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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 30, 2017 21:21:50 GMT -8
Is that why Portland State outscored Oregon State in the third quarter? Dopey. California played USC tough for three quarters and then folded. Jimmy and Joes. Oregon State keeps it close for two quarters and comes out of the locker room. Then, they get blown out? Do all of the players customarily eat a half-rack of ribs and then down a gallon of malt liquor at halftime? It is flat-out terrible coaching. The other team makes halftime adjustments and makes Oregon State's players look like they are hungover and 50 pounds heavier (except the linemen, who each look 50 pounds lighter). It was clear the huskies would come out and throw the ball in the second half. They knew Pettis and the others would get open or get a PI call. One adjustment the beavs could have made was go to a nickel or dime on first down but they stayed in base D on every first down on that opening drive. Touchdown huskies. I understand picking your poison and stopping Gaskin was priority 1 in the first half. But when you have nothing to lose why not take a chance and try to get Browning to throw into double coverage? I believe I saw some 3-3-5. Washington seemed to run every time Oregon State went to the 3-3-5. The Huskies used tempo very well. Smitty made GAG look like a glorified high school coach. Sad!
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Post by baseba1111 on Sept 30, 2017 21:24:37 GMT -8
It was clear the huskies would come out and throw the ball in the second half. They knew Pettis and the others would get open or get a PI call. One adjustment the beavs could have made was go to a nickel or dime on first down but they stayed in base D on every first down on that opening drive. Touchdown huskies. I understand picking your poison and stopping Gaskin was priority 1 in the first half. But when you have nothing to lose why not take a chance and try to get Browning to throw into double coverage? I believe I saw some 3-3-5. Washington seemed to run every time Oregon State went to the 3-3-5. The Huskies used tempo very well. Smitty made GAG look like a glorified high school coach. Sad! Rumor has it GAGs been calling the D almost exclusively since WSU?! If so hee sucks at two things. Hint GAG... you can't try and substitute on D when the offense doesn't and is in hurry up mode.
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Post by 56chevy on Oct 1, 2017 5:49:44 GMT -8
Candid would be that Coach Anderson has failed as a recruiter to assemble enough talent to be competitive on the field...period. Anyone who thinks the coaching staff can now wave some magic X's and O's pixie dust out there and make us a competitive football team does not know much about football or is in denial. The real question at this point is how does next years recruiting class look?
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Post by lebaneaver on Oct 1, 2017 7:39:10 GMT -8
Agree with most posts. I tire of people making excuses for this failed/failing staff. Something is definitely amiss. Our (my) expectations might be very low with this regime, but.... Good God. Have they simply cashed it in?
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Post by RenoBeaver on Oct 1, 2017 7:58:24 GMT -8
I guess the non-OSU media has been asking about halftime adjustments frequently. Big Jim thinks it is more about the Jimmys and Joes getting worn out vice the X's and O's. CGA; "We were disfunctional trying to throw the ball" "Water is wet". Oregon State is an island. Surrounded by water. Ocean water. Big water.
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Post by Tigardbeav on Oct 1, 2017 8:15:31 GMT -8
Oregon State is an island. Surrounded by water. Ocean water. Big water. With more fans watching the game than ever in the history of ncaa
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Post by ag87 on Oct 1, 2017 8:20:28 GMT -8
Oregon State is an island. Surrounded by water. Ocean water. Big water. With more fans watching the game than ever in the history of ncaa PERIOD.
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 1, 2017 8:29:11 GMT -8
Candid would be that Coach Anderson has failed as a recruiter to assemble enough talent to be competitive on the field...period. Anyone who thinks the coaching staff can now wave some magic X's and O's pixie dust out there and make us a competitive football team does not know much about football or is in denial. The real question at this point is how does next years recruiting class look? Last in the Pac12... and I'm going to be surprised if the "supposed" 4* QB sticks. Only because I'm not sure what parent would watch us and think it's in the best interest of their kids future to come play for GAG and staff?! Parents just have to do a little research to find out GAG's QB "history". And, if your kid is really a 4* there are many options open to you. PS- and... what "big time" GAG recruit has truly contributed let alone seen the field so far??
