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Post by fumblerooski on May 1, 2017 9:54:00 GMT -8
NBA sent out invitations to this years combine. Drew and Stevie were not on the list (not even on the alternates list). Hopefully they still get quality feedback but then realize they're not top picks and can increase their stock by coming back for two more years.
NBA Draft Combine Invitees
PLAYER, SCHOOL Bam Adebayo, Kentucky Andrew Jones, Texas*
Rawle Alkins, Arizona* Luke Kennard, Duke
Jarrett Allen, Texas Kyle Kuzma, Utah*
Kadeem Allen, Arizona T.J. Leaf, UCLA
Ike Anigbogu, UCLA Tyler Lydon, Syracuse
OG Anunoby, Indiana Lauri Markkanen, Arizona
Dwayne Bacon, Florida State Frank Mason, Kansas
Lonzo Ball, UCLA Kennedy Meeks, North Carolina
Jordan Bell, Oregon Eric Mika, BYU*
Jaron Blossomgame, Clemson Donovan Mitchell, Louisville*
Tony Bradley, North Carolina* Monte Morris, Iowa State
Isaiah Briscoe, Kentucky Malik Monk, Kentucky
Dillon Brooks, Oregon Johnathan Motley, Baylor*
Thomas Bryant, Indiana* Semi Ojeleye, SMU*
John Collins, Wake Forest Cam Oliver, Nevada*
Zach Collins, Gonzaga Justin Patton, Creighton
Hamidou Diallo, Kentucky* Davon Reed, Miami
Tyler Dorsey, Oregon Devin Robinson, Florida
Damyean Dotson, Houston Kobi Simmons, Arizona
P.J. Dozier, South Carolina Dennis Smith Jr., N.C. State
Jawun Evans, Oklahoma State Edmond Sumner, Xavier
De'Aaron Fox, Kentucky Caleb Swanigan, Purdue*
Markelle Fultz, Washington Jayson Tatum, Duke
Harry Giles, Duke Sindarius Thornwell, South Carolina
Josh Hart, Villanova Melo Trimble, Maryland
Isaiah Hicks, North Carolina Moritz Wagner, Michigan*
Jonathan Isaac, Florida State Thomas Welsh, UCLA
Wesley Iwundu, Kansas State Derrick White, Colorado
Frank Jackson, Duke* Nigel Williams-Goss, Gonzaga
Josh Jackson, Kansas D.J. Wilson, Michigan*
Justin Jackson, Maryland* Omer Yurtseven, NC State*
Justin Jackson, North Carolina
>> Alternates:
Deng Adel (Louisville), Chris Boucher (Oregon),
Trevon Bluiett (Xavier), L.J. Peak (Georgetown), Derrick Walton (Michigan)
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Post by blackbug on May 1, 2017 9:58:32 GMT -8
Do not know much about the combine, but by my count there are 68 on the list. It seems like you would want to evaluate at least 2 players for every draft choice, which would be much more than the 68 players.
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Post by nabeav on May 1, 2017 10:42:27 GMT -8
Well, the NFL Combine invited 330 players this year, and 253 got drafted. NBA inviting 68 for 60 draft spots isn't that far off.
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Post by beavadelic on May 1, 2017 11:33:20 GMT -8
NBA sent out invitations to this years combine. Drew and Stevie were not on the list (not even on the alternates list). Hopefully they still get quality feedback but then realize they're not top picks and can increase their stock by coming back for two more years. NBA Draft Combine Invitees PLAYER, SCHOOL Bam Adebayo, Kentucky Andrew Jones, Texas* Rawle Alkins, Arizona* Luke Kennard, Duke Jarrett Allen, Texas Kyle Kuzma, Utah* Kadeem Allen, Arizona T.J. Leaf, UCLA Ike Anigbogu, UCLA Tyler Lydon, Syracuse OG Anunoby, Indiana Lauri Markkanen, Arizona Dwayne Bacon, Florida State Frank Mason, Kansas Lonzo Ball, UCLA Kennedy Meeks, North Carolina Jordan Bell, Oregon Eric Mika, BYU* Jaron Blossomgame, Clemson Donovan Mitchell, Louisville* Tony Bradley, North Carolina* Monte Morris, Iowa State Isaiah Briscoe, Kentucky Malik Monk, Kentucky Dillon Brooks, Oregon Johnathan Motley, Baylor* Thomas Bryant, Indiana* Semi Ojeleye, SMU* John Collins, Wake Forest Cam Oliver, Nevada* Zach Collins, Gonzaga Justin Patton, Creighton Hamidou Diallo, Kentucky* Davon Reed, Miami Tyler Dorsey, Oregon Devin Robinson, Florida Damyean Dotson, Houston Kobi Simmons, Arizona P.J. Dozier, South Carolina Dennis Smith Jr., N.C. State Jawun Evans, Oklahoma State Edmond Sumner, Xavier De'Aaron Fox, Kentucky Caleb Swanigan, Purdue* Markelle Fultz, Washington Jayson Tatum, Duke Harry Giles, Duke Sindarius Thornwell, South Carolina Josh Hart, Villanova Melo Trimble, Maryland Isaiah Hicks, North Carolina Moritz Wagner, Michigan* Jonathan Isaac, Florida State Thomas Welsh, UCLA Wesley Iwundu, Kansas State Derrick White, Colorado Frank Jackson, Duke* Nigel Williams-Goss, Gonzaga Josh Jackson, Kansas D.J. Wilson, Michigan* Justin