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Post by smizni on Jan 17, 2016 14:55:17 GMT -8
Wow... a bad loss away from home in the Pac-12 means that you are not a tournament team apparently.
Let me paraphrase what I have read from many people on the board, if you lose and do not look good, you are not a tournament team and should just throw in the towel and prepare for next season.
Using this as the measure these are the teams in the Pac that should follow that advice: Washington State, Washington, UCLA, USC, Stanford, Cal, Arizona State, Arizona, Utah, Colorado, Oregon, and Oregon State.
I guess that is everyone in the Pac-12.
Now to my real point. The Pac-12 is tough this year. Not a lot of separation from top to bottom. Home court is huge. Everyone will have games, and/or weekends, where they look bad away from home. Two wins could easily be the difference between 2nd and 8th.
What I am looking for with this team tonight is how they respond after a tough loss. If they come with energy and play a complete game I will be happy. They may still lose, but winning on the road is tough to do.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 17, 2016 16:15:59 GMT -8
Wow... a bad loss away from home in the Pac-12 means that you are not a tournament team apparently. Let me paraphrase what I have read from many people on the board, if you lose and do not look good, you are not a tournament team and should just throw in the towel and prepare for next season. Using this as the measure these are the teams in the Pac that should follow that advice: Washington State, Washington, UCLA, USC, Stanford, Cal, Arizona State, Arizona, Utah, Colorado, Oregon, and Oregon State. I guess that is everyone in the Pac-12. Now to my real point. The Pac-12 is tough this year. Not a lot of separation from top to bottom. Home court is huge. Everyone will have games, and/or weekends, where they look bad away from home. Two wins could easily be the difference between 2nd and 8th. What I am looking for with this team tonight is how they respond after a tough loss. If they come with energy and play a complete game I will be happy. They may still lose, but winning on the road is tough to do. I'm only speaking for myself/my opinion... this last loss has zero to do with my thoughts. It only reinforced my initial belief, this was never a tourney team. How many times in the past 5-7 years have we been decent in the preseason and fell off dramatically in league play? 13-14' 8-4/8-10 12-13' 10-3/4-14 11-12' 10-2/9-9 etc... etc... YES we have a great group of young frosh. So does almost every Pac12 team. We are still in lower half/maybe third of the talent base and need to follow this class with at least two more upper tier classes. These Freshman's Jr year should have "dance" expectations if that happens and nothing significantly negative happens... transfers out, injuries, etc. To me a lot of the negativity arises when too high of expectations are spouted when a group has earned none of it yet, and then those lofty goals of forum experts are not met. We have a good coaching staff... hard to keep such a staff together for long, so get a couple more recruiting classes here before they leave for their own HC jobs. We have a good FIRST class... now we have to add to it like other elite programs do. Go Beavs... pull off a road win |
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Post by beaverdreams on Jan 17, 2016 17:23:44 GMT -8
Bill Walton would disagree with you. lol.....
Nah, I hear that....I think it's just frustrating, because we all see glimpses of what they're capable of.....but problem is consistency, which, to go along with your point is a hallmark problem of young teams. I just think it'd be a shame to not get to at least some post season action with an outstanding player like Payton on the roster. I think it's similar to when we lost jared Cunningham to the NBA a year early...as the next season with him in there, we may have made a tourney run. The stars just don't align for the Beavs, yet again it would seem.
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Jan 17, 2016 19:32:57 GMT -8
Need to start playing the right players down the stretch. We cant score or get a call inside the last 5 minutes and Thompson is nowhere to be found. They're killing us inside and Reid is playing center. (And you saw how badly THAT ended). Olaf must be the greatest practice player in history to keep getting big minutes during every collapse we have. He can't defend an open door w a rifle
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Post by beaverdreams on Jan 17, 2016 19:57:43 GMT -8
Well....at least the women took care of business....jeez. Maybe we get Hamblin in there to teach Olaf some defense.
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Jan 17, 2016 20:31:12 GMT -8
Well....at least the women took care of business....jeez. Maybe we get Hamblin in there to teach Olaf some defense. Lol.....RUTHless would beat him down |
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