youngbuckbeav
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Post by youngbuckbeav on Jun 9, 2017 11:49:44 GMT -8
BABY GIRL (our first child)! I hit the golf ball filled with the colored powder (pink or blue). I found out hours after I read this whole sad (for the victim and Luke) story. Truth be told, I am not sure if I want Luke on the team anymore or not but one thing is for sure: I pray that the victim has a long, happy and successful life and I wish the SAME for Luke. This brings me to my thoughts though: Is the justice system meant to punish, or to rehabilitate? Do we want justice, or do we want vengeance? Why should he try to be productive in society if all he will amount to is a "15 year old child molester"? If you or I hates how our country's legal system is ran in regards to the way they barely provide rehabilitation or counseling, wouldn't you want to support convicts and offenders actually getting treatment and going through intensive programs and counseling so that they can one day be productive members of society again? This is similar to making fun of a fat person at the gym when those are the ones we should be encouraging/rooting for. Seems like Luke is using baseball as one of those rehab medians to get through that tough time and move on. If we want to fight for true change and more growth from offenders and their past, then we can't get mad when they actually take the right steps to move on and grow from it...or can we? Now, if more stories keep coming out and this ends up not being something that happened when he was a minor, then I my thoughts will be clearer on the issue at hand. I bring this up because I personally feel conflicted in this situation with whats come out so far. Thoughts?   |
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Post by mbabeav on Jun 9, 2017 12:01:56 GMT -8
Congratulations, a new baby Beaver!
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Post by bucktoothvarmit on Jun 9, 2017 12:08:16 GMT -8
Congrats!!
You are about to become the smartest man in the world in a young lady's eyes. From my experience, that will only last for about 13 years however😉
It will take roughly another 13 years before your intelligence slowly returns.
Again, congratulations
Go Beavs!
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youngbuckbeav
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Post by youngbuckbeav on Jun 9, 2017 12:13:20 GMT -8
Congrats!! You are about to become the smartest man in the world in a young lady's eyes. From my experience, that will only last for about 13 years however😉 It will take roughly another 13 years before your intelligence slowly returns. Again, congratulations Go Beavs! Haha I can't wait! |
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Post by vhalum92 on Jun 9, 2017 12:38:00 GMT -8
Congrats! Great News!
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Post by obf on Jun 9, 2017 12:40:35 GMT -8
Congrats! Daughters are great!
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Post by jdogge on Jun 9, 2017 12:44:42 GMT -8
BABY GIRL (our first child)! I hit the golf ball filled with the colored powder (pink or blue). I found out hours after I read this whole sad (for the victim and Luke) story. Truth be told, I am not sure if I want Luke on the team anymore or not but one thing is for sure: I pray that the victim has a long, happy and successful life and I wish the SAME for Luke. This brings me to my thoughts though: Is the justice system meant to punish, or to rehabilitate? Do we want justice, or do we want vengeance? Why should he try to be productive in society if all he will amount to is a "15 year old child molester"? If you or I hates how our country's legal system is ran in regards to the way they barely provide rehabilitation or counseling, wouldn't you want to support convicts and offenders actually getting treatment and going through intensive programs and counseling so that they can one day be productive members of society again? This is similar to making fun of a fat person at the gym when those are the ones we should be encouraging/rooting for. Seems like Luke is using baseball as one of those rehab medians to get through that tough time and move on. If we want to fight for true change and more growth from offenders and their past, then we can't get mad when they actually take the right steps to move on and grow from it...or can we? Now, if more stories keep coming out and this ends up not being something that happened when he was a minor, then I my thoughts will be clearer on the issue at hand. I bring this up because I personally feel conflicted in this situation with whats come out so far. Thoughts? Hey, congrats!! |
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Post by beavadelic on Jun 9, 2017 12:46:00 GMT -8
Congratulations! Nothing like being a dad, and there's something special about the father-daughter relationship!
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Post by TheGlove on Jun 9, 2017 13:00:45 GMT -8
Should've went with the boy option.
