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Post by eugenedave on Jun 20, 2017 6:39:51 GMT -8
Thompson or Razz?
I could make an argument for either. but I'll leave that for others to speculate.
In the meanwhile, I have three days off in Omaha. What to do, what to do?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 6:46:12 GMT -8
My guess...Thompson. Certainly by now his nerves have calmed a bit and we need to him to be successful. And he needs to be successful.
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Post by joecool on Jun 20, 2017 6:52:56 GMT -8
Thompson starts, Mulholland, and then Rasmussen to close it out.
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Post by obf on Jun 20, 2017 7:04:35 GMT -8
I don't think Eisert has pitched in a couple weeks, he needs some work too!
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Post by zeroposter on Jun 20, 2017 7:08:49 GMT -8
Tough fan question. No clue. I am still thinking that Nate should have the pen warming up in the 3rd yesterday. Lololol. Fehmel has sure amazed. And he pitched somewhat differently than against Vandy. I thought he threw a lot more fastballs for strikes than the previous week. Against Vandy, the fastball was just a waste pitch in a favorable count.
Nate's pitch calling was amazing.
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Post by vhalum92 on Jun 20, 2017 7:12:52 GMT -8
I'm 100% behind the decision that Casey and Nate make. But here are the pros and cons in my mind.... Jake would be on short rest and then what would his role be in the final 3 game series? (yes, it is time to start setting up the pitching for the Championship round!). I'd rather see Jake rest or pitch only an inning or two to set him up for the Game 1 starter on Monday. Razz - Great option but I'm kind of liking him lurking as the closer or ready for 4-5 innings of solid relief. I'd prefer to get a lefty SP in the mix... and I'd go with Eisart or get this.... Mulholand  Whoever goes on Friday probably won't pitch at all till Tuesday or Wednesday in relief. Just my $0.02 but I walk with Casey, all the confidence in the world he will figure it out! |
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Post by nabeav on Jun 20, 2017 7:47:09 GMT -8
Jake only threw 78 pitches Saturday, so the idea that he wouldn't be at full strength Friday doesn't really make sense to me. That being said, his arm could just be pretty tired. He's given up 4+ runs in three of his last four starts, has only averaged six innings per start over that time frame, and has been throwing an average of 17 pitches an inning. Maybe skipping him Friday and holding him off until Monday (or even Tuesday) is the best idea. If I were coach (and we can all thank God I'm not), I'd be pretty tempted to start Drew, let him get through the order one time, then go some combination of Eisert/Tweet/Mulholland/Britton/Englebreckt from there on out. Do that, and I think you're set up for Thompson/Fehmel/All Hands on Deck in the champ. series, and you've saved your flexibility with Ras to use him in whatever situation (start, middle relief, close) you need him the most.
And yes, I'm fully anticipating a win Friday. I think we just took LSU's soul last night.
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Post by abureid on Jun 20, 2017 8:08:27 GMT -8
Thompson or Razz? I could make an argument for either. but I'll leave that for others to speculate. In the meanwhile, I have three days off in Omaha. What to do, what to do? Go to the Zoo, that's what champions do on Taco Tuesday |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 8:38:41 GMT -8
Jake only threw 78 pitches Saturday, so the idea that he wouldn't be at full strength Friday doesn't really make sense to me. That being said, his arm could just be pretty tired. He's given up 4+ runs in three of his last four starts, has only averaged six innings per start over that time frame, and has been throwing an average of 17 pitches an inning. Maybe skipping him Friday and holding him off until Monday (or even Tuesday) is the best idea. If I were coach (and we can all thank God I'm not), I'd be pretty tempted to start Drew, let him get through the order one time, then go some combination of Eisert/Tweet/Mulholland/Britton/Englebreckt from there on out. Do that, and I think you're set up for Thompson/Fehmel/All Hands on Deck in the champ. series, and you've saved your flexibility with Ras to use him in whatever situation (start, middle relief, close) you need him the most. And yes, I'm fully anticipating a win Friday. I think we just took LSU's soul last night. Don't you think FSU will stomp the grapes out of LSU? I think FSU feels they blew one. If beavs play FSU, just error free ball wins it. And throw strikes. Eisert seems to be good at throwing strikes:-) |
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Post by nabeav on Jun 20, 2017 8:43:54 GMT -8
Jake only threw 78 pitches Saturday, so the idea that he wouldn't be at full strength Friday doesn't really make sense to me. That being said, his arm could just be pretty tired. He's given up 4+ runs in three of his last four starts, has only averaged six innings per start over that time frame, and has been throwing an average of 17 pitches an inning. Maybe skipping him Friday and holding him off until Monday (or even Tuesday) is the best idea. If I were coach (and we can all thank God I'm not), I'd be pretty tempted to start Drew, let him get through the order one time, then go some combination of Eisert/Tweet/Mulholland/Britton/Englebreckt from there on out. Do that, and I think you're set up for Thompson/Fehmel/All Hands on Deck in the champ. series, and you've saved your flexibility with Ras to use him in whatever situation (start, middle relief, close) you need him the most. And yes, I'm fully anticipating a win Friday. I think we just took LSU's soul last night. Don't you think FSU will stomp the grapes out of LSU? I think FSU feels they blew one. If beavs play FSU, just error free ball wins it. And throw strikes. Eisert seems to be good at throwing strikes:-) There was probably a better way to state what I was trying to say, but yes, I think we play FSU. I think a second game vs. LSU would be more dangerous than a matchup with the Seminoles, but I think we took the fight out of the Tigers, paving the way to the championship round for us. |
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Post by ochobeavo on Jun 20, 2017 8:55:40 GMT -8
