bbfan
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Post by bbfan on May 15, 2017 10:00:25 GMT -8
3 questions:
1) Does Drew come back? Deadline to withdraw is May 24
2) Do the Beavers sign Mcintosh, the grad transfer from Illinois State who could come in and be a big contributor?
3) Does N'Diaye return? (There is only 1 slot left if Drew comes back so the answer to all 3 questions cant be yes)
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Post by baseba1111 on May 15, 2017 10:26:01 GMT -8
3 questions:
1) Does Drew come back? Deadline to withdraw is May 24
2) Do the Beavers sign Mcintosh, the grad transfer from Illinois State who could come in and be a big contributor?
3) Does N'Diaye return? (There is only 1 slot left if Drew comes back so the answer to all 3 questions cant be yes) 1) Hope not... if so there better be a very short leash on his attitude. 2) Depends on any other option floating out there. Do not see him as a potential difference maker other than he's a proven player that is significantly better than our previous walk ons. 3) who cares... nice kid not a D1 bb player. Is there another kid or there better? If no better option, reward him... see #2
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bbfan
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Post by bbfan on May 15, 2017 10:33:17 GMT -8
I would politely disagree on McIntosh. He is a mid/high level grad transfer with Power 5 schools trying to sign him
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Post by baseba1111 on May 15, 2017 11:06:21 GMT -8
I would politely disagree on McIntosh. He is a mid/high level grad transfer with Power 5 schools trying to sign him I'd agree on the "who" is after him. But, watching his tapes he's not a Pac 12 difference maker. He's a hustle/ dirty work guy that every good team needs and is a plus to us compared with the past walk ons. But will not make up for a lack of talented bigs.
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bill82
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Post by bill82 on May 15, 2017 12:44:10 GMT -8
No, no, and no. Drew is going to visualize himself to Italian B League. Best to keep roster spots open for long shot players that could help.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 15, 2017 13:29:44 GMT -8
3 questions:
1) Does Drew come back? Deadline to withdraw is May 24
2) Do the Beavers sign Mcintosh, the grad transfer from Illinois State who could come in and be a big contributor?
3) Does N'Diaye return? (There is only 1 slot left if Drew comes back so the answer to all 3 questions cant be yes) 1) Hope not... if so there better be a very short leash on his attitude. 2) Depends on any other option floating out there. Do not see him as a potential difference maker other than he's a proven player that is significantly better than our previous walk ons. 3) who cares... nice kid not a D1 bb player. Is there another kid or there better? If no better option, reward him... see #2 Defensively, N'Diaye forces teams to work a lot harder to score. Offensively, he is not aggressive enough. Another problem with him is that he makes too many bad decisions. If N'Diaye can get his head right, he could still be a force.
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Post by atownbeaver on May 15, 2017 13:52:56 GMT -8
3 questions:
1) Does Drew come back? Deadline to withdraw is May 24
2) Do the Beavers sign Mcintosh, the grad transfer from Illinois State who could come in and be a big contributor?
3) Does N'Diaye return? (There is only 1 slot left if Drew comes back so the answer to all 3 questions cant be yes) 1. No. I think enough reading between the lines between his comments and Tinkle's comments was "you are not really welcome here, Drew". I do not want to pretend I am an insider or anything, but more and more I believe the poor attitude and effort had a lot to do with him. 2. Hope so. We are in the position that beggars cannot be choosers. We have talented positions players, but we are soft inside. We need a high energy hustle, fighter type real bad. We will have shooters, will will have guys that can penetrate and create some shots. We need a middle presence and better PG play. I agree that he is no true center and not a "talented big" but he is also not chopped liver. He is a guy that can make do, and we didn't even have that last year. 3. I also hope so based on 2. a seven footer is a seven footer. He does eat up space and get rebounds. He is a tall boy in the middle that forces the game outside. He has never really put it all together and is a foul machine... but he is far better than nothing! I think OSU is a team that is not perfect, and wouldn't challenge in the dance... but given some leadership, direction and good execution can win a bunch of games. next year I think we can regain some lost traction and get straightened out again.
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Post by joecool on May 15, 2017 15:37:41 GMT -8
1. No 2. Yes 3. Yes
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Post by beaverinohio on May 16, 2017 7:25:53 GMT -8
1. Yes. Would be the best thing for him and his aspirations to play in NBA. 2. I don't know if he wants to come here, but if he does Beavers should definitely sign him. He's not a star but he will make a difference on the Beavers. 3. If 1 or 2 don't happen then I could see him returning. It's pretty late in the transfer season, and Beavers need bigs -- especially if Drew doesn't come back
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 16, 2017 12:30:54 GMT -8
3 questions:
1) Does Drew come back? Deadline to withdraw is May 24
2) Do the Beavers sign Mcintosh, the grad transfer from Illinois State who could come in and be a big contributor?
