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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2017 21:10:02 GMT -8
Consider this excerpt from an article about Auriemma and UConn:
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Shortly after the freshmen arrived in Storrs, they were introduced to a UConn way that runs straight and focused. It demands that players put aside some personal preferences and adhere to the program's style.
"The older girls warned us about Coach Dailey's rules," freshman Michala Johnson said. "It was kind of new to me. In high school, there weren't any rules for things like that. But coming here lets you know that it's not just about the basketball. It's about conducting yourself in a professional manner."
Johnson has a small tattoo on her ankle. UConn rules prevent exposed tattoos while in uniform. Johnson and freshmen Lauren Engeln and Bria Hartley like to wear fingernail polish. UConn rules prevent the players from wearing any during the season.
"The summer was the last time I could wear it," Johnson said. "That's the one rule that I was most shocked about. CD [Dailey] really got on me about it. As soon as I came back to school after the summer, that was it, nor more nail polish. Bria, Lauren and I all like to paint our nails, so it's going to be tough for us."
Dailey said the rules are not meant to be punitive, but are part of the code of behavior the coaches feel contributes to the team's success.
"Let me ask you: Can you take a basketball player who wears nail polish seriously? I say no," Dailey said. "When you step onto the court, you are a basketball player. And in my view, a basketball player does not come with nail polish."
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So according to Dailey (and by extension, Auriemma), women in pants are unprofessional and ladies who wear nail polish can't be taken seriously. He's just enforcing his own idiotic and archaic ideas on ladies who have no choice but to reluctantly abide. And if you listen to him talk, it's clear Auriemma is narcissistic and egotistical. I'll take Rueck any day.
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Post by baseba1111 on May 18, 2017 22:31:55 GMT -8
This might be the lamest, most random, far reaching, ridiculous, weird, out of place, seemingly just a search to try to find a reason to hate post/conclusion I've ever seen posted here!
That is NOT Auriemma vs Rueck. That's just a backhanded compliment by trying to degrade and hate on arguably the most successful women's coach of all time.
No need to bash one to support and praise the other!
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 5:02:16 GMT -8
By coming to the defense of a man (Auriemma) who thinks a woman is unprofessional when she wears pants to some public event or who paints her nails, you are implicitly approving his opinions. And apparently you have not listened to him when interviewed: He IS egotistical and narcissistic. His success is entirely irrelevant to his personal failings, of course, and is primarily if not exclusively due to UConn's luck in attracting talent, so why would you think his success IS relevant? The sports commentators walk on tippy toe around him because they'd be fired in our politically correct environment if they uttered a single word that was not in praise of him. Just like them, you are blindly fawning over his "success". I could draw parallels to many "successful" people in history who were worshiped because of their power and authority, but who were tyrants. History has shown that some people are quick worship a leader who increases their standard of living by invading Poland. I'm not that kind of sheep. Open thine eyes.
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Post by bennyskid on May 19, 2017 5:30:15 GMT -8
You know, it's possible that Auriemma could be *wrong* about whether ballers should wear nail polish and him not be "egotistical and narcissistic". A discussion about the former would touch on an issue that is particularly important in college sports - many say, if it hadn't been for facial hair, OSU would have never suffered through the Avezzano years. A discussion of the latter is just one person throwing insults at someone else that he has only seen on TV.
And, yes, "Open thine eyes". Our world would be so much better if people would realize that other people (Auriemma, Obama, Trump) can be *wrong* without being *evil*.
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on May 19, 2017 6:49:27 GMT -8
Interesting topic thread.....
Auriemma is becoming the WBB equivalent of John Wooden, though I have seen nothing as compelling as the Pyramid of Success from Geno.
There is an incident about Wooden being prepared to toss Bill Walton off the team unless he was clean-shaven.
There is a story of him threatening to end the careers of some players who wanted to skip practice to protest the Vietnam War.
But then there are also whispers of Sam Gilbert boosting UCLA to glory while Wooden looked the other way.
I think anyone who is put on those sort of pedestals runs the risk of being glorified and vilified beyond what is reasonable.
Any player good enough to go to UConn likely has lots of other choices. As long as they know the deal coming in, I have no problems with there being rules.
I will take Scott "you don't have to like each other, but you do have to love each other" Rueck any day, however....
Go Beavs!
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Post by billsaab on May 19, 2017 7:46:06 GMT -8
I will not accuse a Coach who wins all the time nor cast insults. Many Coaches Have Rules and it is their way or the Highway so to speak. I think of Ralph Miller.He hated dribbling and bounce passes. Gino is very much a New England type. He appears arrogant,but I see that as confident. He is direct and expects a high quality person and player. Scott comes across as a polite,but demanding coach as well. He May have different standards,but at George Fox they worked for Him and the same would be said at Oregon State.
I hope Scott can do what Gino has done many times,but to trash a guy is a sad commentary of our times.People show no class or manners.This is why reading the subjects that change each post become unreadable after a fashion. Very happy with Scott's recruiting. I even expect us to challenge next Year.
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Post by 411500 on May 19, 2017 8:58:28 GMT -8
billsaab - - you got me curious! You expect Lady Beavs to challenge for WHAT next near? Whatever it is, I'd be interesting in reading your thoughts about it.....
