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Post by hometownbeaver on May 21, 2017 12:45:32 GMT -8
LMAO 10-0 now wonder if his team will ever let him talk again
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Post by beavadelic on May 21, 2017 13:26:27 GMT -8
LMAO 10-0 now wonder if his team will ever let him talk again So funny...famous last words! It seems like we have had a lot of nip and tuck games on Fridays and Saturdays, and opponents have had just enough encouragement to think they could beat us. We fight through their best shot, break their hearts (often having won the series on Saturday, and then just abuse them as they limp off the field on Sunday. What a great year! |
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Post by baseba1111 on May 21, 2017 13:47:59 GMT -8
I was hoping we'd see some decent pitching these last 7 games. Friday's guys were average, the rest were good HS guys. Looking at stats next week looks worse.
Banging around this type of pitching can be good for the ego in the short term, but not the looks we need for the postseason, especially with unknown crews coming in.
I knew WSU wasn't good, but they're a long way from good.
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Post by beavadelic on May 21, 2017 14:28:46 GMT -8
I was hoping we'd see some decent pitching these last 7 games. Friday's guys were average, the rest were good HS guys. Looking at stats next week looks worse. Banging around this type of pitching can be good for the ego in the short term, but not the looks we need for the postseason, especially with unknown crews coming in. I knew WSU wasn't good, but they're a long way from good. Which helps to concetualize just how bad hole and UW actually were/are? |
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Post by baseba1111 on May 21, 2017 14:33:19 GMT -8
I was hoping we'd see some decent pitching these last 7 games. Friday's guys were average, the rest were good HS guys. Looking at stats next week looks worse. Banging around this type of pitching can be good for the ego in the short term, but not the looks we need for the postseason, especially with unknown crews coming in. I knew WSU wasn't good, but they're a long way from good. Which helps to concetualize just how bad hole and UW actually were/are? Really or entire conference. Not sure how more than three teams can be selected. Not an indictment of this team, but I see OSU and Zona (if they host) as the only teams getting out of a regional. Just not impressed with any team. There are some stellar individuals, but OSU would be the only Pac12 team that would be intimidating to come play. |
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Post by shelby on May 21, 2017 15:14:10 GMT -8
I heard that comment. Actually, we have just as much ability as anyone else at the plate. Gretler and Grenier just smashed some balls today, same with Madrigal. KJ wasn't even in the lineup.
Both Larnach and Adley are squaring it up and Anderson does whatever is necessary. Not an easy lineup to pitch to.
I think we can hit the fastball pretty well - what messes us up is the off speed Scroogie type left handers.
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Post by beavadelic on May 21, 2017 15:22:30 GMT -8
Which helps to concetualize just how bad hole and UW actually were/are? Really or entire conference. Not sure how more than three teams can be selected. Not an indictment of this team, but I see OSU and Zona (if they host) as the only teams getting out of a regional. Just not impressed with any team. There are some stellar individuals, but OSU would be the only Pac12 team that would be intimidating to come play. May be very accurate. I do think that Stanford has notched it up a bit and could do some damage. UCLA is pure enigma. They have talent, but not only have they been mediocre in Pac 12 play, but they were in the OOC schedule as well. Weird team this year. Those 4 - along with ASU until this year - have been the class of the PAC the past decade plus. Unfortunately for the conference, only the Beavs have come to play pretty much every day. We're far from perfect, but we're talented and deep (especially on the bump)and our consistency and tenacity along with who we have leading our program clearly makes the Beavs the PAC 12's best and most realistic hope for Omaha and a National title. |
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Post by baseba1111 on May 21, 2017 15:30:14 GMT -8
Really or entire conference. Not sure how more than three teams can be selected. Not an indictment of this team, but I see OSU and Zona (if they host) as the only teams getting out of a regional. Just not impressed with any team. There are some stellar individuals, but OSU would be the only Pac12 team that would be intimidating to come play. May be very accurate. I do think that Stanford has notched it up a bit and could do some damage. UCLA is pure enigma. They have talent, but not only have they been mediocre in Pac 12 play, but they were in the OOC schedule as well. Weird team this year. Those 4 - along with ASU until this year - have been the class of the PAC the past decade plus. Unfortunately for the conference, only the Beavs have come to play pretty much every day. We're far from perfect, but we're talented and deep (especially on the bump)and our consistency and tenacity along with who we have leading our program clearly makes the Beavs the PAC 12's best and most realistic hope for Omaha and a National title. I agree. As much as some on here have a "hard on" for blaming Meggs, the Pac12 has not been very good in the post season as a conference for a few years. Not too long ago we did not get a team out of the regionals. Add a little southern bias, I think Pac 12 teams have to do a little bit more to get invites. The 2006-2008 bought OSU a few years of "bias", but overall the conference is not seen as the baseball hotbed it was when SC and ASU had dominate programs. And, other than PC (with MM leaving) the conference does not have a group of elite coaches that get the benefit of the doubt. |
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Post by eugenedave on May 21, 2017 16:15:06 GMT -8
So many things to comment on this thread.
