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Post by beavsteve on Oct 23, 2017 18:56:41 GMT -8
Link Finally an article with clues to answers for some of the questions we've had about personnel and their positions.
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Post by 411500 on Oct 24, 2017 11:15:10 GMT -8
Always nice to read something from those who are in the middle of what's happening, and no one is closer that Coach R.....
Several things about the article struck me. So, for what it's worth, here they are.
This is the 2nd article I've read where Rueck has been very enthusiastic about Grymek - almost effusive. I hope her game is as impressive as he believes it can be.
Eggers more or less says that Grymek will not be a starter, leaving the other Big to be platooned among Corosdale, Washington, Thropay and Grymek.
It is interesting to me that Rueck has yet to say anything that can be interpreted as "upbeat" abut the development of any of the other 3 Bigs....Maybe it's too soon, maybe there is nothing to be upbeat about.
In October who knows? Coach himself may not know.
This article had more info about Taylor Kalmer than anything I can remember.....Basically, Coach likes everything about her work ethic and her basketball mentality, but he makes it clear she's not yet there defensively and she doesn't look after the ball as efficiently as he wants. I hope this is her year to break out. We need her offensive punch - she is the only player on this year's roster who consistently attacks at the offensive end of the court...
As most of us here on the board have already figured out, Coach R. made it very clear that Kat Tudor must have a big year for the team to have a big year...He expects her to produce big-time and I hope he is right. (Obviously, so does he !!)
KMac is another difference maker, and, like Tudor, the Beavs need her to demonstrate an impressive uptick in her total game to have a successful season....Katie has mastered her role as a support player, but she is now at the stage of her career where she must step up beyond being only a support player and prove that she can be a much needed go-to player. Her step-up is essential if the Beavs hope to consistently put up 60-65 points per game.
Aleah as back-up to Pivec sounds about right.....
Fast forward one month to Nov. 24. The Notre Dame match-up Is history, the team is getting ready for Duke at Duke, and all of us will know a great deal more about the 4 players who will determine whether this year's team is good or very good: Washington, Thropay, Tudor, and Kalmer....On their considerable improvement this season rides.
At least that's how I see it.......
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Post by beavsteve on Oct 24, 2017 12:44:52 GMT -8
Always nice to read something from those who are in the middle of what's happening, and no one is closer that Coach R..... Several things about the article struck me. So, for what it's worth, here they are. This is the 2nd article I've read where Rueck has been very enthusiastic about Grymek - almost effusive. I hope her game is as impressive as he believes it can be. Eggers more or less says that Grymek will not be a starter, leaving the other Big to be platooned among Corosdale, Washington, Thropay and Grymek. It is interesting to me that Rueck has yet to say anything that can be interpreted as "upbeat" abut the development of any of the other 3 Bigs....Maybe it's too soon, maybe there is nothing to be upbeat about. In October who knows? Coach himself may not know. This article had more info about Taylor Kalmer than anything I can remember.....Basically, Coach likes everything about her work ethic and her basketball mentality, but he makes it clear she's not yet there defensively and she doesn't look after the ball as efficiently as he wants. I hope this is her year to break out. We need her offensive punch - she is the only player on this year's roster who consistently attacks at the offensive end of the court... As most of us here on the board have already figured out, Coach R. made it very clear that Kat Tudor must have a big year for the team to have a big year...He expects her to produce big-time and I hope he is right. (Obviously, so does he !!) KMac is another difference maker, and, like Tudor, the Beavs need her to demonstrate an impressive uptick in her total game to have a successful season....Katie has mastered her role as a support player, but she is now at the stage of her career where she must step up beyond being only a support player and prove that she can be a much needed go-to player. Her step-up is essential if the Beavs hope to consistently put up 60-65 points per game. Aleah as back-up to Pivec sounds about right..... Fast forward one month to Nov. 24. The Notre Dame match-up Is history, the team is getting ready for Duke at Duke, and all of us will know a great deal more about the 4 players who will determine whether this year's team is good or very good: Washington, Thropay, Tudor, and Kalmer....On their considerable improvement this season rides. At least that's how I see it....... What I saw relating to Kalmer was defense and "decision making". From what I saw in the games last year was that she'd often get the ball and seem to hesitate too long before he next move. Either the offensive opportunity is there or it isn't; if it isn't she needs to keep the ball moving within the offense... which I don't recall her doing a lot of. You are right... we need her offense badly and I'm really hoping she steps it up this year. Rueck did say that she is in the best condition yet. Hopefully that translates into better defense. What I read is that Rueck is looking to Pivec to replace Syd's offense production. I know Mik has been focusing upon improving her shot in the off-season, so hopefully Scott is saying this because he's seen improvement. I was hoping Aleah could play some point guard and was disappointed to see the article suggesting that Katie is the likely going to take that position. My only concern with Katie is ball handling against the small, super-quick guards she'll be facing. This is actually where Taylor Kalmer could probably help the most... but the decision-making weakness is Scott referred to is the big concern. |
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Post by believeinthebeavs on Oct 24, 2017 19:19:52 GMT -8
Good article. Today is the end of the first three weeks of practice, it wouldn't surprise me to see some changes in the line up. Last year we were 8 or 9 games into the season before the final starting line up was decided.
