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Post by rockybeav on Jun 4, 2017 7:35:25 GMT -8
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Post by ag87 on Jun 4, 2017 10:24:15 GMT -8
Spencer Petras has some information on athletic.net. He ran a 12.04 100m and a 45.13 300IH. He looks like a pure passer as opposed to someone who can hurt you with their legs. It's been discussed a lot but I still wonder if the offensive staff has a vision for what they want to accomplish and how to do it. But I am glad Petras was sprinting. Quickness and speed can be developed in anyone (to a certain point). I'm a strong believer that if a defense can completely ignore the threat of a quarterback gaining yards on the ground it makes the rest of the offense much easier to defend.
Note on the time: it's converted from hand-timing. The conversion is 0.24 seconds so the 100m was timed at 11.8 with a stopwatch.
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Post by seastape on Jun 4, 2017 10:27:39 GMT -8
Perhaps just enough mobility to get some first downs on a broken play. Maybe even more mobility than that. The article says that he is a sprinter and hurdler on the track team.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jun 4, 2017 12:50:10 GMT -8
Then again, DA was a state champion hurdler. He had a pretty poor 40 time at the NFL combine. I have always thought DA was more mobile than many give him credit for, at OSU he was expected to stay in the pocket. I'm thinking it was one of his first pro games he ripped the longest run of the season for the Browns.
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Post by rockybeav on Jun 4, 2017 13:03:43 GMT -8
Perhaps just enough mobility to get some first downs on a broken play. Maybe even more mobility than that. The article says that he is a sprinter and hurdler on the track team. That would be great! We will have to see if any designed runs will be in his future, assuming he signs, stays healthy, earns the starting gig, etc. At the very least, I'm hoping for someone who can threaten for 5 to 15 yard runs...so hard to defend a QB with even decent wheels who can also throw deep.
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Post by woodrow7525 on Jun 4, 2017 20:49:48 GMT -8
It's interesting that they are no longer recruiting Brevin White. I wonder if they gave him a bit of a take it or leave offer once Petras seemed like a possibility? White's comments from various articles basically sounded like he liked OSU because they liked him. Kinda like a middle school crush so it never sounded real to me. Wonder if he was turned off by Petras being on board. With Petras getting a 4th star by ESPN, it wouldn't suck to have two 4 star level guys in one class.
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Post by obf on Jun 6, 2017 10:01:52 GMT -8
I have to admit that article has me pretty excited for Petras, hopefully he has a great senior year and gets me even more excited, but also doesn't get picked off by a bigger name university...
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Post by ochobeavo on Jun 6, 2017 10:32:24 GMT -8
It's interesting that they are no longer recruiting Brevin White. I wonder if they gave him a bit of a take it or leave offer once Petras seemed like a possibility? White's comments from various articles basically sounded like he liked OSU because they liked him. Kinda like a middle school crush so it never sounded real to me. Wonder if he was turned off by Petras being on board. With Petras getting a 4th star by ESPN, it wouldn't suck to have two 4 star level guys in one class. I think Boise St and Memphis are his leaders now. He visited UNC but they haven't offered. Somewhere I saw that he was strongly considering Memphis. I believe he knows Memphis HC because he recruited White's older brother while at ASU. As far as Pac-12 goes, spots are filling up fast. UW has 2 QBs, WSU has 1, Utah, Colorado, USC, UCLA and Stanford have QB commits... ASU and Cal still looking for QBs.
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Post by rockybeav on Jun 6, 2017 12:31:43 GMT -8
I have to admit that article has me pretty excited for Petras, hopefully he has a great senior year and gets me even more excited, but also doesn't get picked off by a bigger name university... I felt the same way after reading this article! If he was offered by Louisville and Cal, those are impressive offensive coaches who know the QB position. Say what you want about Petrino, but the guy knows offense. Same for Beau Baldwin at Cal. No P12 experience yet, but his quarterbacks/offenses at EWU were always impressive. It would be nice to land another solid QB for this class. I wonder if OSU and Brevin White decided to mutually part ways. In one article, White mentioned how he wanted a decision in June, as more and more quarterbacks were committing to his schools of interest. Maybe OSU got added to this list. Tough thing being a recruit, you want time to make an important decision, but if you wait too long as a QB your options might dry up. Then again as a qb, you have to expect competition. I hope Brevin still considers the Beavs. You have to win out wherever you go, after all.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 6, 2017 13:40:23 GMT -8
I have to admit that article has me pretty excited for Petras, hopefully he has a great senior year and gets me even more excited, but also doesn't get picked off by a bigger name university... I felt the same way after reading this article! If he was offered by Louisville and Cal, those are impressive offensive coaches who know the QB position. Say what you want about Petrino, but the guy knows offense. Same for Beau Baldwin at Cal. No P12 experience yet, but his quarterbacks/offenses at EWU were always impressive. It would be nice to land another solid QB for this class. I wonder if OSU and Brevin White decided to mutually part ways. In one article, White mentioned how he wanted a decision in June, as more and more quarterbacks were committing to his schools of interest. Maybe OSU got added to this list. Tough thing being a recruit, you want time to make an important decision, but if you wait too long as a QB your options might dry up. Then again as a qb, you have to expect competition. I hope Brevin still considers the Beavs. You have to win out wherever you go, after all. I'm thinking he doesn't want THAT kind of competition as I'm not sure why we'd take the local kid (who is a true project compared to other current QBs and recruits) over White if he was still interested.
