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Post by ee1990 on Sept 13, 2017 16:26:25 GMT -8
What a godawful decision. I could rant about the culture/ecosystem of athletic departments for an hour. Sh!it is broken when a guy who is 16-11 gets another 3 million added to what will likely become his buyout. What kind of idiot AD does this? They create weakness from a position of power. It's like my credit score dropping 150 points and my bank calling me up to give me a better rate out of the goodness of their hearts. Stupid. The AD didn't... The Prez of the University did!!! Could be for several reasons. But after a loss it might have been a giant "EFF YOU" to some big booster(s) all over MR and/or Diaco. The extension now and his mention of again in December sounds like a power play to me. Fair enough. Everyone love CMR for his personality, yet Diaco is widely known/respected for being a c***.
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Post by atownbeaver on Sept 13, 2017 16:33:14 GMT -8
Riley's offense isn't easy to install and his turnaround is never going to happen overnight. Nebraska is happy with the way Coach conducts himself and if they can the defense rebuilt under Diaco they are going to win a lot of games. This AD isn't an idiot, he knows what he's got and understands the type of program Riley is trying to build, and he's given him a public vote of confidence. Riley's offense depends upon finding an NFL-quality QB. He hasn't found one yet but when he and Danny do, watch out. Nebraska is gonna put up a ton of points. Lee might be that QB eventually. He didn't look sharp versus the ducks and still almost brought his team back from a big deficit. One of the downsides to Riley's offense is getting a new QB up to speed, I think that will prove true for Lee as well and once he's up to speed they might surprise some teams down the stretch. Looking back now, the downside of a slow non-conference start seems rather insignificant compared to the upside of conference wins and upsets. What Riley has never had before is two highly rated(I think both 4 star) QB's behind his starter. Getting some time to practice and develop in the system, when they get their chance on the field it will be interesting to see if they can step in right away and play like a starter or if they will struggle through a rookie learning curve. Lee is showing us exactly what most talented young QBs showed early with Riley... Lots of INTs. QBs throw lots of INTs because Riley runs big boy football offense (I couldn't help myself). Which is to say, Riley runs a pro offense with a on the fly WR route adaptations based on defensive alignment, and timing routes. Lee needs to throw certain routes, like hooks and comebacks and quick outs before the WR breaks. if he cuts inside instead of outside... or if Lee throws inside instead of out, that is an INT. There are multiple ways the WR and QB can not be on the same page, because both players need to independently and silently make the same reads and recognize the change. then of course, there is just bad luck. on that early pass, Lee put the ball perfectly on target in tight coverage. It bounced off Morgan jr's face mask, into the air, INT. Do we have any doubt a Hass, or a Wheaton or a Cooks was gonna make that play? Of course Riley can put training wheels in place. He can limit the possible changes, or he can say none are allowed. run the routes as called. but eventually you have to take the training wheels off and let them ride. It is what practice is for. and Practice can't cover it all. you just need repetition in the same offense with the same guys to build the chemistry and the trust. So young QBs take their lumps with Riley. it is what it is.
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Post by baseba1111 on Sept 13, 2017 16:33:52 GMT -8
The AD didn't... The Prez of the University did!!! Could be for several reasons. But after a loss it might have been a giant "EFF YOU" to some big booster(s) all over MR and/or Diaco. The extension now and his mention of again in December sounds like a power play to me. Fair enough. Everyone love CMR for his personality, yet Diaco is widely known/respected for being a c***. Well banker was no fuzzy kitty... and CAV... well at least his foul mouthed yelling was sort of funny coming from the "over sized fire hydrant".
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 13, 2017 16:46:48 GMT -8
Fair enough. Everyone love CMR for his personality, yet Diaco is widely known/respected for being a c***. Well banker was no fuzzy kitty... and CAV... well at least his foul mouthed yelling was sort of funny coming from the "over sized fire hydrant". Remembering better times: The f#*&er's going to scramble back there. Get off the ground, and go get his a$$.
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Post by atownbeaver on Sept 13, 2017 16:55:59 GMT -8
Fair enough. Everyone love CMR for his personality, yet Diaco is widely known/respected for being a c***. Well banker was no fuzzy kitty... and CAV... well at least his foul mouthed yelling was sort of funny coming from the "over sized fire hydrant". All the inflammatory comments about the straws that broke the camels back between Riley and the administration was from Banker. He was generally a pretty salty fellow.