If KTM is the point guard, who is the back up? It sounded like Kat would be backed up by TK, and AG for Mik. In a previous interview Rueck compared Aleah to Sage Indendi, high praise. She may get a few minutes in relief or even more. I'd like to see what Mik could do at point, I think she played it in high school.
The post situation is a little clearer, we know who will play where (for the most part). Just not when or how much.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 9:20:58 GMT -8
We're going to have problems if KM is point guard. Imagine KM having to guard UCLA's Jordin Canada. You know what they say: If you've got a guard on the perimeter guarded by a slow-footed big, then the guard can just go around the big. KM would be a statue. And unable to produce offensively, too: With that big frame, she doesn't have a quick start. She'll be impotent offensively and defensively. What a waste. We'll be the only WBB team in the entire country with a slow-footed 6'2" guard because every coach in the country except Scott Rueck knows that it's a huge mistake.
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Post by ochobeavo on Oct 25, 2017 9:32:03 GMT -8
We're going to have problems if KM is point guard. Imagine KM having to guard UCLA's Jordin Canada. You know what they say: If you've got a guard on the perimeter guarded by a slow-footed big, then the guard can just go around the big. KM would be a statue. And unable to produce offensively, too: With that big frame, she doesn't have a quick start. She'll be impotent offensively and defensively. What a waste. We'll be the only WBB team in the entire country with a slow-footed 6'2" guard because every coach in the country except Scott Rueck knows that it's a huge mistake. But your PG doesn't necessarily have to guard the other PG - I haven't seen enough to be an expert by any means, but could Pivec hang with Canada from a quickness standpoint? Then you put KM on an off-guard? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 9:41:00 GMT -8
We're going to have problems if KM is point guard. Imagine KM having to guard UCLA's Jordin Canada. You know what they say: If you've got a guard on the perimeter guarded by a slow-footed big, then the guard can just go around the big. KM would be a statue. And unable to produce offensively, too: With that big frame, she doesn't have a quick start. She'll be impotent offensively and defensively. What a waste. We'll be the only WBB team in the entire country with a slow-footed 6'2" guard because every coach in the country except Scott Rueck knows that it's a huge mistake. But your PG doesn't necessarily have to guard the other PG - I haven't seen enough to be an expert by any means, but could Pivec hang with Canada from a quickness standpoint? Then you put KM on an off-guard? You would still be left with a mismatch: One too many big on the floor unable to match up to a guard. Even if that could be done, you'd still have the problem of having your primary ball handler on offense (KM) out there where she can be harassed by a quick guard (such as Jordin Canada). KM would be unable to get away and unable to even pass. Two years ago when she had to replace Syd she ran into the same problem. She'll be tied up in knots by a quick guard. Bring another player over to double-team her and it's a guaranteed turnover. Without a true PG I'm afraid this season is going to be really disappointing. Last year Rueck had sense enough to realize that KM needed to be replaced in the starting lineup with Pivec. Hopefully he will realize his mistake with KM this year, too, before the season is too far gone. |
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Post by ochobeavo on Oct 25, 2017 9:45:44 GMT -8
But your PG doesn't necessarily have to guard the other PG - I haven't seen enough to be an expert by any means, but could Pivec hang with Canada from a quickness standpoint? Then you put KM on an off-guard? Even if that could be done, you'd still have the problem of having your primary ball handler on offense (KM) out there where she can be harassed by a quick guard (such as Jordin Canada). KM would be unable to get away and unable to even pass. Two years ago when she had to replace Syd she ran into the same problem. She'll be tied up in knots by a quick guard. Bring another player over to double-team her and it's a guaranteed turnover. Without a true PG I'm afraid this season is going to be really disappointing. Fair enough and good points. i'm sadly pretty ignorant as I only watch a couple times/year. Aside from UCLA/Canada are there other teams in the P12 that will pose a similar issue if KM is the hypothetical ball handler or also cause us the match up issues on defense? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 9:54:59 GMT -8