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Post by Judge Smails on Oct 2, 2017 8:46:35 GMT -8
Candid would be that Coach Anderson has failed as a recruiter to assemble enough talent to be competitive on the field...period. Anyone who thinks the coaching staff can now wave some magic X's and O's pixie dust out there and make us a competitive football team does not know much about football or is in denial. The real question at this point is how does next years recruiting class look? Last in the Pac12... and I'm going to be surprised if the "supposed" 4* QB sticks. Only because I'm not sure what parent would watch us and think it's in the best interest of their kids future to come play for GAG and staff?! Parents just have to do a little research to find out GAG's QB "history". And, if your kid is really a 4* there are many options open to you. PS- and... what "big time" GAG recruit has truly contributed let alone seen the field so far??David Morris
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Post by baseba1111 on Oct 2, 2017 9:18:11 GMT -8
Last in the Pac12... and I'm going to be surprised if the "supposed" 4* QB sticks. Only because I'm not sure what parent would watch us and think it's in the best interest of their kids future to come play for GAG and staff?! Parents just have to do a little research to find out GAG's QB "history". And, if your kid is really a 4* there are many options open to you. PS- and... what "big time" GAG recruit has truly contributed let alone seen the field so far??David Morris My bad... he "contributes"... my thoughts were more contributes to a good unit. And... I did not see hon as "big time" as in national recruit. I know this will be taken as a slam to David, but it's not near that way. However, he's not seeing the field for another Pac12 team this year unless depleted due to injuries. Well, he might for a couple considering he'd get better coaching! But, for us most of his tackles are rarely in the box and 6-10+ yds downfield. He is consistently out of position (as are most of the DBs) in pass coverage. He's starting/playing because we have zero quality depth. We're giving up 490 yds per game. Some kids have made good plays, some good games, but our defense sux. So... I guess he's contributing to our ineptitude. And... for those who actually watched him in HS at Sherwood he was better there in terms of being instinctive and attacking. The coaching here has made him slow to react and reactive, not proactive. Let's say he's been "over coached" out of what made him extremely athletic and aggressively under control.
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Post by gnawitall on Oct 2, 2017 9:22:58 GMT -8
My bad... he "contributes"... my thoughts were more contributes to a good unit. I know this will be taken as a slam to David, but it's not near that way. However, he's not seeing the field for another Pac12 team this year unless depleted due to injuries. His tackles are rarely in the box and 6-10 yds downfield. He is consistently out of position (as are most of the DBs) I pass coverage. He's starting/playing because we have zero quality depth. We're giving up 490 yds per game. Some kids have made good plays, some good games, but our defense sux. So... I guess he's contributing to our ineptitude. And... for those who actually watched him in HS at Sherwood he was better there in terms of being instinctive and attacking. The coaching here has made him slow to react and reactive. Let's say he's been "over coached" out of what made him extremely athletic and aggressively under control. I would think the competition may have something to do with that. He's not the fastest guy on the field anymore.