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Post by atownbeaver on Sept 13, 2017 16:59:33 GMT -8
Well banker was no fuzzy kitty... and CAV... well at least his foul mouthed yelling was sort of funny coming from the "over sized fire hydrant". Remembering better times: The f#*&er's going to scramble back there. Get off the ground, and go get his a$$. god... it almost hurts to watch it. All I can think about is how far we have fallen.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Sept 13, 2017 17:18:31 GMT -8
Remembering better times: The f#*&er's going to scramble back there. Get off the ground, and go get his a$$. god... it almost hurts to watch it. All I can think about is how far we have fallen. The offense looks so seamless and fast and the defense looks hard-hitting and mean. We are now Washington under Tyrone Willingham. Hapless. We give other teams highlight reel material and not the other way around.
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Post by fridaynightlights on Sept 13, 2017 17:41:52 GMT -8
For the most part this is a recruiting extension. Unless a coach is dead man walking - which Riley is not - they almost always have at least 4 years left on their contract. Recruits want to be assured that the coach they commit to will be their for the period of their stay. Of course everyone knows the coach can leave early or be fired before the contract is up. But if a head coach doesn't have at least 4 years on his contract it will be used as negative recruiting against him. This is hardly a vote of confidence, but more of we don't want to handcuff the program in recruiting.
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 13, 2017 17:46:35 GMT -8
Well banker was no fuzzy kitty... and CAV... well at least his foul mouthed yelling was sort of funny coming from the "over sized fire hydrant". Remembering better times: The f#*&er's going to scramble back there. Get off the ground, and go get his a$$. And people say it isn't talent.
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Post by ag87 on Sept 13, 2017 17:48:10 GMT -8
Agree - Gary Andersen = Tyrone Willingham
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 13, 2017 19:00:48 GMT -8
This is your love for Riley talking. "if they can get the defense rebuilt under Diaco" is more than a moderately large "if". They fired a guy who had 7 straight 9+ win seasons. Why are they rebuilding? Riley is now 16-12. Bo wasn't fired because he didn't win enough... Bo was fired because literally everybody hated him. Boosters couldn't stand him. he was an asshole. Everybody loves Riley the person. His Aw-Schucks demeanor is as mid-west Nebraska as you can possibly get. Booster like him, he is friendly and personable. Y'all talk like I don't know. And then Riley went 5-7.
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Post by beavadelic on Sept 13, 2017 19:33:15 GMT -8
Bo wasn't fired because he didn't win enough... Bo was fired because literally everybody hated him. Boosters couldn't stand him. he was an asshole. Everybody loves Riley the person. His Aw-Schucks demeanor is as mid-west Nebraska as you can possibly get. Booster like him, he is friendly and personable. Y'all talk like I don't know. And then Riley went 5-7. Yet, even that team - with a running back playing QB because of the lack of a passing game under Pelini - got to go bowling (lucky, but they DID), and ended up beating UCLA. Most Beaver fans would be thrilled to have those circumstances occur by season 4 or 5 of his replacement's tenure here. I'm not trying to disparage you or any other Riley-detractors here. You are entitled to your opinion just as I am. However, when people put aside their dislike for awshucks. Get over their frustration for not seeing him blow a gasket on the sidelines during adversity, or simply feeling entitled to being a 9 or 10 win team each year (standards that we established because of what HE did for our program, incidentally), they have got to see that the guy was a really fine coach. We were lucky to have him. It wasn't bad for him or us that he moved on and we had a shot at something fresh and new, but I'm increasingly feeling that it would have been far better for our program for him to have stayed. He fit here. He was well aware of our financial challenges and was content being woefully underpaid. I have no doubt that had he stayed we would have had some 9-3 seasons, some 5-7 seasons, and a lot of 7-5 action. In a word, we would continue to be relevant, and our fan base as a whole would still be caring.