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Post by beaverintheberg on Jun 9, 2017 13:28:15 GMT -8
Congrats!!
I have three daughters. Two of them are a dream!
The other is very loving --- but adverse to advice, lol!
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bill82
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Post by bill82 on Jun 9, 2017 13:38:58 GMT -8
BABY GIRL (our first child)! I hit the golf ball filled with the colored powder (pink or blue). I found out hours after I read this whole sad (for the victim and Luke) story. Truth be told, I am not sure if I want Luke on the team anymore or not but one thing is for sure: I pray that the victim has a long, happy and successful life and I wish the SAME for Luke. This brings me to my thoughts though: Is the justice system meant to punish, or to rehabilitate? Do we want justice, or do we want vengeance? Why should he try to be productive in society if all he will amount to is a "15 year old child molester"? If you or I hates how our country's legal system is ran in regards to the way they barely provide rehabilitation or counseling, wouldn't you want to support convicts and offenders actually getting treatment and going through intensive programs and counseling so that they can one day be productive members of society again? This is similar to making fun of a fat person at the gym when those are the ones we should be encouraging/rooting for. Seems like Luke is using baseball as one of those rehab medians to get through that tough time and move on. If we want to fight for true change and more growth from offenders and their past, then we can't get mad when they actually take the right steps to move on and grow from it...or can we? Now, if more stories keep coming out and this ends up not being something that happened when he was a minor, then I my thoughts will be clearer on the issue at hand. I bring this up because I personally feel conflicted in this situation with whats come out so far. Thoughts? Congratulations! Pray for the victim. Accept that LH has met his debt to society. If he is of faith, accept whatever peace he has made with his maker. Repudiate anyone seeking vigilante justice. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Jun 9, 2017 13:46:00 GMT -8
BABY GIRL (our first child)! I hit the golf ball filled with the colored powder (pink or blue). I found out hours after I read this whole sad (for the victim and Luke) story. Truth be told, I am not sure if I want Luke on the team anymore or not but one thing is for sure: I pray that the victim has a long, happy and successful life and I wish the SAME for Luke. This brings me to my thoughts though: Is the justice system meant to punish, or to rehabilitate? Do we want justice, or do we want vengeance? Why should he try to be productive in society if all he will amount to is a "15 year old child molester"? If you or I hates how our country's legal system is ran in regards to the way they barely provide rehabilitation or counseling, wouldn't you want to support convicts and offenders actually getting treatment and going through intensive programs and counseling so that they can one day be productive members of society again? This is similar to making fun of a fat person at the gym when those are the ones we should be encouraging/rooting for. Seems like Luke is using baseball as one of those rehab medians to get through that tough time and move on. If we want to fight for true change and more growth from offenders and their past, then we can't get mad when they actually take the right steps to move on and grow from it...or can we? Now, if more stories keep coming out and this ends up not being something that happened when he was a minor, then I my thoughts will be clearer on the issue at hand. I bring this up because I personally feel conflicted in this situation with whats come out so far. Thoughts? Congratulations! Pray for the victim. Accept that LH has met his debt to society. If he is of faith, accept whatever peace he has made with his maker. Repudiate anyone seeking vigilante justice. I agree with much of what you wrote, but sometimes, there is no justice without extra-judicial, societal justice. I am no vigilante, but I believe that supporting or standing idly by in the midst of evil makes you complicit after the fact. The evil that we must fear most is the indifference of good men. |
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mrazz
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Post by mrazz on Jun 9, 2017 16:16:22 GMT -8
No, "Extra-judicial, societal justice" is pretty much the definition of vigilantism. If you stand by and do nothing while you are present during the act, that makes you complicit; if you go about beating the drums for blood years after the case has been adjudicated, that makes you something else entirely. The indifference of a few good men is an evil quickly overshadowed by the lynch mob whipped up by the righteously indignant.
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Post by seastape on Jun 9, 2017 16:26:29 GMT -8
Congratulations!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2017 16:26:43 GMT -8
Congratulations! Nice to see some good news on the boards for a change!
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