avidbeaver
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Post by avidbeaver on Sept 2, 2017 18:48:47 GMT -8
They can't stop anything the last two weeks. I have seen some complaints about the offense. The offense is moving the ball. The offense isn't a well oiled machine but at least they move the ball and score points. Luton is doing a good job. I don't see a problem with the offense going forward. The defense is rotten to the core right now.
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Post by baseba1111 on Sept 2, 2017 18:56:12 GMT -8
They can't stop anything the last two weeks. I have seen some complaints about the offense. The offense is moving the ball. The offense isn't a well oiled machine but at least they move the ball and score points. Luton is doing a good job. I don't see a problem with the offense going forward. The defense is rotten to the core right now. So... you don't have an issue with an OL that can't open holes vs two inferior defenses and only put up (4) TDs vs PSU when we actually play Pac12 teams? We're averaging 31 pts/game vs these teams. Do you think we come close to that vs Pac12 teams? Especially when we'll have the pressure of having to score with this crap D. |
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Post by steinlager on Sept 2, 2017 19:35:59 GMT -8
Think back to the one constant for all good teams we have had in the past.
A good defense that stops the run and pressured quarterbacks with a four man rush while dropping seven into coverage. I had hoped our defense would be much improved but so far not so much.
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Post by 56chevy on Sept 2, 2017 19:40:32 GMT -8
It looks like they don't have the personnel they need to successfully run the defensive scheme they have put in place. I think they will come to the same conclusion and make adjustments.
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Post by boiler on Sept 2, 2017 20:28:56 GMT -8
Yeah the defense is awful....mostly the line. But Luton has NOT been "doing a good job" He has a scatter gun of an arm, rarely accurate. I am watching WSU right now where Falk has completed 20 passes in a row! At least Garretson brings a run threat, but he is mostly a short passer who throws a hard difficult to catch pass. Tedford is delighted with McMarion...says he has a great arm. It is the O-line inability to run block that is nearly as awful as the D-line. After 2 games the team looks like it needs better coaching everywhere.
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Post by spudbeaver on Sept 2, 2017 20:35:03 GMT -8
They can't stop anything the last two weeks. I have seen some complaints about the offense. The offense is moving the ball. The offense isn't a well oiled machine but at least they move the ball and score points. Luton is doing a good job. I don't see a problem with the offense going forward. The defense is rotten to the core right now. Huh. Thanks. Usually you have to pay to get this sort of insight. Sorry, cranky. |
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Post by avidbeaver on Sept 2, 2017 20:36:06 GMT -8
They can't stop anything the last two weeks. I have seen some complaints about the offense. The offense is moving the ball. The offense isn't a well oiled machine but at least they move the ball and score points. Luton is doing a good job. I don't see a problem with the offense going forward. The defense is rotten to the core right now. So... you don't have an issue with an OL that can't open holes vs two inferior defenses and only put up (4) TDs vs PSU when we actually play Pac12 teams? We're averaging 31 pts/game vs these teams. Do you think we come close to that vs Pac12 teams? Especially when we'll have the pressure of having to score with this crap D. Didn't say there wasn't issues with the offense. I just feel going forward the offense will get better. Yes there is more pressure on the offense with the pathetic defense. The offense will look worse than it is if that defense doesn't improve. I just feel the offense will get better. Now that could be slowed by the pathetic defense. |
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Post by spudbeaver on Sept 2, 2017 20:36:32 GMT -8
Yeah the defense is awful....mostly the line. But Luton has NOT been "doing a good job" He has a scatter gun of an arm, rarely accurate. I am watching WSU right now where Falk has completed 20 passes in a row! At least Garretson brings a run threat, but he is mostly a short passer who throws a hard difficult to catch pass. Tedford is delighted with McMarion...says he has a great arm. It is the O-line inability to run block that is nearly as awful as the D-line. After 2 games the team looks like it needs better coaching everywhere. So 70% is not accurate now? 20 in a row or you suck!! |
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Post by kersting13 on Sept 2, 2017 21:29:23 GMT -8
Yeah the defense is awful....mostly the line. But Luton has NOT been "doing a good job" He has a scatter gun of an arm, rarely accurate. I am watching WSU right now where Falk has completed 20 passes in a row! At least Garretson brings a run threat, but he is mostly a short passer who throws a hard difficult to catch pass. Tedford is delighted with McMarion... says he has a great arm. It is the O-line inability to run block that is nearly as awful as the D-line. After 2 games the team looks like it needs better coaching everywhere. How can that possibly be? I was told by experts right here on this site that McMaryion throws like a high school girl and can't hold Luton's jock. Who the f*#k is Jeff Tedford? SaveSave |
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Post by nforkbeav on Sept 2, 2017 21:53:07 GMT -8
Yeah the defense is awful....mostly the line. But Luton has NOT been "doing a good job" He has a scatter gun of an arm, rarely accurate. I am watching WSU right now where Falk has completed 20 passes in a row! At least Garretson brings a run threat, but he is mostly a short passer who throws a hard difficult to catch pass. Tedford is delighted with McMarion... says he has a great arm. It is the O-line inability to run block that is nearly as awful as the D-line. After 2 games the team looks like it needs better coaching everywhere. How can that possibly be? I was told by experts right here on this site that McMaryion throws like a high school girl and can't hold Luton's jock. Who the f*#k is Jeff Tedford? SaveSave3M 6 of 7 today 86% for 102 yards 2 TD's long of 45 , 1 carry for 7 yards |
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Post by gobeavs92 on Sept 2, 2017 22:10:48 GMT -8
It is the defense but more specifically it's 3 main areas:
The Defensive Line is not good enough from a talent/effort standpoint! They are not getting any tackles, TFLs, Sacks or even pressures. Continuing to run 3 man pressure with that group is pointless as well!
They are not "containing" the edges! This, according to a guy named Bill Belichick (you may have heard of him) is the most important thing to do on defense! I completely agree! If you let any decent running back/ball carrier consistently break contain, you're asking for a long day on defense. Usually, you will not win the game either!
Said it once, said it a million times now! Nobody on defense is re-routing! That seam TD throw by PSU was an example of why re-routes are needed. Some throws are based on timing and some are not but if you disrupt the route by getting hands on the receiver as they are starting their route, it disrupts both timing and non timing routes. It also allows more time for defenders to get into place to make a play on the football.
Besides the D Line, these are basic football fundamentals that any HS team has, let alone a D1 collegiate team "should" have!
Go Beavs!
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Post by zebraworks on Sept 2, 2017 23:29:11 GMT -8
at least if Marcus does go on to really play well at Fresno we can know it's all about GA and McGiven. I have had a suspicion that they do things that are not real "balanced" as far as players are concerned which would be extremely toxic to the team.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Sept 3, 2017 4:02:18 GMT -8
It looks like they don't have the personnel they need to successfully run the defensive scheme they have put in place. I think they will come to the same conclusion and make adjustments. You must have been sitting behind Atown yesterday |
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