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Post by ochobeavo on Jun 6, 2017 14:26:10 GMT -8
I felt the same way after reading this article! If he was offered by Louisville and Cal, those are impressive offensive coaches who know the QB position. Say what you want about Petrino, but the guy knows offense. Same for Beau Baldwin at Cal. No P12 experience yet, but his quarterbacks/offenses at EWU were always impressive. It would be nice to land another solid QB for this class. I wonder if OSU and Brevin White decided to mutually part ways. In one article, White mentioned how he wanted a decision in June, as more and more quarterbacks were committing to his schools of interest. Maybe OSU got added to this list. Tough thing being a recruit, you want time to make an important decision, but if you wait too long as a QB your options might dry up. Then again as a qb, you have to expect competition. I hope Brevin still considers the Beavs. You have to win out wherever you go, after all. I'm thinking he doesn't want THAT kind of competition as I'm not sure why we'd take the local kid (who is a true project compared to other current QBs and recruits) over White if he was still interested. I don't know much about him - but iss Dukart good enough that we give the "we'll give you a brief shot at QB, if it doesn't work out you move to (insert position)" type of deal? I think it's originally called the Tanner Sanders. Now modified to "the Sanders-Moran". I know Dukart plays safety as well. Is he good enough to play baseball here? I know he originally was committed to ASU...but is he good enough to play for the greatest baseball program in all the land?
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Post by baseba1111 on Jun 6, 2017 14:39:33 GMT -8
I'm thinking he doesn't want THAT kind of competition as I'm not sure why we'd take the local kid (who is a true project compared to other current QBs and recruits) over White if he was still interested. I don't know much about him - but iss Dukart good enough that we give the "we'll give you a brief shot at QB, if it doesn't work out you move to (insert position)" type of deal? I think it's originally called the Tanner Sanders. Now modified to "the Sanders-Moran". I know Dukart plays safety as well. Is he good enough to play baseball here? I know he originally was committed to ASU...but is he good enough to play for the greatest baseball program in all the land? Could be a dual sport thing, let football pay his way?! Have not seen him on the diamond, but can't play either QB or S at our level... especially with the DB recruits were getting.
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Post by atownbeaver on Jun 6, 2017 15:04:07 GMT -8
I don't know much about him - but iss Dukart good enough that we give the "we'll give you a brief shot at QB, if it doesn't work out you move to (insert position)" type of deal? I think it's originally called the Tanner Sanders. Now modified to "the Sanders-Moran". I know Dukart plays safety as well. Is he good enough to play baseball here? I know he originally was committed to ASU...but is he good enough to play for the greatest baseball program in all the land? Could be a dual sport thing, let football pay his way?! Have not seen him on the diamond, but can't play either QB or S at our level... especially with the DB recruits were getting. Yeah, not sure what is in the cards with him. Total out of nowhere very late riser. Was essentially on nobody and I mean NOBODY's radar until this past year's 7 on 7 season. Apparently he did quite well there and started getting some attention. but, of course, that does not make him a legit D1 prospect. so, we shall see. maybe there is a larger purpose here. Maybe the staff thinks he is nice little project and just extending OSU cred among high schoolers for later big fish down the road? who knows.
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Post by obf on Jun 6, 2017 16:11:38 GMT -8
Could be a dual sport thing, let football pay his way?! Have not seen him on the diamond, but can't play either QB or S at our level... especially with the DB recruits were getting. Yeah, not sure what is in the cards with him. Total out of nowhere very late riser. Was essentially on nobody and I mean NOBODY's radar until this past year's 7 on 7 season. Apparently he did quite well there and started getting some attention. but, of course, that does not make him a legit D1 prospect. so, we shall see. maybe there is a larger purpose here. Maybe the staff thinks he is nice little project and just extending OSU cred among high schoolers for later big fish down the road? who knows. Especially for in state kids I would think (and hope) that there are a couple scholarships/walk-on spots reserved, if for nothing else,for keeping good will to the bigger football schools. Lake Oswego tends to put several kids in D1 programs every year so keeping the relationship ("pipeline" if you will) healthy is a good goal. And in this case it helps the baseball team by stealing a guy away from ASU, so double whammy! And who knows, you could create a list a mile long of under recruited kids that turned to gold, especially at the QB position because intangibles mean so much.
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