3) Does N'Diaye return? (There is only 1 slot left if Drew comes back so the answer to all 3 questions cant be yes) 1. No. I think enough reading between the lines between his comments and Tinkle's comments was "you are not really welcome here, Drew". I do not want to pretend I am an insider or anything, but more and more I believe the poor attitude and effort had a lot to do with him. 2. Hope so. We are in the position that beggars cannot be choosers. We have talented positions players, but we are soft inside. We need a high energy hustle, fighter type real bad. We will have shooters, will will have guys that can penetrate and create some shots. We need a middle presence and better PG play. I agree that he is no true center and not a "talented big" but he is also not chopped liver. He is a guy that can make do, and we didn't even have that last year. 3. I also hope so based on 2. a seven footer is a seven footer. He does eat up space and get rebounds. He is a tall boy in the middle that forces the game outside. He has never really put it all together and is a foul machine... but he is far better than nothing! I think OSU is a team that is not perfect, and wouldn't challenge in the dance... but given some leadership, direction and good execution can win a bunch of games. next year I think we can regain some lost traction and get straightened out again. Eubanks and N'Diaye each have a ton of upside. I do not think that we have seen either one's top floor. However, it is tough to justify them both staying. If Eubanks stays, N'Diaye probably should move on. He could be a big piece (pun intended) to a team in a second-tier conference. However, he is just not going to see the minutes, if Eubanks stays. That would also free up Oregon State to bring in McIntosh, who can help. If Eubanks declares, N'Diaye should stay, as he will undoubtedly help. So the answer to 2 is yes. 1 and 3 each have their pros and cons. I would prefer N'Diaye stay but not at the expense of McIntosh.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 16, 2017 12:32:51 GMT -8
1. No. I think enough reading between the lines between his comments and Tinkle's comments was "you are not really welcome here, Drew". I do not want to pretend I am an insider or anything, but more and more I believe the poor attitude and effort had a lot to do with him. 2. Hope so. We are in the position that beggars cannot be choosers. We have talented positions players, but we are soft inside. We need a high energy hustle, fighter type real bad. We will have shooters, will will have guys that can penetrate and create some shots. We need a middle presence and better PG play. I agree that he is no true center and not a "talented big" but he is also not chopped liver. He is a guy that can make do, and we didn't even have that last year. 3. I also hope so based on 2. a seven footer is a seven footer. He does eat up space and get rebounds. He is a tall boy in the middle that forces the game outside. He has never really put it all together and is a foul machine... but he is far better than nothing! I think OSU is a team that is not perfect, and wouldn't challenge in the dance... but given some leadership, direction and good execution can win a bunch of games. next year I think we can regain some lost traction and get straightened out again. Eubanks and N'Diaye each have a ton of upside. I do not think that we have seen either one's top floor. However, it is tough to justify them both staying. If Eubanks stays, N'Diaye probably should move on. He could be a big piece (pun intended) to a team in a second-tier conference. However, he is just not going to see the minutes, if Eubanks stays. That would also free up Oregon State to bring in McIntosh, who can help. If Eubanks declares, N'Diaye should stay, as he will undoubtedly help. So the answer to 2 is yes. 1 and 3 each have their pros and cons. I would prefer N'Diaye stay but not at the expense of McIntosh. Also, it is not a surprise, but because no one has posted it yet: Stephen Thompson Jr. withdraws from NBA draft.
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Post by beavsinorange on May 16, 2017 20:47:23 GMT -8
Well said Wilky about N'Diaye. I always felt he has tons of upside. Especially, his presence on defense. Glad Stevie is back. I think him and Tinkle play really well together. Can't wait for Ethan.
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Post by ochobeavo on May 17, 2017 6:37:05 GMT -8
3 questions:
1) Does Drew come back? Deadline to withdraw is May 24
2) Do the Beavers sign Mcintosh, the grad transfer from Illinois State who could come in and be a big contributor?
3) Does N'Diaye return? (There is only 1 slot left if Drew comes back so the answer to all 3 questions cant be yes) 1. Contrary to all the "no" votes, I think he actually does come back. He doesn't have other options and regardless of attitude or his true intentions, it will be framed as "learned what I needed to work on, was a great experience, happy to be back for another year.. Go Beavs" Just a hunch... 2. Yes 3. No
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on May 17, 2017 7:21:26 GMT -8
I think we see Eubanks stay. If N'Diaye sticks around it would be nice to see Big G and he fill the post position and get Eubanks to where he's not primarily playing post. If Eubanks could effectively handle the transition to a slightly more outside spot it would be good for the Beavs and for his NBA aspirations. I still wonder if N'Diaye wants to stick around or move on. If he does we'll probably see another wing player arrive and Eubanks spend at least a third of his time at post.
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Post by shelby on May 17, 2017 10:57:40 GMT -8
Mike Parker and Jim Wilson, during baseball coverage last night, 'hinted' heavily towards Drew returning. I also do not understand the negative talk on his attitude. What I saw, on and off the court, was a focused intensity on the opposition. Never saw any coach: bench issues. Only 'remote' thing I saw was him announcing for NBA - but, so what, many guys go through that process. I agree that he needs further development, but he seems to be very skilled and a quick learner with a high motor. I wish him the best however his future plans play out.Don't want to see him end up overseas.
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