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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2017 14:36:58 GMT -8
The numbers aren’t what were planned or hoped for, but Oregon State’s cupboard is far from bare when it comes to its big guys. The Beavers will open their men’s basketball season next month without sophomore forward Ben Kone, who could return in mid- to late November from minor knee surgery, which took place a few weeks ago. They also won’t have senior center Cheikh N’diaye, who’s yet to be cleared to play with a recurring shoulder injury. Still, experience and versatility are on the Beavers’ side. OSU has three veterans of its system and two newcomers who will fill spots down low. Senior Seth Berger and juniors Drew Eubanks and Gligorije Rakocevic can all play at center, the 5, or power forward, the 4. With N’diaye’s return this season uncertain, Eubanks, at 6-foot-10, and Rakocevic (6-11) are the team’s two true centers. OSU men's basketball: Beavers feature versatile big men
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Post by mbabeav on Oct 19, 2017 15:46:14 GMT -8
This seems like a cornucopia inside compared to last season. Go Beavs!
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 19, 2017 19:48:55 GMT -8
If everyone sticks around, and qualifies, next year looks even better. 5 guys 6'10" and over, 2 of them 7 footers, most can run. Good times ahead.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 4:07:41 GMT -8
This seems like a cornucopia inside compared to last season. Go Beavs! same dudes as last season but lets hope eubanks and big glig are more ready to go.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 20, 2017 8:40:27 GMT -8
This seems like a cornucopia inside compared to last season. Go Beavs! same dudes as last season but lets hope eubanks and big glig are more ready to go. Berger is a nice addition. The biggest thing this year is having (hopefully) a healthy Tres Tinkle in the mix. Without him the bigs are on their own.
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Post by mbabeav on Oct 20, 2017 12:05:23 GMT -8
same dudes as last season but lets hope eubanks and big glig are more ready to go. Berger is a nice addition. The biggest thing this year is having (hopefully) a healthy Tres Tinkle in the mix. Without him the bigs are on their own. Drew had to deal with constant double and triple team because their was no need to really defend most of the other players - and his stats still put him up into the upper echelon of the Pac-12. Not sure how he "wasn't ready to go". And Big G was still learning, and this year has at least on paper put himself in a much better position to succeed through continued hard work.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 20, 2017 14:18:05 GMT -8
Berger is a nice addition. The biggest thing this year is having (hopefully) a healthy Tres Tinkle in the mix. Without him the bigs are on their own. Drew had to deal with constant double and triple team because their was no need to really defend most of the other players - and his stats still put him up into the upper echelon of the Pac-12. Not sure how he "wasn't ready to go". And Big G was still learning, and this year has at least on paper put himself in a much better position to succeed through continued hard work. Drew needs to improve his BB IQ and most definitely his temperament. One of the reasons teams could double/ triple up is that Drew could not pass out of it to make the strategy hurt. He's always had decent stats vs NC cupcakes and struggled vs upper echelon Pac12 bigs. He is often time seems to lose interest, not pay attention to coaching, coasts up court in transition. That needs to change for us to take steps forward. The best part of this team is that were deep enough to go big or small, and have the ability to sit people when needed... for whatever reason.
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Post by jdogge on Oct 20, 2017 15:10:43 GMT -8
Drew had to deal with constant double and triple team because their was no need to really defend most of the other players - and his stats still put him up into the upper echelon of the Pac-12. Not sure how he "wasn't ready to go". And Big G was still learning, and this year has at least on paper put himself in a much better position to succeed through continued hard work. Drew needs to improve his BB IQ and most definitely his temperament. One of the reasons teams could double/ triple up is that Drew could not pass out of it to make the strategy hurt. He's always had decent stats vs NC cupcakes and struggled vs upper echelon Pac12 bigs. He is often time seems to lose interest, not pay attention to coaching, coasts up court in transition. That needs to change for us to take steps forward. The best part of this team is that were deep enough to go big or small, and have the ability to sit people when needed... for whatever reason. 1111 said something --- positive? OMG, someone check the temperature in hell!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2017 16:57:55 GMT -8
Drew needs to improve his BB IQ and most definitely his temperament. One of the reasons teams could double/ triple up is that Drew could not pass out of it to make the strategy hurt. He's always had decent stats vs NC cupcakes and struggled vs upper echelon Pac12 bigs. He is often time seems to lose interest, not pay attention to coaching, coasts up court in transition. That needs to change for us to take steps forward. The best part of this team is that were deep enough to go big or small, and have the ability to sit people when needed... for whatever reason. 1111 said something --- positive? OMG, some one check the temperature in hell!! no read again, he is saying we now can sit people because they have bad attitudes but i am not sure the addition of TT really a depth thing. It's more like he's the main enchilada in this tv dinner. He needs to stay upright. Which means limiting his minutes. Oddly enough we are talking about depth again. Berger? Something tells me he will be a nice ingredient. Not a scorer but a defensive stop sign down on the baseline. Need that. The side door was wide open last year. Mouses in the houses!
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Post by beaverinohio on Oct 21, 2017 7:53:52 GMT -8
Drew needs to improve his BB IQ and most definitely his temperament. One of the reasons teams could double/ triple up is that Drew could not pass out of it to make the strategy hurt. He's always had decent stats vs NC cupcakes and struggled vs upper echelon Pac12 bigs. He is often time seems to lose interest, not pay attention to coaching, coasts up court in transition. That needs to change for us to take steps forward. The best part of this team is that were deep enough to go big or small, and have the ability to sit people when needed... for whatever reason. 1111 said something --- positive? OMG, some one check the temperature in hell!! Living in Ohio I only see the Beavers on TV, so it is difficult to pick up on the "temperament" aspect or to the not paying attention to coaching of Eubanks. And while I'd agree he needs to become more consistent with his play, he was only a sophomore. Yes, I'd like to see him get better passing out of double and triple-teams and cut down on turnovers, but I think some of that was on his teammates who too often were standing still rather than moving. He had some very good games against the better big men in the conference and some not so good, so his stats aren't just all about feasting on NC cupcakes. I think the big thing is becoming more consistent on the road. Three of four of his lowest scoring games in conference came on the road, as did 6 of 9 of his worst rebounding games in conference. If he can improve in that area and cut down on the turnovers, I will be happy with his progress.
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Post by bill82 on Oct 21, 2017 11:51:59 GMT -8
The best part of this team is that were deep enough to go big or small, and have the ability to sit people when needed... for whatever reason. I don't get that we could not sit people last year. We could have played with four on the court and had the same conference record. Someone has to provide leadership like GPII. Numbers don't matter without leadership.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 21, 2017 12:43:00 GMT -8
The best part of this team is that were deep enough to go big or small, and have the ability to sit people when needed... for whatever reason. I don't get that we could not sit people last year. We could have played with four on the court and had the same conference record. Someone has to provide leadership like GPII. Numbers don't matter without leadership. Agreed... but we weren't competitive playing who we did. Our subs were mostly undersized, unskilled D1 walk ons. WT had little choice at times. Wasn't like he knew 5-27 bad was going to be the end result. My issue with the thread title... "versatile". We have "more", but our bigs are anything but versatile. As far as leadership, that is what I began to see from Tres before he got injured. Just don't see how anyone can realistically think this team in 20 wins or more and tourney bound from 5-27, no true leader, and questionable BB IQ. Could it happen? Sure. But, 17 wins is a +12 and that's quite a jump.
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