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Post by gobeavs92 on Sept 18, 2017 10:50:36 GMT -8
turning things around at this point.
First off, the staff and CGA need to come to grips with the fact that they are failing bad all around. I think then they all need to scale back the playbook on both sides and just get into the fundamentals again (contain, defeating blocks, pursuit angles, tackling, OL step/punch, blocking angles, hand placement- everything). One of the best defenses in the country several years ago was the Cincinnati Bearcats. When the media asked their D coordinator how they were so successful, he admitted that they ran zone defense about 85-90% of the time. They asked why? He said, it gets 11 sets of eyes to the football (Great quote and he is exactly right). Will that solve everything? No! But it was apparent to me, that this guy coached fundamentals really well because he could stay in a base and still create TOs and not give up points. The D line was stunting and slanting and creating pressure that way vs blitzing all of the time. I think in all phases they need to scale it back, do what you do well (don't reach too much) and after you show mastery of those basics, build on it! It's really a dire situation now because if they continue with what they have been doing, this will get uglier! Could put much more about this but no time now! Get Back To Basics!
Go Beavs!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2017 13:40:43 GMT -8
turning things around at this point. First off, the staff and CGA need to come to grips with the fact that they are failing bad all around. I think then they all need to scale back the playbook on both sides and just get into the fundamentals again (contain, defeating blocks, pursuit angles, tackling, OL step/punch, blocking angles, hand placement- everything). One of the best defenses in the country several years ago was the Cincinnati Bearcats. When the media asked their D coordinator how they were so successful, he admitted that they ran zone defense about 85-90% of the time. They asked why? He said, it gets 11 sets of eyes to the football (Great quote and he is exactly right). Will that solve everything? No! But it was apparent to me, that this guy coached fundamentals really well because he could stay in a base and still create TOs and not give up points. The D line was stunting and slanting and creating pressure that way vs blitzing all of the time. I think in all phases they need to scale it back, do what you do well (don't reach too much) and after you show mastery of those basics, build on it! It's really a dire situation now because if they continue with what they have been doing, this will get uglier! Could put much more about this but no time now! Get Back To Basics! Go Beavs! it's already 1/3 of the way into this campaign so i don't know how much they can change the schemes at this point. The time for that was back in spring ball. It does look like they tried some new D looks on Saturday. Big Jim Wilson was impressed in the post game with the 2-6 look they tried here and there. I think they are in try anything mode. Give these coaches that much credit, they know they are failing. Unlike some years past with Riley when the sh1t was seriously stinking and he went out of his way to deny it and keep stuff the same. No i am not saying i like what i am seeing or that Coach G is the sh(t. Just saying the coaches seem to be trying new stuff, probably out of desperation. That play where Pierce runs to the sideline and acts confused was kinda neat. |
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Post by kersting13 on Sept 18, 2017 14:37:06 GMT -8
They pretty much HAVE to change up the offense, because DG is a completely different kind of QB than Luton.
I'm still holding out hope that DG can show some of the promise he had as a Utah State sophomore, and show less of what he did in 2016.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Sept 18, 2017 14:41:05 GMT -8
The playbook already looks scaled back IMO
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Post by TheGlove on Sept 18, 2017 14:56:27 GMT -8
They pretty much HAVE to change up the offense, because DG is a completely different kind of QB than Luton. I'm still holding out hope that DG can show some of the promise he had as a Utah State sophomore, and show less of what he did in 2016. At the very least, DG is a more potent threat to run on the zone read play. However, I'd hate to see him hurt. I hope he knows how to slide feet first! |
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Post by gobeavs92 on Sept 18, 2017 15:50:42 GMT -8
turning things around at this point. First off, the staff and CGA need to come to grips with the fact that they are failing bad all around. I think then they all need to scale back the playbook on both sides and just get into the fundamentals again (contain, defeating blocks, pursuit angles, tackling, OL step/punch, blocking angles, hand placement- everything). One of the best defenses in the country several years ago was the Cincinnati Bearcats. When the media asked their D coordinator how they were so successful, he admitted that they ran zone defense about 85-90% of the time. They asked why? He said, it gets 11 sets of eyes to the football (Great quote and he is exactly right). Will that solve everything? No! But it was apparent to me, that this guy coached fundamentals really well because he could stay in a base and still create TOs and not give up points. The D line was stunting and slanting and creating pressure that way vs blitzing all of the time. I think in all phases they need to scale it back, do what you do well (don't reach too much) and after you show mastery of those basics, build on it! It's really a dire situation now because if they continue with what they have been doing, this will get uglier! Could put much more about this but no time now! Get Back To Basics! Go Beavs! it's already 1/3 of the way into this campaign so i don't know how much they can change the schemes at this point. The time for that was back in spring ball. It does look like they tried some new D looks on Saturday. Big Jim Wilson was impressed in the post game with the 2-6 look they tried here and there. I think they are in try anything mode. Give these coaches that much credit, they know they are failing. Unlike some years past with Riley when the sh1t was seriously stinking and he went out of his way to deny it and keep stuff the same. No i am not saying i like what i am seeing or that Coach G is the sh(t. Just saying the coaches seem to be trying new stuff, probably out of desperation. That play where Pierce runs to the sideline and acts confused was kinda neat. I'm not saying you "change schemes". Big difference. You scale back on what you are doing. This includes offense too. They don't need whole sale changes. They kept elements of the Read Option even with Luton in there. One of the things this offense has consistently done, besides not been productive is WAY too much shifting and motion to run a single play. If you are trying to run a Spread Option offense, you cannot establish a tempo if you are setting, shifting, then running motion, that is not only slow as hell but you're giving your offense a chance to commit a procedural penalty which happened a lot especially in the first season. Cut out some of that stuff. Very little was effective anyway. Stick to what you do well. With DG in there, they run basic read option pretty well from the gun. You can use different formations and even motions once and a while to disguise but every other play is overkill. I rarely see us rolling the pocket out (doesn't even need to be a full roll). You can flood the zone, run receiver screen coming back under, sprint draw, throwback plays, so much out of very basic roll action. It also keeps the QB getting pasted in the pocket and a guy like DG turns it into a RPO (run pass option), nothing's there, take off! You should not have to change schemes for this. There are probably calls in place for some of these things (there should be, but I guess I shouldn't assume with this staff). For those saying that the playbook "is already scaled back", I disagree. Not that it's overly difficult but when you give guys more to think about (whether it be motions, shifting, pass pro, etc) you get just that, guys just thinking on the field. Mental errors occur, which lead to penalties, miscommunications, so on! Defensively, as I was saying before, stay in more base. If you stay base in that scheme, you could actually have some different personnel play a boundary side cornerback for instance (a safety even a quicker LB) in cover 2 maybe even Cloud 3. At this point, we need more eyes on the ball. Contain (the edge needs to be set) and the DBs need to keep everything in front of them. And I'm going to sound like a broken record but if we would re route some receivers, that should disrupt the timing of some of these wide open seam routes and even some of the fades on the outside. Basic football! Maintain your pass rush lane and contain responsibilities, LBs read step and fill(run) or drop for pass (re route and give calls to the secondary) Secondary read step but stay deeper than the deepest. These guys should be "secondary contain" not primary and stay on top. After that it's just about defending blocks, taking good pursuit angles and good tackling in space! Not just hitting but TACKLING! This is what I am talking about! This is basic! This IMO, is exactly what this team needs to do. Other than that, if there's no effort, it doesn't matter what you do! Go Beavs! |
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