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Post by beavered on Oct 28, 2017 19:38:02 GMT -8
By the way, let's say a guy like Jeff Tedford did get this job. Tedford is a former Fresno St player like Hall (there's a connection). That, paired with Tedford's great reputation as a HC and a coordinator, I would think, would keep Hall around on the staff? I'm not sure but I doubt Hall would feel that he would be too good to come back as a position coach, if the right guy gets the HC job here. But I wont pretend to know what Hall thinks and that's just my opinion. Just makels sense to me. Go Beavs! I noticed the other day that he and Tedford actually overlapped 2 years as player/coach. Tedford was OC when Hall was a player according to their respective wikis. Opposite sides of the ball but they must have some mutual acquaintances at a minimum.
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Post by jdogge on Oct 28, 2017 19:55:41 GMT -8
Hall vs Jonathan Smith. Neither has been a head coach, which prior threads/posts point out is a 'con' for JS. Cory Hall hasn't been a HC or coordinator, but he gets a pass? CH has done a great job in a bad situation, but is still 0-2 but yes, has the guys playing a helluva lot better than they did for GAG. Hall has been a HC at the HS level (not a real comparison) and will have been a HC for half a season - not much experience, but still more experience than Smith (whom I'd like to see in orange again)... You his girlfriend?
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Post by spudbeaver on Oct 28, 2017 20:27:54 GMT -8
That sounds like a bit of an overreaction. I'd think he's gone if not offered a DC job, because he will probably get one somewhere. I don't think ALL of the recruits would base their futures on him, maybe a couple or few. For recruits, it really all depends on who the next coach is and what kind of schemes they are going to play. As far as Hall, I'm not ready to commit to him as a top candidate yet, if the players continue to play this way and win 3-4 games then he has to be taken seriously as a candidate. A coach that can be a great motivator can make up for lack of experience in some ways. You either got it as a motivator or you don't, Hall looks as though he's got it, but it's only been two games. He'll have a pretty good audition since he's getting a half a season. Not at all, he is becoming a hot commodity really fast and he's going to get an opportunity (if not in Corvallis) somewhere else... I guess Hodgins' brother will come but all of the others will be gone... "I guess Hodgins' brother will come but all of the others will be gone.." You have no idea if this is true or not. Nobody does.
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Post by boydo on Oct 28, 2017 21:00:11 GMT -8
to this point in the season, I'm a little perplexed why so many people are instantly insisting that Coach Hall should be the next head coach of this program. I don't know if it's just the modern day instant gratification or what but man?! I really do like what he has done, especially considering the situation in these last 2 games but..... the reality is, both games were at home. Both games had one opponent that has struggled most of the season in Colorado and the other- Stanford who was missing their Heisman candidate RB with a QB that was struggling to keep the ball out of Oregon State defender's hands! And the Beavs did lose both games! Again, I'm not saying this Beaver team isn't looking better (no matter who they are playing) but the facts are: it's been two games, opponents weren't very good (in those games), both games were still losses, Cory Hall hasn't been a head coach at any level of collegiate football or even a coordinator for that matter. The players are feeding off of emotion and his energy and are probably caught up in all of that, so of course they want him as the new HC but that doesn't mean that he is the answer. You can't just hire a head coach of a power 5, PAC 12 school based on emotion and/or 2 games that the team just looks competitive in! I'm all in for the new HC keeping him on as an assistant or possibly even a coordinator! He would be the most common sense hold over from this staff in my opinion. Go Beavs!
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Post by boydo on Oct 28, 2017 21:08:22 GMT -8
I think it is too early to name Hall as the new head coach but if the team continues to perform for the rest of the season he should be given strong consideration. If you go through the normal process and hire a new coach after the season the new coach would come aboard in December. The early signing period starts December 20th and it is not likely that much of a class could be put together. I also think that more players would leave the program than is typical during a coaching change.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 28, 2017 21:21:02 GMT -8
I'm not so sure all our other coaches are under contract. That said, if we win out Hall's a viable candidate who might come cheap. Give him a 4-5 year contract with big incentives and back end loaded with a OSU favorable buyout and make him earn it. "If we win out..." How about we at least win once under Hall? Let's get that out of the way first... My point being one or two wins shouldn't give him the job. Four wins shouldn't give him the job, but he should be a viable candidate at that time.
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Post by omgclayaiken on Oct 29, 2017 6:42:41 GMT -8
"If we win out..." How about we at least win once under Hall? Let's get that out of the way first... My point being one or two wins shouldn't give him the job. Four wins shouldn't give him the job, but he should be a viable candidate at that time. Talk of Hall being gifted the job beyond this season is insanity. We will bring in a proven HC or Coordinator. My money is on Baldwin.
