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Post by beavaristotle on May 9, 2017 13:04:54 GMT -8
TEAM. #3 #4 OSU 4.28 3.03 LVILLE 1.92 5.49 N. CAR 2.72 3.96 TX TECH 5.97 2.95 FLA 3.79 1.90 TCU 2.25 3.72 MISS ST 4.63 4.93 CLEM 2.49 350 KENT 4.41 3.99 LB ST 1.83 2.36
based on games started, obviously fluid but gives a reference point
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Post by beavadelic on May 9, 2017 14:18:44 GMT -8
TEAM. #3 #4 OSU 4.28 3.03 LVILLE 1.92 5.49 N. CAR 2.72 3.96 TX TECH 5.97 2.95 FLA 3.79 1.90 TCU 2.25 3.72 MISS ST 4.63 4.93 CLEM 2.49 350 KENT 4.41 3.99 LB ST 1.83 2.36
based on games started, obviously fluid but gives a reference point I may be misreading the data, but isn't Jake our #3 starter? His ERA is crazy good (1.6?). Maybe this is measuring something else?
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Post by ochobeavo on May 9, 2017 14:43:24 GMT -8
I believe he's basing it on games started. LH/JT have started 12 games each. BF has started 11 and ST has started 6 (and has 3.03 ERA).
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Post by ricke71 on May 9, 2017 15:26:23 GMT -8
TEAM. #3 #4 OSU 4.28 3.03 LVILLE 1.92 5.49 N. CAR 2.72 3.96 TX TECH 5.97 2.95 FLA 3.79 1.90 TCU 2.25 3.72 MISS ST 4.63 4.93 CLEM 2.49 350 KENT 4.41 3.99 LB ST 1.83 2.36
based on games started, obviously fluid but gives a reference point I may be misreading the data, but isn't Jake our #3 starter? His ERA is crazy good (1.6?). Maybe this is measuring something else? Though Jake is indeed our current Sunday guy, if considered in the context of Depth Chart, rather than rotation order, Jake is clearly #2, bordering on #1. In a depth chart sense, Fehmel is #3, bordering on #4.
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Post by codyd70 on May 9, 2017 18:26:51 GMT -8
I may be misreading the data, but isn't Jake our #3 starter? His ERA is crazy good (1.6?). Maybe this is measuring something else? Though Jake is indeed our current Sunday guy, if considered in the context of Depth Chart, rather than rotation order, Jake is clearly #2, bordering on #1. In a depth chart sense, Fehmel is #3, bordering on #4. In that case some changes need to be made on the list for consistency. Clemsons "#3" guy has the best ERA on the team. N. Carolinas 3 guy isnt even in the weekend rotation
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Post by codyd70 on May 9, 2017 20:10:39 GMT -8
Here is ERAs for weekend starters and Closers with 3 or more saves
OSU 0.71 1.20 4.28 0.66 5sv 1.42 5sv Lville 1.92 2.42 3.07 1.29 14sv NC 1.51 2.37 4.02 1.15 13sv T. Tech 1.57 2.95 3.70 2.23 4sv 2.37 5sv 3.86 4sv UF 2.23 2.42 3.79 1.90 13sv Tcu 2.25 4.71 4.74 3.15 11sv Miss st 3.57 3.82 4.63 2.03 14sv Clem 2.49 2.93 3.76 1.63 4sv 3.45 3sv Kentucky3.12 3.46 4.41 1.50 8sv LBSU 1.83 3.15 3.97 2.82 7sv 2.17 4sv
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 9, 2017 22:19:09 GMT -8
Here is ERAs for weekend starters and Closers with 3 or more saves OSU 0.71 1.20 4.28 0.66 5sv 1.42 5sv Lville 1.92 2.42 3.07 1.29 14sv NC 1.51 2.37 4.02 1.15 13sv T. Tech 1.57 2.95 3.70 2.23 4sv 2.37 5sv 3.86 4sv UF 2.23 2.42 3.79 1.90 13sv Tcu 2.25 4.71 4.74 3.15 11sv Miss st 3.57 3.82 4.63 2.03 14sv Clem 2.49 2.93 3.76 1.63 4sv 3.45 3sv Kentucky3.12 3.46 4.41 1.50 8sv LBSU 1.83 3.15 3.97 2.82 7sv 2.17 4sv Some great stuff here. One projection has Oregon State as a one, Fullerton as a two, New Meixco as a three, and Fairfield as a four. In that regional, how do you think Casey uses the staff?
