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Post by rollotomasi on Apr 18, 2017 7:35:21 GMT -8
There is no bigger series in the conference this weekend. #1 vs #2(tied) pac-12.com/baseball/standingsInstead, we get - AZ(#2 tied) vs Utah(#10) UW(#4) vs Wazzugly(#11) Cal(#5) vs Furd(#7) Wasn't this the point of having the 6 networks, plus the national network? Coverage of the regional action? At this point, it doesn't look like UCLA is even offering a live stream... Yes, I'm aware that Saturday's game is on ESPNU. Yay, perhaps the only sports channel with lesser viewership than Pac-12 network... |
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Post by mbabeav on Apr 18, 2017 8:11:28 GMT -8
There is no bigger series in the conference this weekend. #1 vs #2(tied) pac-12.com/baseball/standingsInstead, we get - AZ(#2 tied) vs Utah(#10) UW(#4) vs Wazzugly(#11) Cal(#5) vs Furd(#7) Wasn't this the point of having the 6 networks, plus the national network? Coverage of the regional action? At this point, it doesn't look like UCLA is even offering a live stream... Yes, I'm aware that Saturday's game is on ESPNU. Yay, perhaps the only sports channel with lesser viewership than Pac-12 network... Yep, not even a computer feed on Pac12/Bonus - that sucks |
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Post by joeavocado on Apr 18, 2017 8:18:09 GMT -8
I agree. Never has a #1 team languished in obscurity for so long not only nationally, but by it's own conference. Does the PAC-12 network pick the baseball television schedule in January and then just roll it out regardless of the standings? About 95% of the PAC-12 network programming is a complete waste of time. Meanwhile there are multiple SEC baseball games on ESPN networks throughout the week, reinforcing the perception the SEC is the best at everything.
I've reached the point where I wish they would just dump the PAC-12 network and let others pick up the games. Most of the country doesn't even know the PAC-12 network exists, it's done nothing to increase the exposure of the PAC-12, I think it's held the conference back compared to other leagues, just what the PAC-12 was trying to avoid.
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Post by joeavocado on Apr 18, 2017 8:22:40 GMT -8
P.S. To make it doubly embarrassing, UCLA is playing the #1 team in the country a couple miles from the television capitol of the world, and they can't get a camera set up behind home plate? A lot of D2 schools live stream baseball AND softball games, but not UCLA? Bush league.
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Post by badwack on Apr 18, 2017 8:29:15 GMT -8
Just amazing. Not even Steaming. Note even the U of Portland ran a really nice Live Streaming. UCLA can't do the same? PAC-12 is soo damn irritating! On Dish there are about 6 open channels for the Pac 12 doing absolutely nothing.
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Post by beaverama1 on Apr 18, 2017 8:47:03 GMT -8
I believe UCLA is the only school in the conference that doesn't have live streaming of their baseball games so some of the blame goes on their athletic department.
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Post by ochobeavo on Apr 18, 2017 9:00:21 GMT -8
I agree. Never has a #1 team languished in obscurity for so long not only nationally, but by it's own conference. Does the PAC-12 network pick the baseball television schedule in January and then just roll it out regardless of the standings? About 95% of the PAC-12 network programming is a complete waste of time. Meanwhile there are multiple SEC baseball games on ESPN networks throughout the week, reinforcing the perception the SEC is the best at everything. I've reached the point where I wish they would just dump the PAC-12 network and let others pick up the games. Most of the country doesn't even know the PAC-12 network exists, it's done nothing to increase the exposure of the PAC-12, I think it's held the conference back compared to other leagues, just what the PAC-12 was trying to avoid. They announced the TV schedule back in March. That I get... I guess... and we're on 2nd most times behind Zona. But UCLA not even streaming - that's really unbelievable. I know of a local community college that streams most, if not all of their home games in multiple sports. Also still unbelievable -> that P12 still isn't available on Directv (year 5?). Well played. Anyhow, rant over, I'll get back to watching the 1996 Apple Cup replay... |
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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 18, 2017 9:02:04 GMT -8
Ya... lets toss the $20+ mil (total TV package revenue) or so that helps keep us remotely competitive financially because every baseball game is not shown.
Is it perfect? Even close? But we get to see a LOT more OSU sports action than before it's existence and a boatload of cash. Which was the true intent of the network deals... $$
The blame here is solely on UCLA for all the reasons mentioned above. It's embarrassing they don't stream.