Don't you think FSU will stomp the grapes out of LSU? I think FSU feels they blew one. If beavs play FSU, just error free ball wins it. And throw strikes. Eisert seems to be good at throwing strikes:-) There was probably a better way to state what I was trying to say, but yes, I think we play FSU. I think a second game vs. LSU would be more dangerous than a matchup with the Seminoles, but I think we took the fight out of the Tigers, paving the way to the championship round for us. Agreed.. While I obviously have a ton of confidence in our guys, for whatever reason, (gut feeling I guess?) is that I don't want to see LSU Friday - if they can beat FSU they get a little swagger back. Rather see FSU take them out while they are on their heels. |
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Post by beaverdude on Jun 20, 2017 9:21:13 GMT -8
I think we took the fight out of the Tigers, paving the way to the championship round for us. I think we may have woken LSU up. Nothing gets the blood flowing like getting whupped! |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 11:10:04 GMT -8
I think we took the fight out of the Tigers, paving the way to the championship round for us. I think we may have woken LSU up. Nothing gets the blood flowing like getting whupped! Arms are a bit of a question for them no matter how "woke" they are. They will in all likelihood be pulling from that super deep bullpen for their starter against FSU. Then they recycle or johnny wholestaff when he gets bombed. By friday, they have that tall kid with the weird delivery start against the Beavs. Kwan wears him out with a 15 pitch walk. How's that going to work out for them? Meanwhile the Beavs start a fresh arm with sub 3 ERA. Or an undefeated all star candidate. Bullpen chock full of beavs with very sharp teeth. I do not believe i am being overconfident. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 20, 2017 12:35:46 GMT -8
Jake only threw 78 pitches Saturday, so the idea that he wouldn't be at full strength Friday doesn't really make sense to me. That being said, his arm could just be pretty tired. He's given up 4+ runs in three of his last four starts, has only averaged six innings per start over that time frame, and has been throwing an average of 17 pitches an inning. Maybe skipping him Friday and holding him off until Monday (or even Tuesday) is the best idea. If I were coach (and we can all thank God I'm not), I'd be pretty tempted to start Drew, let him get through the order one time, then go some combination of Eisert/Tweet/Mulholland/Britton/Englebreckt from there on out. Do that, and I think you're set up for Thompson/Fehmel/All Hands on Deck in the champ. series, and you've saved your flexibility with Ras to use him in whatever situation (start, middle relief, close) you need him the most. And yes, I'm fully anticipating a win Friday. I think we just took LSU's soul last night. Does anyone have a feel for what's going on with Thompson? I have heard that Fullerton scouted him and figured out that he was tipping pitches, which is why they were so successful against him. Is there also an issue with Thompson being tired? He threw 120 pitches against Vanderbilt. It seems that five full days of rest should be enough for Thompson to get back to 100%, but, if there is a delivery problem, that may take some more work to get him ready for Friday. As for the Johnny Wholestaff strategy, that sounds like a recipe to be forced into wasting a pitcher on Saturday. If Ras can go 6-7 innings, he should start in my opinion. If no Ras, Thompson. If not Thompson, Fehmel again on three days rest? (Nickerson did it!) Or Britton? Oregon State needs to start someone that can chew up at least five innings on Friday, or we are going to end up with no arms on Saturday. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 20, 2017 13:19:17 GMT -8
I'm 100% behind the decision that Casey and Nate make. But here are the pros and cons in my mind.... Jake would be on short rest and then what would his role be in the final 3 game series? (yes, it is time to start setting up the pitching for the Championship round!). I'd rather see Jake rest or pitch only an inning or two to set him up for the Game 1 starter on Monday. Razz - Great option but I'm kind of liking him lurking as the closer or ready for 4-5 innings of solid relief. I'd prefer to get a lefty SP in the mix... and I'd go with Eisart or get this.... Mulholand Whoever goes on Friday probably won't pitch at all till Tuesday or Wednesday in relief. Just my $0.02 but I walk with Casey, all the confidence in the world he will figure it out! If Jake throws Saturday, he would be on five days' rest. That is not short rest. That is full rest. Thompson threw against Ohio State, Ball State, Washington, and Oregon on five days' rest. Ohio State. Thompson threw 90 pitches on Monday against Indiana. The following Sunday, Thompson threw 8 innings of two-hit ball (97 pitches) with one earned run, a 5-1 win (game 2 of 23 straight wins). Ball State. Thompson threw 78 pitches on Sunday against UC Davis. The following Saturday, Thompson threw 7 1/3 innings of one-hit ball (95 pitches) with one earned run, an 8-4 win to secure the sweep (game 10 of 23 straight wins). Washington. Thompson threw 123 pitches on Sunday against Utah. The following Saturday, Thompson threw 7 2/3 innings of six-hit ball (108 pitches) with no earned runs, a 3-0 win in the rubber game. Oregon. Thompson threw 103 pitches on Sunday against California. The following Saturday, Thompson threw 6 2/3 of three-hit ball with no earned runs, a 1-0 win to secure the season sweep (game 8 of 23 straight wins). Stutes threw on five days' rest in 2007 in the Championship Series. Buck threw on five days' rest in the 2006 Championship Series. Nickerson threw on two and three days' rest in the 2006 College World Series. If Oregon State wins on Friday, the starter would have four days' rest to pitch in game 3 of the Championship Series. That would be "short" rest for Thompson in the NCAA ranks, but four days' rest is standard "full" rest in MLB. Eisert has never started at Oregon State and has been averaging 2 1/3 innings per outing. Mulholland has never started at Oregon State and has been averaging two innings per outing. Getting a quality start out of either of them would be........something. I know that Mulholland could give you about four, maybe five, solid innings. Eisert could give you three, maybe four, solid innings. To me, the Johnny Wholestaff "strategy" sounds like a good way to see the team return to Corvallis on Saturday. Finish off FSU/LSU, then worry about the Championship Series! |
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