Even if that could be done, you'd still have the problem of having your primary ball handler on offense (KM) out there where she can be harassed by a quick guard (such as Jordin Canada). KM would be unable to get away and unable to even pass. Two years ago when she had to replace Syd she ran into the same problem. She'll be tied up in knots by a quick guard. Bring another player over to double-team her and it's a guaranteed turnover. Without a true PG I'm afraid this season is going to be really disappointing. Fair enough and good points. i'm sadly pretty ignorant as I only watch a couple times/year. Aside from UCLA/Canada are there other teams in the P12 that will pose a similar issue if KM is the hypothetical ball handler or also cause us the match up issues on defense? Every team has a quick PG who could handle KM. Stanford has Sniezek, ASU is loaded with quick and experienced guards, and so are the ducks and WSU, UW has MacDonald, etc. When it comes to the games against good teams that you have to win to be in the top echelon of the conference, we'll be hurting. Even Sydney, despite being an excellent ball handler, could be tied up in knots. I recall numerous times when she was at the point and couldn't get away, dribbling in circles when tightly covered, thoroughly paralyzed. She was just 6'0. KM at 6'2" will be even more stymied when closely guarded by a quicker player. |
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Post by beavershoopsfan on Oct 25, 2017 10:08:35 GMT -8
If there is one thing that we have learned from watching the Beavers WBB squad the past three seasons it is that the coaching staff will have the team playing quality team defense again this season. Canada is one of the quickest point guards with the basketball in the country, so it will take a collective team effort to limit her when the Beavs play UCLA. It was the same way when Gabby Hanson (last season's PAC-12 Conference Defensive Player of the Year) matched up with Canada the past three years. The team will be ready to provide help on the perimeter and force Canada to shoot over the defense from mid-range rather than allowing her to penetrate by her defender and get into the key. Coach Rueck will have the team switch to a zone if needed and then switch back to man-to-man to force the opposition to adjust.
I think Beaver Nation continues to keenly remember how ultra-quick guards hounded Sydney Wiese last season, regularly forcing turnovers and disrupting the start of our offensive sets. With Wiese off to the WBNA and Australia, the Beavs will need to make opposing teams pay more frequently for their gambling and pressing by fast breaking and converting on the offensive end when the team has favorable numbers (3-on-2, 2-on-1). Otherwise, the Beavs will see that kind of hounding defense in our back court all season long. I am hopeful that the ball movement of the '17-'18 Beavs will be improved so that we will see the team make the opposition reconsider pressing throughout the game after a few transition baskets by the Beavs.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 25, 2017 10:15:20 GMT -8
But your PG doesn't necessarily have to guard the other PG - I haven't seen enough to be an expert by any means, but could Pivec hang with Canada from a quickness standpoint? Then you put KM on an off-guard? You would still be left with a mismatch: One too many big on the floor unable to match up to a guard. Even if that could be done, you'd still have the problem of having your primary ball handler on offense (KM) out there where she can be harassed by a quick guard (such as Jordin Canada). KM would be unable to get away and unable to even pass. Two years ago when she had to replace Syd she ran into the same problem. She'll be tied up in knots by a quick guard. Bring another player over to double-team her and it's a guaranteed turnover. Without a true PG I'm afraid this season is going to be really disappointing. Last year Rueck had sense enough to realize that KM needed to be replaced in the starting lineup with Pivec. Hopefully he will realize his mistake with KM this year, too, before the season is too far gone. Ya... SR is such a slow learner and has little "sense" who who can play and who has made improvements for the style of play they'll shoot for this year. And, I can't believe all the mistakes he made last year. Wow... what a new take, coaches making adjustments to their lineups due to performance or injury. Unbelievable concept!! Wow... maybe you should just offer him your services. LMAO Calling atownbeaver... another easily "II" as you just mentioned in another thread on MR. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 10:44:31 GMT -8
