of candidates, wait till season's end (my opinion). Hiring this early sends the message that they are desperate and can only hire from the pool of current available candidates. So in other words, if someone is coaching another team that is interested and they don't have a bye week to get away, we miss out on them. Not sure we get the best guy with that approach?! Go Beavs! Quite a bit is done behind the scenes. As someone pointed out, they might have it down to 2 or 3 candidates through back channels and then when season ends they'll interview those and make decision quickly. But the timing definitely doesn't preclude a current head coach or assistant being coach of OS. In basketball, Illinois hired Brad Underwood away from Okla. St. on March 18. His team lost in NCAA tourney on March 17. And while there were a whole lot of names flying around as far as candidates, Underwood's name wasn't one of them -- so plenty of stuff happens behind the scenes.
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Post by beaverbeliever89 on Nov 14, 2017 13:37:40 GMT -8
I think we need to go back to original comments regarding search. Someone with previous head coaching experience and Northwest ties. I would imagine they have narrowed it down to two guys who fit that mold and I would also imagine that the search firm has already vetted them based on that criteria along with what ever else was on the directive from Barnes...If we are looking at these guys so are some of the other schools on the list of future and current openings. In our best interest to zero in and get everyone on the same page so that the process can start soon as possible with integrating the new staff.
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Post by blodgettbeaver on Nov 14, 2017 14:52:03 GMT -8
If your number one guy you wanted is in then why waste time. If it is this quick probably Tedford.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 14:57:49 GMT -8
If your number one guy you wanted is in then why waste time. If it is this quick probably Tedford. They are 1 win from the conference title game which won't be played till Saturday December 2nd. If its this quick I'd say its probably not Tedford.
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Post by blodgettbeaver on Nov 14, 2017 15:04:55 GMT -8
First week of December I believe would be after that game.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 15:08:08 GMT -8
First week of December I believe would be after that game. First week of December would be that game. Recruits generally visit on the weekend, December 2nd is the first Saturday of December. That would be the date I'd assume the recruits have pushed their visits too.
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Post by spudbeaver on Nov 14, 2017 15:17:12 GMT -8
Might want to check that. Okay, what head coaches have left before conference title games? I know some have been fired but I can't think of 1 that left for another job. If I am wrong I will gladly admit it. I guess I read your post wrong and somehow skewed it into coaches leaving before bowl games. My bad. I didn't get down to your later post by then. So what are you saying about a contract preventing it? Would it matter anyway if the coach was going to quit anyway?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2017 17:28:30 GMT -8
Okay, what head coaches have left before conference title games? I know some have been fired but I can't think of 1 that left for another job. If I am wrong I will gladly admit it. I guess I read your post wrong and somehow skewed it into coaches leaving before bowl games. My bad. I didn't get down to your later post by then. So what are you saying about a contract preventing it? Would it matter anyway if the coach was going to quit anyway? I am just guessing the contract prevents it. It matters even if they are planning to quit because most coaches have bonuses for conference titles for instance. Its also just not something coaches do. And frankly if a coach was gonna do that I wouldn't want him anyway. Its one thing to leave before a Bowl game since teams typically have multiple weeks to prepare (and most Bowl games are meaningless exhibitions anyhow) but to bail the week of a conference championship game would be unacceptable in my eyes so even if he would/could I wouldn't want him.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Nov 14, 2017 17:31:01 GMT -8
That seems strange that the hire has already been made almost a week before the job opening is supposed to close. Eh, kind of the way of the world. Anybody that was really interested immediately contacted OSU, or OSU immediately contacted them. the 11/20 date is just due legal diligence to CYA against lawsuit. The job posting and application process is just dotting Is and crossing Ts. the wheeling and dealing is done with search firms, and on the phone and with in person visits. I have never heard of a coach getting hired after an AD looked over a pile of resumes and went, OH HEY, this guy looks good! When this sort of thing happens, ADs have a short list. heck, most ADs always have a short list... You got a statistical model that can break down the odds of each candidate?
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Nov 14, 2017 18:04:43 GMT -8
If your number one guy you wanted is in then why waste time. If it is this quick probably Tedford. They are 1 win from the conference title game which won't be played till Saturday December 2nd. If its this quick I'd say its probably not Tedford. All things point towards Baldwin or Jones, or some other unknown candidate....
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Nov 14, 2017 18:42:20 GMT -8
They are 1 win from the conference title game which won't be played till Saturday December 2nd. If its this quick I'd say its probably not Tedford. All things point towards Baldwin or Jones, or some other unknown candidate.... I have been asking my Ouija board daily........It keeps saying the same thing.....
FTd
Not sure what to make of that
Go Beavs!!
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