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Post by gzrbvr on Jun 11, 2017 9:04:13 GMT -8
Baseba1111 or other baseball savvy persons--I have a question--Start by saying I am not knowledgeable about most things baseball. I watched the game last night and I wonder about Knight's upper body strength. Obviously, high 90 speed speaks for itself, but in shots of the guy i thought he looked "skinny" on top. Maybe he is "whippy"--I don't know. But he looked to me as if he could use some upper body training. Or, would that make him "muscle-bound" as they used to say in the old days?
I thought the pitcher that came in for Vandy in the ninth had more "stuff" but I think he is only a freshman.
Anyway, to be clear, I am not criticizing Knight--I wish him well in whatever he does. When the game was 4-2 he was still in it- with one mistake less, he could have been ahead, although his pitch count was on a steep trajectory.
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Post by ricke71 on Jun 11, 2017 9:38:31 GMT -8
Typo: you mean "Kyle Wright"...not "Knight"
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Post by beavs6 on Jun 11, 2017 9:44:13 GMT -8
In simple terms. Power/velocity/speed is generated from the transferring of power from lower body and core body area into the arm. You throw with your legs. You don't throw with your arm...you aim or direct with it. Throwers of any kind will eventually have arm problems if they depend on the arm for power generation.
Some people do have a more natural whip action that helps with that transfer of power. Think of a catapult or rubber band. When you "snap" a rubber band, the energy released at the end of the snap is created all along the surface of the rubber band and transferred to the end, or whatever object you shoot out of it.
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Post by qjacques on Jun 11, 2017 9:54:48 GMT -8
The hips play an important part in the mechanics of throwing and that is why the legs need to be powerful. If the hips open to early, a pitcher will lose velocity. Hitting the landing and opening the hips is a matter of timing, just like hitting.
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Post by mbabeav on Jun 11, 2017 11:35:54 GMT -8
I was really surprised when he started getting close to 100 pitches and the guys on tv started talking about pitch limits - both Jake and Razz are power pitchers and 100+ is never a problem. This kid will need to spend time, and will spend time, in the weight room. He will also probably end up about 15 lbs heavier and hopefully learn to pitch from the thighs. He was not nearly as effective in the stretch as he was throwing from the windup.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 11, 2017 11:40:22 GMT -8
Baseba1111 or other baseball savvy persons--I have a question--Start by saying I am not knowledgeable about most things baseball. I watched the game last night and I wonder about Knight's upper body strength. Obviously, high 90 speed speaks for itself, but in shots of the guy i thought he looked "skinny" on top. Maybe he is "whippy"--I don't know. But he looked to me as if he could use some upper body training. Or, would that make him "muscle-bound" as they used to say in the old days? I thought the pitcher that came in for Vandy in the ninth had more "stuff" but I think he is only a freshman. Anyway, to be clear, I am not criticizing Knight--I wish him well in whatever he does. When the game was 4-2 he was still in it- with one mistake less, he could have been ahead, although his pitch count was on a steep trajectory. I could go into quite a bit of detail here but will not bore the patrons! First, what Kyle Wright has can't be coached or trained. It was said several times during the broadcast... "... how easy...". That is mostly genetics. The ball comes out of elite arms with a "different pop". Of all the kids I had drafted I had one arm like that... decided minor league life to get to the majors was not for him. Had others that we're tremendous "pitchers"... commanding the entire zone with 4 pitches never really breaking 85mph. Second, even elite "arms" need refining. The ball may fly out of the hand, but some will always be throwers not pitchers. As mentioned above, fundamentally building a solid base and balance that allows the body to work together... most importantly the arm not taking the brunt of the pressure and trailing. After that it has to become innately repeatable. The same motion every time for every pitch. Third, strength training is not taboo any longer. But, it has to include flexibility and throwing. Short work and long toss mixed with stretching/ running (both sprint and poles/distance) When it comes to pitch/grip development it is a lot of trial and error and building confidence. But, without a solid base, balanced repeatable delivery it will not matter. To move the ball from "1" to "7" and up and down with every pitch... to make balls look like strikes and strikes look like balls takes a refined motion that inspires confidence whenever trouble may arise. Ok... that got too long. |
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Post by gzrbvr on Jun 11, 2017 15:29:37 GMT -8
Typo: you mean "Kyle Wright"...not "Knight" Correct--Thanks Thanks for the responses above--good information |
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