Jackson, Maryland* Omer Yurtseven, NC State* Justin Jackson, North Carolina >> Alternates: Deng Adel (Louisville), Chris Boucher (Oregon), Trevon Bluiett (Xavier), L.J. Peak (Georgetown), Derrick Walton (Michigan) I was kind of sorry to see Williams-Goss' name on there. Hope he hasn't hired an agent. Great kid from the Portland area, and a really nice player for UW and last year for Gonzaga. I'm not a Zags "fan", but I like the way they play and the program that Few has developed. They are probably losing the Collins kid early, and losing Williams-Goss would be a big loss (unless he actually was a senior last year - I think he only played 2 at UW, sat out last year, and blew up to lead Gonzaga deep in the tourney!)
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Post by ochobeavo on May 1, 2017 14:46:53 GMT -8
NWG is a junior and was going to hire an agent. Most of the mock drafts I've seen have him in the 2nd round.
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Post by blackbug on May 1, 2017 15:39:27 GMT -8
Well, the NFL Combine invited 330 players this year, and 253 got drafted. NBA inviting 68 for 60 draft spots isn't that far off. Okay. I guess the teams really only want to evaluate a little more players than will be drafted in these sports at combines. I have been wondering why these teams haven't hired me to be GM. I wonder how the chances compare if you do not get invited to a combine to be drafted in the NBA and NFL versus being invited.
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Post by ochobeavo on May 2, 2017 10:19:46 GMT -8
Maybe Drew is an alternate to the alternates? Or an alternate to the alternate alternates?
Either way, unless you're heart is set on Latvia (no offense to any Benny's House Latvians), let's come back to school Drew.
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Post by Tigardbeav on May 4, 2017 20:03:50 GMT -8
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Post by ochobeavo on May 5, 2017 6:45:42 GMT -8
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on May 5, 2017 7:35:54 GMT -8
Scary. Interesting.
Either Drew is getting some advice/inspiration that is very counter to what the non-invite to the combine should be telling him.... Or he is done with school. Or he is a youngster who has dreams and aspirations that he feels he is ready for, despite what the world is trying to tell him (or not, if there truly is a parade of NBA scouts wearing a path to Tinkle's door).
Depends on whether you have come to college to get a degree, or it is just a stepping stone to a professional playing career. I hope he makes good choices (for him), but at current course and speed (from my perspective) he just might join that long list of Beavers playing hoops in countries and leagues I was not very aware of.....
Go Beavs!
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Post by bill82 on May 5, 2017 9:04:33 GMT -8
Two quotes from article that concern me: 1) "Coach Tinkle has made it clear that they want what's best for me even if the team might suffer," Eubanks said. "... If they produce players that go professional, that can only help them because it opens up recruiting."First, looking at the long list of players that we have in professional leagues around the world, I do not see how that has boosted our recruiting over the years. Second, if Tinkle is going to play the "we are too young to compete" card to explain last season, I don't see that squaring with helping players leave early - leaving a team heavy in underclassmen. 2) "Eubanks trained at Impact Basketball in Las Vegas during OSU's spring break, where he said he spent three hours per day in one-on-one workouts. Rather than post moves, Eubanks primarily worked on extending his range, developing his catch-and-shoot skills and shooting off the dribble around the perimeter."If we need a post-up player for our offense, Eubanks' NBA training regiment does nothing for the team. If he comes back, will he dictate how he is used? This seems like a potentially toxic situation. It also seems to reflect the same problems Tinkle said he had with the team last year. No one would listen to him. Are we stuck in recruiting pergatory? Can't get the one-and-done pipeline of players that can compete in the league, and instead settle for marginal prospects that put their NBA hopes above the team game?