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Post by Tigardbeav on Apr 18, 2017 9:18:45 GMT -8
I believe UCLA is the only school in the conference that doesn't have live streaming of their baseball games so some of the blame goes on their athletic department. IIRC UCLA does not own the stadium. I think it's the VA or something. So upgrades have been hard to come by. Parker did a game about 10 years ago on his cell phone and set up on an overturned garbage can. A couple years ago 2013(?) there was a lot of press there that took Parker's booth. He was broadcasting outside with almost no support from UCLA AD. It's hard for Parker to know what to bring to hook up to their system. Except everything in the bag |
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Post by nabeav on Apr 18, 2017 10:47:16 GMT -8
Yeah, it's a bummer they aren't on TV anywhere, but I just checked Louisville's baseball schedule....one of their games has been on the SEC network (vs. Kentucky) thus far, and everything else is on ACC Sports Extra (their version of online streaming). LSU, the top rated SEC team, has had one game on ESPN2, one game on ESPNU, and a few preseason tournament games against B1G teams on FSN. The rest have been online through SECN+. College baseball just isn't a big draw. We're not getting slighted by anyone, we just are getting spoiled by all this video access we have these days. Shoot, it wasn't that long ago that baseball games weren't even played on the radio in the Portland area, if I recall.
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Post by atownbeaver on Apr 18, 2017 10:54:00 GMT -8
Ya... lets toss the $20+ mil or so that helps keep us remotely competitive financially because every baseball game is not shown. Is it perfect? Even close? Butn we get to see a LOT more OSU sports action than before it's existence and a boatload of cash. Which was the true intent of the network... $$ The blame here is solely on UCLA for all the reasons mentioned above. It's embarrassing they don't stream. I will agree it is annoying, and it is frustrating, but I have to agree. Pac-12 network is, overall, a massive net gain compared to where we were 5 years ago. I am not sure I saw ANY baseball games on TV that were not regional/Omaha related prior to Pac-12 network. College Baseball just doesn't pull. I have seen soccer, gymnastics, volleyball and wrestling on the Pac-12 network. How much of any of that did you get before? Think about it, Oregon state is the second best draw in the Pac-12, and the 23rd in the nation in 2016... 2,600 fans is what we get to a game on average. This is not the SEC, that gets 10K, 9K or 8K a game. We do not have the weather or the attention here. |
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Post by OSUprof on Apr 18, 2017 11:24:06 GMT -8
Fact check:
The actual distribution of money from the Pac-12 network to each school is $1.5 million per year. The $25 million figure distributed to each school is from the Pac 12 CONFERENCE (not network) contract with ESPN and Fox. We sincerely appreciate the $1.5 million that the network brings to the school but it hardly makes a dent in a $70+ million annual budget. Our take from Nike is $2.2 million per year.
The Pac-12 network has many problems including the fact that it's a poorly conceived business model - a conference owning a network with no ownership or partnership from mass media professionals such as ESPN or Fox. And no DirecTV is a revenue killer. The SEC network is an ESPN product and it generates $7.5 million for each school per year.
But the lack of UCLA baseball coverage is not a big problem by comparison. We'll be fine.
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Post by rollotomasi on Apr 18, 2017 11:39:49 GMT -8
Fact check: The actual distribution of money from the Pac-12 network to each school is $1.5 million per year. The $25 million figure distributed to each school is from the Pac 12 CONFERENCE (not network) contract with ESPN and Fox. We sincerely appreciate the $1.5 million that the network brings to the school but it hardly makes a dent in a $70+ million annual budget. Our take from Nike is $2.2 million per year. The Pac-12 network has many problems including the fact that it's a poorly conceived business model - a conference owning a network with no ownership or partnership from mass media professionals such as ESPN or Fox. And no DirecTV is a revenue killer. The SEC network is an ESPN product and it generates $7.5 million for each school per year. But the lack of UCLA baseball coverage is not a big problem by comparison. We'll be fine. That is all true. And it is all separate from my point. This is 2017, and any 13 year old kid can broadcast a live video of anything at anytime on Facebook Live with a cell phone. The fact that our series is not being broadcast or streamed in any way is the issue. And it can only be chalked up to laziness or incompetence or both. Supposedly seven networks were spun up to handle this exact thing. |
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Post by Beavcat on Apr 18, 2017 11:55:20 GMT -8
Anyone know a 13 year old kid going to the game?
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