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Post by codyd70 on May 9, 2017 23:02:55 GMT -8
Here is ERAs for weekend starters and Closers with 3 or more saves OSU 0.71 1.20 4.28 0.66 5sv 1.42 5sv Lville 1.92 2.42 3.07 1.29 14sv NC 1.51 2.37 4.02 1.15 13sv T. Tech 1.57 2.95 3.70 2.23 4sv 2.37 5sv 3.86 4sv UF 2.23 2.42 3.79 1.90 13sv Tcu 2.25 4.71 4.74 3.15 11sv Miss st 3.57 3.82 4.63 2.03 14sv Clem 2.49 2.93 3.76 1.63 4sv 3.45 3sv Kentucky3.12 3.46 4.41 1.50 8sv LBSU 1.83 3.15 3.97 2.82 7sv 2.17 4sv Some great stuff here. One projection has Oregon State as a one, Fullerton as a two, New Meixco as a three, and Fairfield as a four. In that regional, how do you think Casey uses the staff? My guess would be Heimlich and Thompson in the first 2 games. Unless Drew is pitching well at that time he might go in the 1st game. As lighty as you want to take that first game its so important to get the win. Also having no real dropoff on the 2nd day is a nice luxury. Assuming the 1st 2 games are wins, throwing Heimlich 1st also gives a chance to use him in some innings if a 4th game is needed.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2017 6:12:21 GMT -8
Some great stuff here. One projection has Oregon State as a one, Fullerton as a two, New Meixco as a three, and Fairfield as a four. In that regional, how do you think Casey uses the staff? My guess would be Heimlich and Thompson in the first 2 games. Unless Drew is pitching well at that time he might go in the 1st game. As lighty as you want to take that first game its so important to get the win. Also having no real dropoff on the 2nd day is a nice luxury. Assuming the 1st 2 games are wins, throwing Heimlich 1st also gives a chance to use him in some innings if a 4th game is needed. i really don't expect any adversity in this run to the championship . It will be smooth as chicken stew all the way to the top. Its in the cards.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 10, 2017 12:17:21 GMT -8
Some great stuff here. One projection has Oregon State as a one, Fullerton as a two, New Mexico as a three, and Fairfield as a four. In that regional, how do you think Casey uses the staff? My guess would be Heimlich and Thompson in the first 2 games. Unless Drew is pitching well at that time he might go in the 1st game. As lighty as you want to take that first game its so important to get the win. Also having no real dropoff on the 2nd day is a nice luxury. Assuming the 1st 2 games are wins, throwing Heimlich 1st also gives a chance to use him in some innings if a 4th game is needed. The first two games are equally as important in my book, as a loss in either puts you in the loser's bracket and forces you to win four to advance. In fact, I would argue that winning the second is more important as a loss in the second leaves you with less rest for the double-header on Sunday. You are talking about bringing Heimlich or Thompson on two days rest to pitch in the championship game. Does Heimlich or Thompson have the more Nickersonesque arm? Nickerson threw on two and three days' rest in the College World Series. If need be, could Heimlich or Thompson throw 6 2/3 innings on Monday ala Nickerson in the 2006 College World Series, or are we talking about one or two innings at most?
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on May 10, 2017 12:33:46 GMT -8
My guess would be Heimlich and Thompson in the first 2 games. Unless Drew is pitching well at that time he might go in the 1st game. As lighty as you want to take that first game its so important to get the win. Also having no real dropoff on the 2nd day is a nice luxury. Assuming the 1st 2 games are wins, throwing Heimlich 1st also gives a chance to use him in some innings if a 4th game is needed. i really don't expect any adversity in this run to the championship . It will be smooth as chicken stew all the way to the top. Its in the cards. Now, y'see, Jack, that's exactly the attitude that lost you the Pearl. Let's at least wait and see what the Regional looks like. Fullerton is floating out there as a two seed. If the Titans wind up in Stanford or Tucson, I feel better about everything. Texas is also floating as a two or three. The Longhorns are very sound fundamentally and can cause the Beavers matchup problems. If the Corvallis Regional includes Fullerton and Texas and a sleeper for a four-seed, I am going to be a lot less smiles and sunshine than one that includes a St. John's as a two-seed. Also, if Stanford can get itself into position to be a national seed, that may help avoid a pairing with the Long Beach Regional. (A Long Beach-Stanford pairing seems to make more sense.) I feel better about having an overrated ACC/Big Ten/SEC team travelling all of the way across the country to Corvallis than Long Beach or a second-tier Pac-12 team making a much shorter trek. If 2014-2016 have taught us anything, it is that nothing comes easy for Oregon State, ever. I do not care if this is football or baseball or horseshoes. Nothing comes easy for Oregon State.
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Post by mbabeav on May 10, 2017 13:58:25 GMT -8
OSU Bullpen ~2.03 UO Bullpen ~~6.77
Ducks really rough estimate based on judgment of appearances vs innings pitched - but this is all I am focused on, this weekend, right now, one series at a time.
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Post by codyd70 on May 10, 2017 14:55:31 GMT -8
My guess would be Heimlich and Thompson in the first 2 games. Unless Drew is pitching well at that time he might go in the 1st game. As lighty as you want to take that first game its so important to get the win. Also having no real dropoff on the 2nd day is a nice luxury. Assuming the 1st 2 games are wins, throwing Heimlich 1st also gives a chance to use him in some innings if a 4th game is needed. The first two games are equally as important in my book, as a loss in either puts you in the loser's bracket and forces you to win four to advance. In fact, I would argue that winning the second is more important as a loss in the second leaves you with less rest for the double-header on Sunday. You are talking about bringing Heimlich or Thompson on two days rest to pitch in the championship game. Does Heimlich or Thompson have the more Nickersonesque arm? Nickerson threw on two and three days' rest in the College World Series. If need be, could Heimlich or Thompson throw 6 2/3 innings on Monday ala Nickerson in the 2006 College World Series, or are we talking about one or two innings at most? Was thinking one or two innings. Have someone else start and bring Luke on in relief if needed.
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