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Post by baseba1111 on May 19, 2017 9:32:51 GMT -8
By coming to the defense of a man (Auriemma) who thinks a woman is unprofessional when she wears pants to some public event or who paints her nails, you are implicitly approving his opinions. And apparently you have not listened to him when interviewed: He IS egotistical and narcissistic. His success is entirely irrelevant to his personal failings, of course, and is primarily if not exclusively due to UConn's luck in attracting talent, so why would you think his success IS relevant? The sports commentators walk on tippy toe around him because they'd be fired in our politically correct environment if they uttered a single word that was not in praise of him. Just like them, you are blindly fawning over his "success". I could draw parallels to many "successful" people in history who were worshiped because of their power and authority, but who were tyrants. History has shown that some people are quick worship a leader who increases their standard of living by invading Poland. I'm not that kind of sheep. Open thine eyes.And read... there was no defense. It was a simple statement of disgust for your post. That line of thinking at stereotypical judgments are exactly what is wrong in today's society and why your moniker so aptly fits you... based on your last two posts at least. |
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Post by bennyskid on May 19, 2017 9:53:00 GMT -8
By observation is that the strict coaches win until they stop winning. Then they don't.
I know that sounds like a tautology, but I think there is a cycle. A coach gets some success, recruiting becomes easy, and he has the opportunity to tighten the rules. After a while he starts thinking that his success is *because* of the rules. And maybe to some extent it is. But then you have a bad year or two, the recruiting gets harder, and the rules start to look antiquated. But not many coaches have the wherewithal to change their ways. They never get the magic back, and they blame it all on "the kids these days".
I think Auriemma will have the luxury of retiring before he reaches that point. His successor, though, will have a tough time if he/she wants to tread that same path.
As an aside - I don't have a problem with "no nail polish during the season" and requiring skirts at public events. Last I checked, the NBA requires players to wear a suit to the venue. I don't think those sorts of rules are going to turn off any players worth recruiting. I'd worry more about the overall "feel" of the program, and whether a sense of entitlement has set in.
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Post by billsaab on May 19, 2017 11:46:50 GMT -8
My thoughts about Next Year. With Pivoc stepping up and Katie growing in Her Game i see a 6' 7" center,I see improvement with Gulich. I like the Freshman coming in and expect a challenge for the league I don't see us as a top 5, but rather a top 15 team next year. Also the reserves need to be able to contribute.
I like the way Scott blends the Talent and tries to Hide our short comings. intense defensive Teams bother me Like Stanford,and like I expect UW becoming under their Coach. U f O won'tscare me as they are to self absorbed and not tough. I am hoping for 25 or 26 wins.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 11:47:05 GMT -8
For those of you who defend Auriemma:
"Some of our fans are so [g-damn] stupid it's unbelievable," Auriemma told Lowe, who early in the interview said the ESPN podcast allowed for the use of profanity, if the moment struck Auriemma, which is different than many mediums. "They complain a lot of times that we have no competition and it's boring. Then if we play a really good team and don't play our A-game, they bitch that something's wrong with UConn: 'This kid's not any good. That kid's not any good. Geno Auriemma got outcoached by this coach.' It's unbelievable."
Auriemma, 61, also said "women who bitch and moan all the time about not getting any respect do a horrible job of supporting women's sports at the gate with their money."
Pat Jordan at Deadspin wrote a long piece about Auriemma a year ago. Here is a chunk that matters for this post:
When a female UConn student reporter at a news conference asked Geno a question that he didn’t like, he writes about how he berated her in front of veteran reporters. He said: “[T]hat really pisses me off. You’re too young to ask those kinds of questions.” […]
He harassed another player, point guard Sue Bird, a cool, controlled customer, until finally she broke down and cried. “I’m ecstatic,” he wrote. “My players pay for the scars of my past.” He justifies his behavior, writing, “I only pick on people I care about.”
What happens when people pick on him, when reporters write things about him that he doesn’t like? He told me, “If they don’t behave I cut them out. [In this way] I can control the local press.”
And this:
A security director for the National Basketball Association accused Geno Auriemma, the coach of the U.S. Olympic women's basketball team, of forcibly trying to kiss her during a 2009 overseas basketball tournament in a lawsuit filed Monday.
In the suit, filed in state Supreme Court in Manhattan, Kelley Hardwick said Auriemma followed her to her hotel room during a trip to Russia with the national team, grabbed her arm and tried to kiss her.
While she rebuffed his advances, he retaliated earlier this year by persuading the NBA to remove Hardwick as the top security official for the women's team at the London Olympics this summer, the lawsuit contends.
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Post by 411500 on May 19, 2017 12:02:21 GMT -8
Jeepers, creepers. What a mean guy.
My guess is he's the only one in the coaching industry.
I hope the discovery of such bad behaviour didn't shatter your understanding of sports history.
Hopefully the players will recuperate from being coached by such a meany..
UConn may be looking at a Death Penalty for condoning such misanthropism.
Keep digging. He may have done even more mean stuff we don't know about.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2017 13:23:34 GMT -8
Correct, I really, really don't like Auriemma. How someone like him can be regarded as a good spokesman and example for Women's Basketball is something I cannot understand. I apologize for starting this thread. It has turned much more negative that I had intended. "TheGlove" or whoever the Administrator is, please delete this thread. It's making me uncomfortable!
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