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Post by vhalum92 on Oct 2, 2017 13:11:30 GMT -8
It was clear the huskies would come out and throw the ball in the second half. They knew Pettis and the others would get open or get a PI call. One adjustment the beavs could have made was go to a nickel or dime on first down but they stayed in base D on every first down on that opening drive. Touchdown huskies. I understand picking your poison and stopping Gaskin was priority 1 in the first half. But when you have nothing to lose why not take a chance and try to get Browning to throw into double coverage? I believe I saw some 3-3-5. Washington seemed to run every time Oregon State went to the 3-3-5. The Huskies used tempo very well. Smitty made GAG look like a glorified high school coach. Sad! Adding my objection to the 3 man Defensive front. I just don't get it..... there are 5 guys to block 3! The Line backers are 4-5 yards off the ball, how in the name of all things Holy can you anticipate that alignment having any success in stopping the run? And if your anticipating a pass, how do you expect to pressure the QB, even if you blitz it is still basically man on man schemes that nullify your defense and leave your DBs having to defend some future NFL WR. I just don't get it.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Oct 2, 2017 13:36:37 GMT -8
I believe I saw some 3-3-5. Washington seemed to run every time Oregon State went to the 3-3-5. The Huskies used tempo very well. Smitty made GAG look like a glorified high school coach. Sad! Adding my objection to the 3 man Defensive front. I just don't get it..... there are 5 guys to block 3! The Line backers are 4-5 yards off the ball, how in the name of all things Holy can you anticipate that alignment having any success in stopping the run? And if your anticipating a pass, how do you expect to pressure the QB, even if you blitz it is still basically man on man schemes that nullify your defense and leave your DBs having to defend some future NFL WR. I just don't get it. My personal play of the game came on Washington's first drive of the second half. The Huskies drove 62 yards on a 32-yard pass and two pass interference penalties. Oregon State's defense stiffened and held on three straight plays to bring up 4th-and-10 at the 25. Oregon State ran 3-3-5 on the 4th and 10. The Beavers linebackers started to cheat up, showing blitz, so Browning called an audible. Oregon State blitzed, taking four out of the six DL/LBs out of the play. Washington's RG blocked Willis to set the edge. The RT blocked Ugwoegbu. Crawford and Morris both got blocked by one WR. Morris took a horrible angle and basically took himself and Crawford into the block. Crawford did everything that he could other than anticipate that Morris was going to run himself and Crawford out of the play. It took a bad play by Morris to spring the RB, but Washington put itself in a situation, where their RB would be in a 1-on-1 situation with a DB at worst. If the Beavers make that stop, it's a ballgame. Instead, Washington scores on the next play and the floodgates open.
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Post by joeavocado on Oct 2, 2017 14:11:01 GMT -8
You could see that 4th and 10 play coming a mile away on TV. The lineman for OSU was set up inside the UW tackle, he had no chance to contain the edge or get outside. The OLB cheated up into the middle of the line way too early. You could see there were no defenders outside the tackle, I can't believe a defense would ever line up that way on purpose. You can see immediately after the hand off the RB isn't going to get touched until after he has the first down. But then again, you could see the defense playing on borrowed time the entire first half, gambling and hoping it would pay off, which it did temporarily. That's not sustainable. Anyone that thought the Beavers had any chance of winning even when they were only down 7-0 at the half is delusional. These games remind me so much of the Pettibone years, where people actually think it's a positive that the game is still competitive in the 3rd quarter. How far they've fallen.
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Post by atownbeaver on Oct 2, 2017 14:19:23 GMT -8
I believe I saw some 3-3-5. Washington seemed to run every time Oregon State went to the 3-3-5. The Huskies used tempo very well. Smitty made GAG look like a glorified high school coach. Sad! Adding my objection to the 3 man Defensive front. I just don't get it..... there are 5 guys to block 3! The Line backers are 4-5 yards off the ball, how in the name of all things Holy can you anticipate that alignment having any success in stopping the run? And if your anticipating a pass, how do you expect to pressure the QB, even if you blitz it is still basically man on man schemes that nullify your defense and leave your DBs having to defend some future NFL WR. I just don't get it. You are doing one of two things when you play a 3 man front: 1. you are playing 3 superb DL that are "two gap" players. meaning they take on a defender head on, and can play either side of that defender, while holding ground or moving their player. These player can also eat up double teams and hold ground, freeing up LBs to make plays in the gap or rush the passer. OR 2. you have a sophisticated blitzing scheme from the LBs that disguises itself so you get pressure by confusing the OL into miss-assigning blockers. Your 3 DL are average, can only engage a single player or play a single gap so you build the LB blitz package around line stunts to open a lane to the QB or ball carrier. We have been choosing option "none of the above".
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