First off, WSU HAS Been playing very good ball the past three weeks, until they ran into a buzzsaw called Oregon State. Do not dismiss these wins as rolling over an inferior opponent. Casey himself has said many times that if you do not show up to play P-12 ball on any given day, you will lose to whoever you are playing.
Second off, THe Pac-12 is an elite baseball conference. Yes, the SEC and for some reason the ACC get a lot of press. But what matters is who comes home with the trophy from Omaha. There are one hell of a lot of them in various P-12 baseball trophy rooms. It is foolish to dismiss this as a down year in our conference. If it was, then why is our RPI and ISR #1?
Guys, and gals, this is an elite team we have this season. They are one of the best, EVER. Not just at Oregon State, but anywhere. They will take us to the promised land of Omaha in three weeks, and I am going to have one hell of a good time watching them make their appointment with destiny.
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Post by baseba1111 on May 21, 2017 16:27:27 GMT -8
So many things to comment on this thread. First off, WSU HAS Been playing very good ball the past three weeks, until they ran into a buzzsaw called Oregon State. Do not dismiss these wins as rolling over an inferior opponent. Casey himself has said many times that if you do not show up to play P-12 ball on any given day, you will lose to whoever you are playing. Second off, THe Pac-12 is an elite baseball conference. Yes, the SEC and for some reason the ACC get a lot of press. But what matters is who comes home with the trophy from Omaha. There are one hell of a lot of them in various P-12 baseball trophy rooms. It is foolish to dismiss this as a down year in our conference. If it was, then why is our RPI and ISR #1? Guys, and gals, this is an elite team we have this season. They are one of the best, EVER. Not just at Oregon State, but anywhere. They will take us to the promised land of Omaha in three weeks, and I am going to have one hell of a good time watching them make their appointment with destiny. ED... you seem to think you have all the answers regarding baseball. You just do not have ALL the answers! LOL THE PAC12 is down... WSU came off wins versus middling Pac12 teams... they are now 6-19 on the road and that's not good in ANY league. WSU is bad... you want to keep tossing out "stats" look at theirs. We got lucky in game 1, and faced very good HS pitching the rest of the series. We rocked their world... cuz we're good and they are BAD!!! If it was seen as elite we'd get more teams in the tourney. It isn't always about getting "screwed". Other than Furd and Zona not one other team truly deserves an invite and if so will be handily eliminated in my opinion. And, lastly... you orange tinted love for this team is obvious, but I so hope they win it all so we do not have to read the numerous posts on how we got screwed, or some other lame excuses that this "special" team did not win it all. You've already predicted a NC... be prepared as it takes way more than talent to get through the post season... especially with the added pressure of being #1 for so long. PS- I'm not a fan of stats and how they can be interpreted in multiple ways to support multiple beliefs. BUT, the last time I peeked at D1 baseball and the NCAA site... (6) ACC teams in top 25 RPI (6) SEC " " " " " (6) Big 12 " " " " " (3) Pac 12 " " " " "... AAC has as many in Top 30 as the Pac 12... 7 of out 11 are below 60 And the Pac 12 is listed as the 4th best RPI conference in many spots... barely ahead of the American Athletic Conference... and has 5th best NC record. So, OSU is ELITE, the league is certainly not. Again, not indictment on OSU. |
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Post by BeaverG20 on May 21, 2017 17:22:09 GMT -8
6 times since 2006, and 2 out of the last 4 years, the PAC has either won it all or finished second. I think that defines post season success as a conference. Is the conference "down" this year? Maybe, but all it takes is one. The rankings and RPI remind me of the SEC bias in college football. Every year they are ranked really well from top to bottom, and Alabama is great, but then they have a losing record in bowl games as a conference. Rankings and RPI aren't the end all be all.
The ACC has been and is almost always considered to be one of the top baseball conferences, and they have 1 national championship in the modern era.
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Post by baseba1111 on May 21, 2017 18:10:45 GMT -8
6 times since 2006, and 2 out of the last 4 years, the PAC has either won it all or finished second. I think that defines post season success as a conference. Is the conference "down" this year? Maybe, but all it takes is one. The rankings and RPI remind me of the SEC bias in college football. Every year they are ranked really well from top to bottom, and Alabama is great, but then they have a losing record in bowl games as a conference. Rankings and RPI aren't the end all be all. The ACC has been and is almost always considered to be one of the top baseball conferences, and they have 1 national championship in the modern era. Means Pac12 has had a good team get hot, not a great conference. |
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Post by BeaverG20 on May 21, 2017 18:12:29 GMT -8
"The Pac12 is not a great baseball conference."
OK, homie. You're wrong, but that's ok, because you bring a lot to the table most of the time.
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Post by baseba1111 on May 21, 2017 18:24:16 GMT -8
"The Pac12 is not a great baseball conference." OK, homie. You're wrong, but that's ok, because you bring a lot to the table most of the time. Funny.... not sure I've read that quote... anywhere? You had mentioned years where the Pac12 had runners up or champs... I mentioned it was a team that was good not necessarily the conference as a whole. |
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Post by BeaverG20 on May 21, 2017 18:29:49 GMT -8
What you said was , " means Pac12 had a good team get hot, Not a great conference."
You attribute the success of the most accomplished baseball conference to teams getting hot, and that it isn't a great conference. You are wrong.
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