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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2017 4:37:19 GMT -8
“What I would take away from it, I think I matured as a player, learned more through the coaches’ eyes and understand why they get so frustrated at times,” Tinkle added. “This is probably the first time I could work on, really focus on my legs getting stronger since my senior year of high school. I feel like I got a lot more athletic and explosive, so a bunch of positives came out of (last year’s injury).” Tres TinkleTinkle said freshman forward Alfred Hollins has been "fully cleared" after an academic eligibility issue kept him from joining the team in Spain. Senior center Cheikh N'diaye, who did not travel as he completed his undergraduate degree, is not yet physically cleared to play. And sophomore power forward Ben Kone has been limited in workouts after tweaking his left knee last Friday, the same knee on which he had surgery to repair a torn ACL during his senior year of high school. Investigation and health news |
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Post by bill82 on Sept 29, 2017 14:39:10 GMT -8
Tinkle may want to clear the air regarding hiring parents or associates of top recruits. That is one of the aspects of the FBI investigation. It would seem someone is going to ask the question.
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Post by atownbeaver on Sept 29, 2017 15:31:06 GMT -8
Tinkle may want to clear the air regarding hiring parents or associates of top recruits. That is one of the aspects of the FBI investigation. It would seem someone is going to ask the question. well, HE himself is a parent, so that is done. Stephen Thompson, was a coach for 12 prior to being hired by OSU, including 9 years as a head coach at a lower division (DII) college. He was a good player at Syracuse and bounced around the NBA a couple years. His resume is sufficient to qualify him to be an assistant D-1 coach. It ain't like he was some volunteer boys and girls coach that was given a job here. And while he has been here, as far as i can tell he has been good. In the bare minimum, he is not a liability!!! Anybody would have to prove that Stephen Thompson was hired exclusively for access to his kids. It would be really hard to show that. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 29, 2017 17:03:11 GMT -8
Tinkle may want to clear the air regarding hiring parents or associates of top recruits. That is one of the aspects of the FBI investigation. It would seem someone is going to ask the question. Commercial bribery is not a crime in Oregon but is in 36 states, including Alabama, Arizona, California, and Kentucky. What is a crime in those states may not be a crime in Oregon. |
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Post by bill82 on Sept 30, 2017 0:43:47 GMT -8
Tinkle may want to clear the air regarding hiring parents or associates of top recruits. That is one of the aspects of the FBI investigation. It would seem someone is going to ask the question. well, HE himself is a parent, so that is done. Stephen Thompson, was a coach for 12 prior to being hired by OSU, including 9 years as a head coach at a lower division (DII) college. He was a good player at Syracuse and bounced around the NBA a couple years. His resume is sufficient to qualify him to be an assistant D-1 coach. It ain't like he was some volunteer boys and girls coach that was given a job here. And while he has been here, as far as i can tell he has been good. In the bare minimum, he is not a liability!!! Anybody would have to prove that Stephen Thompson was hired exclusively for access to his kids. It would be really hard to show that. My daughter went to the school where he last head coached before being fired (Cal State Los Angeles). At the time we had a family friend playing on a team in the same league so I followed him a bit before he came here. He was unemployed when Tinkle hired him and I never had the impression the two had a relationship before then. I was surprised by the hire given his record at CSULA and what little I knew of his team's play. I'm not suggesting foul play, just that the situation seems to fit the narrative of some of the investigations. If I were OSU, and if the investigations escalate, I might explain our shoe contract and anything else that is being targeted, rather than just give the typical "we are proud that we do things the right way" talking point. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2017 5:25:51 GMT -8
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Post by bennyskid on Oct 3, 2017 7:34:09 GMT -8
Was Senior unemployed when Tinkle hired him? His bio on osubeavers.com shows a 15-12 record at CSULA for 2013-14, and he came to OSU for 2014-15. I can't imagine CSULA fired him for a winning season (his fourth in a row). This is Div II, after all, and CSULA doesn't have quite the legacy of UCLA.
I just see a DivII coach making a career decision and a school making a low-risk hire. For Senior, OSU is his best path to a Div I, power conference job. If OSU becomes a consistent winner, he'll get a chance at a good DI school - a chance he'd probably never get had he stayed at CSULA. For OSU, he brought SoCal recruiting knowledge and ample experience - as good a resume as you ever see for an assistant.
Did the kids play a role? I am sure that helped score the job interview. But then again, going to the same church as Tinkle probably helped, too. But if that interview hadn't gone well, I doubt he'd be here.