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Post by osulax24 on Oct 29, 2017 7:15:41 GMT -8
By the way, let's say a guy like Jeff Tedford did get this job. Tedford is a former Fresno St player like Hall (there's a connection). That, paired with Tedford's great reputation as a HC and a coordinator, I would think, would keep Hall around on the staff? I'm not sure but I doubt Hall would feel that he would be too good to come back as a position coach, if the right guy gets the HC job here. But I wont pretend to know what Hall thinks and that's just my opinion. Just makes sense to me. Go Beavs! We know you like Tedford, you mention it almost daily. I'd rather see us not hire a old washed up coach
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Post by gobeavs92 on Oct 29, 2017 8:04:03 GMT -8
By the way, let's say a guy like Jeff Tedford did get this job. Tedford is a former Fresno St player like Hall (there's a connection). That, paired with Tedford's great reputation as a HC and a coordinator, I would think, would keep Hall around on the staff? I'm not sure but I doubt Hall would feel that he would be too good to come back as a position coach, if the right guy gets the HC job here. But I wont pretend to know what Hall thinks and that's just my opinion. Just makes sense to me. Go Beavs! We know you like Tedford, you mention it almost daily. I'd rather see us not hire a old washed up coach "Everyday"...really? I don't even post on here everyday, so even in a sarcastic sense that isn't true! He is not a "old washed up coach". This sounds like the opinion of someone very young that doesn't know much his coaching career. But, that's your opinion! Go Beavs!
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Post by scrubber92 on Oct 29, 2017 8:08:53 GMT -8
My point being one or two wins shouldn't give him the job. Four wins shouldn't give him the job, but he should be a viable candidate at that time. Talk of Hall being gifted the job beyond this season is insanity. We will bring in a proven HC or Coordinator. My money is on Baldwin. well to be fair, as of today, Hall has more head coaching experience at this level than Baldwin.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 29, 2017 10:06:13 GMT -8
Talk of Hall being gifted the job beyond this season is insanity. We will bring in a proven HC or Coordinator. My money is on Baldwin. well to be fair, as of today, Hall has more head coaching experience at this level than Baldwin. That's kind of weak. Hall has never hired or fired a staff unless there was some drama in his one year as a high school coach. Hall has yet to make any decision here that affects him a year or two or three down the road. Baldwin has been a head coach for 10 years, made decisions and built and sustained a program. Essentially, Hall is more equivalent to a 19 year old kid that works at Chucky Cheese's for six months who's manager quits, and then gets promoted (by the regional manager who distrusts the current assistant) to interim manager while the regional manager goes out looking for a guy like Baldwin (who's actually run a small pizza joint or two for ten years) to take over. Hall has made a few game time decisions and has done well at directing the herd for three weeks, but that is absolutely nothing compared to building, running and sustaining a program for nine years like Baldwin did at EWU. To give 3 weeks as a fill in coach at this level more weight than 10 years as a highly successful coach one level down (who built a team that arguably could compete at this level despite being one level down) is bordering on nutty.
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Post by spudbeaver on Oct 29, 2017 12:46:45 GMT -8
Talk of Hall being gifted the job beyond this season is insanity. We will bring in a proven HC or Coordinator. My money is on Baldwin. well to be fair, as of today, Hall has more head coaching experience at this level than Baldwin. Not entirely. Since you picked the topic, I would argue that coaching against FBS teams in a game constitutes "head coaching experience at this level", therefore Baldwin has more experience due to FBS teams played while at EWU.
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Post by EOBeav on Oct 29, 2017 13:16:06 GMT -8
Just for perspective, Beaver Nation is the only fan base in div. 1 right now that wants Hall to be their next HC.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2017 13:43:31 GMT -8
Just for perspective, Beaver Nation is the only fan base in div. 1 right now that wants Hall to be their next HC. Which means exactly nothing as far as rather Hall could win as HC or not.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 29, 2017 13:48:30 GMT -8
Just for perspective, Beaver Nation is the only fan base in div. 1 right now that wants Hall to be their next HC. Which means exactly nothing as far as rather Hall could win as HC or not. Actually it does... to "win as a HC" you'd have to be a HC. Hence, one job, that isn't really I the table, it off 130 is not great odds!? Lol Hall will not be a D1 HC next year... betting the next few. And overall the odds are against him to be one at all. 130 jobs, fewer at the P5 level and 1000's of more qualified candidates, especially if you count NFL assts. Hall is a "youngster" in terms of coaching credentials and credibility to become a D1 HC.
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