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An Appeal
Apr 22, 2017 18:05:36 GMT -8
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Post by justdamwin on Apr 22, 2017 18:05:36 GMT -8
And one the announcers don't agree with.
Wow.
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Post by Beavcat on Apr 22, 2017 18:40:32 GMT -8
And one the announcers don't agree with. Wow. So how does that work? Who makes the call? |
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An Appeal
Apr 22, 2017 18:45:49 GMT -8
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Post by justdamwin on Apr 22, 2017 18:45:49 GMT -8
And one the announcers don't agree with. Wow. So how does that work? Who makes the call? Umpire but tv coverage didn't show Rutschman so all I can use as rwfeeence other than call is announcer but thanks |
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Post by Beavcat on Apr 22, 2017 18:52:36 GMT -8
Announcers just said the third base umpire made the call AFTER the runner crossed home and the appeal was made. Why wouldn't he make the call as soon as he saw the violation?
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Post by tamatrix on Apr 22, 2017 18:56:51 GMT -8
You can't make the call until the appeal happens. That's the rule. There is no call to make until then.
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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 22, 2017 19:06:50 GMT -8
You can't make the call until the appeal happens. That's the rule. Three is no call to make until then. First... the 3rd base ump was not in the correct position to see the tag and catch... he was barely in foul territory had no line of site thru to catch. Second... and not sure why PC dud not come out... it was an illegal appeal. HP ump had called time to sweep the plate. The pitcher got the ball from the catcher and was told to run over and get ball to 3B. Ball was never put back into play properly after the TO by HP ump. |
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Post by sagebrush on Apr 22, 2017 19:40:38 GMT -8
Terrible mechanics. 3b needs to line up the bag and the catch. Ball must be in play for an appeal to be made. HS rule is easier. There is no appeal. If you see it, you call it.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 24, 2017 14:07:30 GMT -8
You can't make the call until the appeal happens. That's the rule. Three is no call to make until then. First... the 3rd base ump was not in the correct position to see the tag and catch... he was barely in foul territory had no line of site thru to catch. Second... and not sure why PC dud not come out... it was an illegal appeal. HP ump had called time to sweep the plate. The pitcher got the ball from the catcher and was told to run over and get ball to 3B. Ball was never put back into play properly after the TO by HP ump. Not arguing, more curiosity. Isn't that being a tad over-technical? If the pitcher waits for the home plate umpire to finish sweeping the plate, wouldn't the result be the same? Still out? |
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Post by beaver55to7 on Apr 24, 2017 14:25:04 GMT -8
First... the 3rd base ump was not in the correct position to see the tag and catch... he was barely in foul territory had no line of site thru to catch. Second... and not sure why PC dud not come out... it was an illegal appeal. HP ump had called time to sweep the plate. The pitcher got the ball from the catcher and was told to run over and get ball to 3B. Ball was never put back into play properly after the TO by HP ump. Not arguing, more curiosity. Isn't that being a tad over-technical? If the pitcher waits for the home plate umpire to finish sweeping the plate, wouldn't the result be the same? Still out? I think the answer is yes, over-technical, in that situation. If other runners had been on base, then maybe the home plate ump or PC makes a stink about it, ie Put the ball in play and take your chances on throwing one over the third basemens head allowing the runner/s to advance. But since the bases were clear, there was really no reason to make them do it over...unless the homeplate ump really doesn't like the third base ump and wants to show him up. I guess you take away the chance for the pitcher to balk, which maybe would eliminate the chance to appeal? That is getting pretty far down into the weeds though. |
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An Appeal
Apr 24, 2017 17:47:32 GMT -8
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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 24, 2017 17:47:32 GMT -8
First... the 3rd base ump was not in the correct position to see the tag and catch... he was barely in foul territory had no line of site thru to catch. Second... and not sure why PC dud not come out... it was an illegal appeal. HP ump had called time to sweep the plate. The pitcher got the ball from the catcher and was told to run over and get ball to 3B. Ball was never put back into play properly after the TO by HP ump. Not arguing, more curiosity. Isn't that being a tad over-technical? If the pitcher waits for the home plate umpire to finish sweeping the plate, wouldn't the result be the same? Still out? I believe... it used to be that if you make an illegal appeal you could not then wait and appeal properly. It's one of the reasons HS rules do not have appeals. Kids and coaches (and HS umps!) did not know the rule or kids would throw it away... if other runners who then advanced then became a discussion. But, the worst part of the play was the 3B ump and his mechanics. There was no way he was in position to see catch/tag. And, it was Savage who actually called the play for/deeked the ump. The crew this weekend was a circus in every way and I was really surprised PC stayed in the dugout as much as he did. BUT... there are times you know a crew is so bad that arguing / embarrassing them will just cost you in the long run. Addition by subtraction might have been PC's thinking there?! |
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Post by 56chevy on Apr 24, 2017 19:44:57 GMT -8
Having been to the Stanford, Washington and UCLA games it seems the differences in strike zones has been substantial. At Stanford it was fairly traditional. At UCLA they were giving the UCLA pitchers what seemed like beyond the chalk line of the left handers batters box for our right handed hitters. At Washington it was somewhere in between and inconsistent. When the Umps call balls and strikes consistent and straight up our batters crush it, as they did at Stanford. I have no concerns about our offense. The Pac-12 has got to do better than that bologna we saw over the weekend.
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