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2017 10:25:37 GMT -8
Two quotes from article that concern me: 1) "Coach Tinkle has made it clear that they want what's best for me even if the team might suffer," Eubanks said. "... If they produce players that go professional, that can only help them because it opens up recruiting."First, looking at the long list of players that we have in professional leagues around the world, I do not see how that has boosted our recruiting over the years. Second, if Tinkle is going to play the "we are too young to compete" card to explain last season, I don't see that squaring with helping players leave early - leaving a team heavy in underclassmen. 2) "Eubanks trained at Impact Basketball in Las Vegas during OSU's spring break, where he said he spent three hours per day in one-on-one workouts. Rather than post moves, Eubanks primarily worked on extending his range, developing his catch-and-shoot skills and shooting off the dribble around the perimeter."If we need a post-up player for our offense, Eubanks' NBA training regiment does nothing for the team. If he comes back, will he dictate how he is used? This seems like a potentially toxic situation. It also seems to reflect the same problems Tinkle said he had with the team last year. No one would listen to him. Are we stuck in recruiting pergatory? Can't get the one-and-done pipeline of players that can compete in the league, and instead settle for marginal prospects that put their NBA hopes above the team game? Might as well forget about Drew coming back. He has told everyone he knows that he is done playing at OS. Heard it from those close to him. He wants to play pro ball but if it doesnt work out he is done playing college ball anyway. Not rumor mongering, actually did hear this.
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Post by baseba1111 on May 5, 2017 11:03:22 GMT -8
Two quotes from article that concern me: 1) "Coach Tinkle has made it clear that they want what's best for me even if the team might suffer," Eubanks said. "... If they produce players that go professional, that can only help them because it opens up recruiting."First, looking at the long list of players that we have in professional leagues around the world, I do not see how that has boosted our recruiting over the years. Second, if Tinkle is going to play the "we are too young to compete" card to explain last season, I don't see that squaring with helping players leave early - leaving a team heavy in underclassmen. 2) "Eubanks trained at Impact Basketball in Las Vegas during OSU's spring break, where he said he spent three hours per day in one-on-one workouts. Rather than post moves, Eubanks primarily worked on extending his range, developing his catch-and-shoot skills and shooting off the dribble around the perimeter."If we need a post-up player for our offense, Eubanks' NBA training regiment does nothing for the team. If he comes back, will he dictate how he is used? This seems like a potentially toxic situation. It also seems to reflect the same problems Tinkle said he had with the team last year. No one would listen to him. Are we stuck in recruiting pergatory? Can't get the one-and-done pipeline of players that can compete in the league, and instead settle for marginal prospects that put their NBA hopes above the team game? Sometimes as a coach what's "best for the player" is coach speak for "Its best for the program". This is one issue I'd not worry about. I've never interacted with Drew on a personal level, but there are people surrounding Drew who have vastly over estimated his talent level. From the time they also thought he was a sure fire D1 pitcher. I'm fairly certain this might be a very amicable parting. As far as recruiting, when you hire a HC from a smaller D1 school he's been recruiting against vastly different competition. To be successful at Montana you do not need the level of players you need at OSU. So, it takes a while to build a rep, but after a tourney year last year was more than "2 steps back". This year is hugely important for our recruiting future... hanging in to commits and garnering new interest.
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Post by bill82 on May 5, 2017 11:33:35 GMT -8
As far as recruiting, when you hire a HC from a smaller D1 school he's been recruiting against vastly different competition. To be successful at Montana you do not need the level of players you need at OSU. So, it takes a while to build a rep, but after a tourney year last year was more than "2 steps back". This year is hugely important for our recruiting future... hanging in to commits and garnering new interest. Agree on the challenge of moving up from Montana. It was probably wishful thinking that school would produce another great like Mike Montgomery. I'm sure the new AD has a short-list of candidates if this next season starts off like this last one. Hopefully we'll get one like Rueck that can recruit character and talent. It seems Tinkle has not been able to find and sign players willing to be coached (I'm basing this on Tinkle's comments at post-game press conferences).
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on May 5, 2017 11:34:14 GMT -8
I see a good number of years living abroad in Drew's future. If he could stick it out one more year and improve his ability to handle the ball and drive to the basket from the outside he'd probably get drafted next year.
Sometimes when you're done you're done. Europe, Australia, the Orient, not such a bad place to be for a young guy.
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