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Post by bill82 on Oct 3, 2017 8:19:17 GMT -8
Was Senior unemployed when Tinkle hired him? His bio on osubeavers.com shows a 15-12 record at CSULA for 2013-14, and he came to OSU for 2014-15. I can't imagine CSULA fired him for a winning season (his fourth in a row). This is Div II, after all, and CSULA doesn't have quite the legacy of UCLA. I just see a DivII coach making a career decision and a school making a low-risk hire. For Senior, OSU is his best path to a Div I, power conference job. If OSU becomes a consistent winner, he'll get a chance at a good DI school - a chance he'd probably never get had he stayed at CSULA. For OSU, he brought SoCal recruiting knowledge and ample experience - as good a resume as you ever see for an assistant. Did the kids play a role? I am sure that helped score the job interview. But then again, going to the same church as Tinkle probably helped, too. But if that interview hadn't gone well, I doubt he'd be here. He was fired from CSULA. I buy the Los Angeles connections, but I don't get the feeling he is pulling in anyone. His starting salary here in 2014 was $135,000 per year. That was likely a raise from his head coaching gig. |
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Post by jdogge on Oct 3, 2017 8:57:22 GMT -8
Was Senior unemployed when Tinkle hired him? His bio on osubeavers.com shows a 15-12 record at CSULA for 2013-14, and he came to OSU for 2014-15. I can't imagine CSULA fired him for a winning season (his fourth in a row). This is Div II, after all, and CSULA doesn't have quite the legacy of UCLA. I just see a DivII coach making a career decision and a school making a low-risk hire. For Senior, OSU is his best path to a Div I, power conference job. If OSU becomes a consistent winner, he'll get a chance at a good DI school - a chance he'd probably never get had he stayed at CSULA. For OSU, he brought SoCal recruiting knowledge and ample experience - as good a resume as you ever see for an assistant. Did the kids play a role? I am sure that helped score the job interview. But then again, going to the same church as Tinkle probably helped, too. But if that interview hadn't gone well, I doubt he'd be here. He was fired from CSULA. I buy the Los Angeles connections, but I don't get the feeling he is pulling in anyone. His starting salary here in 2014 was $135,000 per year. That was likely a raise from his head coaching gig. So what? Look, if you want to denigrate an OSU coach, you can do that on the football board. |
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Post by atownbeaver on Oct 4, 2017 7:02:45 GMT -8
Was Senior unemployed when Tinkle hired him? His bio on osubeavers.com shows a 15-12 record at CSULA for 2013-14, and he came to OSU for 2014-15. I can't imagine CSULA fired him for a winning season (his fourth in a row). This is Div II, after all, and CSULA doesn't have quite the legacy of UCLA. I just see a DivII coach making a career decision and a school making a low-risk hire. For Senior, OSU is his best path to a Div I, power conference job. If OSU becomes a consistent winner, he'll get a chance at a good DI school - a chance he'd probably never get had he stayed at CSULA. For OSU, he brought SoCal recruiting knowledge and ample experience - as good a resume as you ever see for an assistant. Did the kids play a role? I am sure that helped score the job interview. But then again, going to the same church as Tinkle probably helped, too. But if that interview hadn't gone well, I doubt he'd be here. He was fired from CSULA. I buy the Los Angeles connections, but I don't get the feeling he is pulling in anyone. His starting salary here in 2014 was $135,000 per year. That was likely a raise from his head coaching gig. So what? 12 years as a coach, 9 years as a head coach, above .500 career record, college star, few years in NBA... That is his resume. Do you think that is not good enough to be our 3rd coach? does the fact he has two stellar kids that play ball HAVE to be the only possible reason Tinkle would hire him? |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Oct 4, 2017 7:32:03 GMT -8
There are PLENTY of previously fired head coaches that are excellent assistants.
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Post by bill82 on Oct 4, 2017 7:56:19 GMT -8
All good points. My original post was that OSU should clear the air about shoe contracts and recruiting. I don't like the "we do things the right way here" response. That always seems to come from people that don't do things the right way.
Explain how the shoe contract works at OSU and how/why we hired our current staff. Demonstrate how neither are related to recruiting. That is my point.
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Post by atownbeaver on Oct 4, 2017 11:22:54 GMT -8
All good points. My original post was that OSU should clear the air about shoe contracts and recruiting. I don't like the "we do things the right way here" response. That always seems to come from people that don't do things the right way. Explain how the shoe contract works at OSU and how/why we hired our current staff. Demonstrate how neither are related to recruiting. That is my point. What air does OSU have to clear? they are a public university and the Nike-Oregon State multi-sport deal is freely available on line to be viewed by anybody. The public may view the terms of that contract. Outside of program equipment. OSU Men's basketball has a $18,000 per year budget they can use on nikeelite.com to order apparel for the program. Whether or not that is excessive or not is up to you to decide. Last point. How on earth can you expect that hiring a coach or getting a shoe contract NOT be related to recruiting?you hire coaches kids want to play for AND that are good recruiters. that is how you win games! you get apparel deals and have hip and cool uniforms and swag to attract athletes to your program! it is ALWAYS about recruiting. Your apparel deals and coaching hires should always directly related to recruiting. The only question is whether or not OSU provides improper benefits that are not allowed by the NCAA. I doubt a publicly available, lawyer vetted apparel contract constitutes an improper benefit. They'd kind of be hiding in plain sight on that one. Hiring a qualified coach at arguably a bargain basement price is hardly an improper benefit. |
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