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Post by ee1990 on Sept 13, 2017 19:50:59 GMT -8
Y'all talk like I don't know. And then Riley went 5-7. Yet, even that team - with a running back playing QB because of the lack of a passing game under Pelini - got to go bowling (lucky, but they DID), and ended up beating UCLA. Most Beaver fans would be thrilled to have those circumstances occur by season 4 or 5 of his replacement's tenure here. I'm not trying to disparage you or any other Riley-detractors here. You are entitled to your opinion just as I am. However, when people put aside their dislike for awshucks. Get over their frustration for not seeing him blow a gasket on the sidelines during adversity, or simply feeling entitled to being a 9 or 10 win team each year (standards that we established because of what HE did for our program, incidentally), they have got to see that the guy was a really fine coach. We were lucky to have him. It wasn't bad for him or us that he moved on and we had a shot at something fresh and new, but I'm increasingly feeling that it would have been far better for our program for him to have stayed. He fit here. He was well aware of our financial challenges and was content being woefully underpaid. I have no doubt that had he stayed we would have had some 9-3 seasons, some 5-7 seasons, and a lot of 7-5 action. In a word, we would continue to be relevant, and our fan base as a whole would still be caring. I don't even know what point you're trying to make, it's devoid of logic. Nebraska had won 9+ games 7 straight years until CMR went 5-7.
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Post by baseba1111 on Sept 13, 2017 20:23:16 GMT -8
Yet, even that team - with a running back playing QB because of the lack of a passing game under Pelini - got to go bowling (lucky, but they DID), and ended up beating UCLA. Most Beaver fans would be thrilled to have those circumstances occur by season 4 or 5 of his replacement's tenure here. I'm not trying to disparage you or any other Riley-detractors here. You are entitled to your opinion just as I am. However, when people put aside their dislike for awshucks. Get over their frustration for not seeing him blow a gasket on the sidelines during adversity, or simply feeling entitled to being a 9 or 10 win team each year (standards that we established because of what HE did for our program, incidentally), they have got to see that the guy was a really fine coach. We were lucky to have him. It wasn't bad for him or us that he moved on and we had a shot at something fresh and new, but I'm increasingly feeling that it would have been far better for our program for him to have stayed. He fit here. He was well aware of our financial challenges and was content being woefully underpaid. I have no doubt that had he stayed we would have had some 9-3 seasons, some 5-7 seasons, and a lot of 7-5 action. In a word, we would continue to be relevant, and our fan base as a whole would still be caring. I don't even know what point you're trying to make, it's devoid of logic. Nebraska had won 9+ games 7 straight years until CMR went 5-7. But, wait... he needs time... needs 3-4 years to build his system... needs "his" players... the cupboard was bare... implementing a completely different offense... did I miss any that I've heard regarding GAG? Yet MR beat a UCLA team that blew us out at home 41-0. But...MR must have had inherited superior players?! Which is more "pathetic" talking ucks or MR? 😁
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Post by nforkbeav on Sept 13, 2017 20:27:26 GMT -8
Yet, even that team - with a running back playing QB because of the lack of a passing game under Pelini - got to go bowling (lucky, but they DID), and ended up beating UCLA. Most Beaver fans would be thrilled to have those circumstances occur by season 4 or 5 of his replacement's tenure here. I'm not trying to disparage you or any other Riley-detractors here. You are entitled to your opinion just as I am. However, when people put aside their dislike for awshucks. Get over their frustration for not seeing him blow a gasket on the sidelines during adversity, or simply feeling entitled to being a 9 or 10 win team each year (standards that we established because of what HE did for our program, incidentally), they have got to see that the guy was a really fine coach. We were lucky to have him. It wasn't bad for him or us that he moved on and we had a shot at something fresh and new, but I'm increasingly feeling that it would have been far better for our program for him to have stayed. He fit here. He was well aware of our financial challenges and was content being woefully underpaid. I have no doubt that had he stayed we would have had some 9-3 seasons, some 5-7 seasons, and a lot of 7-5 action. In a word, we would continue to be relevant, and our fan base as a whole would still be caring. I don't even know what point you're trying to make, it's devoid of logic. Nebraska had won 9+ games 7 straight years until CMR went 5-7. A second grader could understand his point. If it went over your head, pre-second grade intelligence is the only logical answer? The intent of your second sentence sums that verdict up.
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