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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 19:49:57 GMT -8
Let's say that the Beavs get smashed by Fleck's Gophers. And let's say that the Ducks smash Riley's Cornhuskers. And let's say that these are the last straws for both universities and OSU lets GA go and Nebraska lets Riley go. Would we rush out to try to get Riley back? Why or why not? wtf really? WE FIRED HIM FOR A REASON. i didn't start this fire but i sure as hell will spray it with every bottle of hairspray that orangeattack keeps in his garage.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Sept 4, 2017 20:43:19 GMT -8
wtf really? WE FIRED HIM FOR A REASON. OSU didn't fire him. But blowcheese and others did.
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Post by baseba1111 on Sept 4, 2017 21:36:02 GMT -8
Let's say that the Beavs get smashed by Fleck's Gophers. And let's say that the Ducks smash Riley's Cornhuskers. And let's say that these are the last straws for both universities and OSU lets GA go and Nebraska lets Riley go. Would we rush out to try to get Riley back? Why or why not? wtf really? WE FIRED HIM FOR A REASON. i didn't start this fire but i sure as hell will spray it with every bottle of hairspray that orangeattack keeps in his garage. LMAO... fired? Perfect...
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Post by beaverbeliever on Sept 4, 2017 22:31:27 GMT -8
So in your (not going to happen) scenario, you would suggest we should go out and hire someone who failed at Nebraska, despite all of those resources? He won a bowl game over a P12 his first season. Won 9 games second season. Is undefeated this season. If that's failure, we could sure use some failure like that around here right about now. He took over for a coach who was deemed a failure despite never winning fewer than 9 games, and proceeded to go 6-7 in that bowl-winning season. He just managed to beat Arkansas State at home. You may think the above is wonderful, but the expectations in Lincoln are different.
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Post by beavsaregood on Sept 4, 2017 22:47:41 GMT -8
I'd have kept him, but it's time for a fresh start if Coach A doesn't work out. I'm starting to think no coach should stay put longer than 6-8 years unless they are winning championships. If for anything, to keep their careers a challenge. I think if Riley can survive this season he'll be set for 4 or 5 pretty good seasons and can pass things on to someone. Of the "older" coaches, I'd look at Tedford. I think he'll be a hot property after this season and I think he's got anotoher 6-7 year good stretch in the tank before he should move on. If that couldn't happen I'd shoot for someone in their early 40's that probably wants to use OSU as a 3-4 year stepping stone. They'll want to win, and win fast. If they're successful, try to keep them for and extra 3-4 years then do it again. I'm thinking the "coach for life" mentality sounds great but in reality might lead to some complacency on everybody's part- coaches, schools and fans. I can be a Tedhead. After a turrible season under CGA, I'll take anything that seems reasonable.
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Post by nforkbeav on Sept 5, 2017 17:00:12 GMT -8
He won a bowl game over a P12 his first season. Won 9 games second season. Is undefeated this season. If that's failure, we could sure use some failure like that around here right about now. He took over for a coach who was deemed a failure despite never winning fewer than 9 games, and proceeded to go 6-7 in that bowl-winning season. He just managed to beat Arkansas State at home. You may think the above is wonderful, but the expectations in Lincoln are different. Quit making stuff up. Bo wasn't deemed a failure, he was deemed an embarrassment. It wasn't his record that got him fired, although getting blown out in record fashion by Wisky and not winning a conference title didn't help. What did him in was his lack of self control, sideline and post game antics. With a team who admittedly did not buy into the coaching change early in the first season, MR was literally 3 plays away from 9 wins that first year. A completed hail marry, a time expiring fg, and a boneheaded do my own thing play from Armstrong. Sure expectations are higher, but so are football IQ's in Lincoln so even though there will always be a lot of vocal criticism with anything less than perfection, MR has banked a lot of good will among the Nebraska faithful. They can see the fundamental changes that are already taking shape, the steadily upgraded talent, and now a QB who can lead that team to some big wins.
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Post by joeavocado on Sept 5, 2017 18:29:49 GMT -8
Riley said today that Nebraska is probably his last stop, no matter how long it lasts, he's thinking it's his last coaching gig.
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Post by spudbeaver on Sept 5, 2017 20:22:48 GMT -8
He took over for a coach who was deemed a failure despite never winning fewer than 9 games, and proceeded to go 6-7 in that bowl-winning season. He just managed to beat Arkansas State at home. You may think the above is wonderful, but the expectations in Lincoln are different. Quit making stuff up. Bo wasn't deemed a failure, he was deemed an embarrassment. It wasn't his record that got him fired, although getting blown out in record fashion by Wisky and not winning a conference title didn't help. What did him in was his lack of self control, sideline and post game antics. With a team who admittedly did not buy into the coaching change early in the first season, MR was literally 3 plays away from 9 wins that first year. A completed hail marry, a time expiring fg, and a boneheaded do my own thing play from Armstrong. Sure expectations are higher, but so are football IQ's in Lincoln so even though there will always be a lot of vocal criticism with anything less than perfection, MR has banked a lot of good will among the Nebraska faithful. They can see the fundamental changes that are already taking shape, the steadily upgraded talent, and now a QB who can lead that team to some big wins. You're right. But many people would call the behaviors and reasons you point out for the firing indeed make him a failure.
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