You would still be left with a mismatch: One too many big on the floor unable to match up to a guard. Even if that could be done, you'd still have the problem of having your primary ball handler on offense (KM) out there where she can be harassed by a quick guard (such as Jordin Canada). KM would be unable to get away and unable to even pass. Two years ago when she had to replace Syd she ran into the same problem. She'll be tied up in knots by a quick guard. Bring another player over to double-team her and it's a guaranteed turnover. Without a true PG I'm afraid this season is going to be really disappointing. Last year Rueck had sense enough to realize that KM needed to be replaced in the starting lineup with Pivec. Hopefully he will realize his mistake with KM this year, too, before the season is too far gone. Ya... SR is such a slow learner and has little "sense" who who can play and who has made improvements for the style of play they'll shoot for this year. And, I can't believe all the mistakes he made last year. Wow... what a new take, coaches making adjustments to their lineups due to performance or injury. Unbelievable concept!! Wow... maybe you should just offer him your services. LMAO Calling atownbeaver... another easily "II" as you just mentioned in another thread on MR. Oh Mighty One! I am humbled once again by your formidable intelligence, wit, and insights! Who am I, a midge of a man, to render ANY criticism of any OSU coach, for they are pure and faultless, while I am, well, barely a man at all, especially compared to one as decisive and forthright as yourself. Forgive me! |
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 25, 2017 10:49:12 GMT -8
Ya... SR is such a slow learner and has little "sense" who who can play and who has made improvements for the style of play they'll shoot for this year. And, I can't believe all the mistakes he made last year. Wow... what a new take, coaches making adjustments to their lineups due to performance or injury. Unbelievable concept!! Wow... maybe you should just offer him your services. LMAO Calling atownbeaver... another easily "II" as you just mentioned in another thread on MR. Oh Mighty One! I am humbled once again by your formidable intelligence, wit, and insights! Who am I, a midge of a man, to render ANY criticism of any OSU coach, for they are pure and faultless, while I am, well, barely a man at all, especially compared to one as decisive and forthright as yourself. Forgive me! No problem... allowances vs forgivemess are made for those whose posts precede them... and already "tagged II" |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2017 10:56:10 GMT -8
Oh Mighty One! I am humbled once again by your formidable intelligence, wit, and insights! Who am I, a midge of a man, to render ANY criticism of any OSU coach, for they are pure and faultless, while I am, well, barely a man at all, especially compared to one as decisive and forthright as yourself. Forgive me! No problem... allowances vs forgivemess are made for those whose posts precede them... and already "tagged II" Thank you, O Mighty One! Your grace, generosity, and charm are once again shining their light on my world! |
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Post by blackbug on Oct 25, 2017 12:30:40 GMT -8
But your PG doesn't necessarily have to guard the other PG - I haven't seen enough to be an expert by any means, but could Pivec hang with Canada from a quickness standpoint? Then you put KM on an off-guard? You would still be left with a mismatch: One too many big on the floor unable to match up to a guard. Even if that could be done, you'd still have the problem of having your primary ball handler on offense (KM) out there where she can be harassed by a quick guard (such as Jordin Canada). KM would be unable to get away and unable to even pass. Two years ago when she had to replace Syd she ran into the same problem. She'll be tied up in knots by a quick guard. Bring another player over to double-team her and it's a guaranteed turnover. Without a true PG I'm afraid this season is going to be really disappointing. Last year Rueck had sense enough to realize that KM needed to be replaced in the starting lineup with Pivec. Hopefully he will realize his mistake with KM this year, too, before the season is too far gone. You appear to think poorly of KM. I do not share this opinion. How do you propose using KM? Traditionally with Rueck the team has had 3 guards on the floor almost all the time. I do not see KM playing the power forward spot. It seems to me that you are proposing that it does not matter which of the 3 guard spots KM plays she will be a liability; especially on defense. The team lost 1 game when KM was the starting point guard when Wiese was injured. Rueck places high priority on defense when allotting playing time. KM was considered about the 4th best defender on the team last year with 2 graduating since then. I do agree that KM is not the quickest guard, but that is not the most important thing. We have proved that time and again with Wiese. Just my 2 cents with sincere questions mixed in. Thanks. |
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