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Post by jdogge on Apr 13, 2017 22:24:27 GMT -8
Streak over! That's baseball folks. Go beavs. The pressure is off, now. |
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Post by sagebrush on Apr 14, 2017 3:18:20 GMT -8
The 2 run error was a joint effort. Throw was bad, but the the first rule of first base is "catch the ball." Come off and catch it and you give up one run, not let it get by you for two. Hell, errors happen and they don't bother me.
What bothers me is Circle K's with RISP. Particularly with less than two out. With two strikes, if it's close enough to call, it is close enough to swing at it and put it in play. Just like there's no defense for a walk, there's no offense with the bat on your shoulder.
But, I'm old school and can't even spell "saybor mettricks" let alone understand it.
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Post by badwack on Apr 14, 2017 3:49:30 GMT -8
Just a couple of obvious comments. Note the Dawq Pitcher was good but we did hit the guy pretty damn hard. You can tell when a guy has everyone locked up but we were drilling the ball all night. However, when you can't hit the Ball a inch with runners on you make the Guy look like a Hall of Famer. Next, Madrigal is one hell'va player but he is not moving on to play SS. Cadyn has a Rocket for an Arm.... just saying....
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Post by rafer on Apr 14, 2017 6:36:28 GMT -8
The 2 run error was a joint effort. Throw was bad, but the the first rule of first base is "catch the ball." Come off and catch it and you give up one run, not let it get by you for two. Hell, errors happen and they don't bother me. What bothers me is Circle K's with RISP. Particularly with less than two out. With two strikes, if it's close enough to call, it is close enough to swing at it and put it in play. Just like there's no defense for a walk, there's no offense with the bat on your shoulder. But, I'm old school and can't even spell "saybor mettricks" let alone understand it. Very well said, the K's just killed us, and many times at that. Standing and watching marginal but decent strikes will cost you big time and it did. The dying at the plate was inexcusable, ad no doubt it will be discussed. The errors, well as you said, that's baseball, but the throw should have been at least knocked down, it wasn't a short hop. it hit many feet from the 1st baseman, should have been handled. Oh well, tear them a new one today, can't stand the coach or their attitude. |
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Post by ricke71 on Apr 14, 2017 7:49:26 GMT -8
Just a couple of obvious comments. Note the Dawq Pitcher was good but we did hit the guy pretty damn hard. You can tell when a guy has everyone locked up but we were drilling the ball all night. However, when you can't hit the Ball a inch with runners on you make the Guy look like a Hall of Famer. Next, Madrigal is one hell'va player but he is not moving on to play SS. Cadyn has a Rocket for an Arm.... just saying.... we have two excellent middle infielders. They both came in as SS. Both play SS in summer ball. I've wondered all season about Pat's preference for Madrigal at SS. He knows more BB in his eft ear than I do altogether. It's my observation though that of the two, Grenier has slightly better range and a considerably better arm....just sayin.... |
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Post by gzrbvr on Apr 14, 2017 7:56:48 GMT -8
The 2 run error was a joint effort. Throw was bad, but the the first rule of first base is "catch the ball." Come off and catch it and you give up one run, not let it get by you for two. Hell, errors happen and they don't bother me. What bothers me is Circle K's with RISP. Particularly with less than two out. With two strikes, if it's close enough to call, it is close enough to swing at it and put it in play. Just like there's no defense for a walk, there's no offense with the bat on your shoulder. But, I'm old school and can't even spell "saybor mettricks" let alone understand it. All you need to know is "100% of all putts that are short don't go in". |
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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 14, 2017 8:20:48 GMT -8
We just didn't play well. It was a team effort just as in the W's.
-pitchers gave up too many good pitches, especially ahead in the count, but really were the strong point again on a cold wet night;
-hitters sat on too many good pitches and did not drive in runs when we had the chance early. Didn't even need base hits in most cases.
-D was poor... the errors are obvious, but there was another poor throw and mishandling of relays that allowed extra bases where I thought the runners at 2nd should have been outs.
-thought PC also did not do typical PC small ball tactics in a couple key instances. He trusted hitters to hit/make contact and maybe over relied on pitching being as good as it had.
Bottom line you keep tossing away opportunities and play in 1 run games you're going to lose some. No one in baseball wins all those, and we've already had our share in more ways than one.
We had a chance in the 1st to blow up UW's pitching philosophy. Had a chance early to unsettle Bremer. But 12 LOB was too much to overcome on this night.
Obviously not wanting a loss, but I'm actually looking forward to seeing how we handle some adversity in terms of losing one like we've been winning them.
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Post by rollotomasi on Apr 14, 2017 8:23:41 GMT -8
The 2 run error was a joint effort. Throw was bad, but the the first rule of first base is "catch the ball." Come off and catch it and you give up one run, not let it get by you for two. Hell, errors happen and they don't bother me. What bothers me is Circle K's with RISP. Particularly with less than two out. With two strikes, if it's close enough to call, it is close enough to swing at it and put it in play. Just like there's no defense for a walk, there's no offense with the bat on your shoulder. But, I'm old school and can't even spell "saybor mettricks" let alone understand it. Very well said, the K's just killed us, and many times at that. Standing and watching marginal but decent strikes will cost you big time and it did. The dying at the plate was inexcusable, ad no doubt it will be discussed. The errors, well as you said, that's baseball, but the throw should have been at least knocked down, it wasn't a short hop. it hit many feet from the 1st baseman, should have been handled. Oh well, tear them a new one today, can't stand the coach or their attitude. The backwards Ks were unbearable. I also can't stand constantly staring at first pitch strikes. I get that you want to get the pitch count up, but christ, Bremer was throwing first pitch strikes right down main street all night. And we'd let him. Rarely a threat of anyone swinging. We aren't good enough that we can live with giving away a strike to start every at-bat, 2 strikes and you're out. How'd his high pitch count work out for us last night? Dude threw over 130... We could stand a more aggressive posture at the dish tonight. Shorten up and protect on 2 strike counts. Can't be up there expecting to get the benefit of the doubt on a pitch 2 inches off the black. ESPECIALLY WITH GUYS IN SCORING POSITION. If he's going to tube you with his first pitch, drive back at him. |
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Post by badwack on Apr 14, 2017 9:04:54 GMT -8
My guess (only a guess) is Madrigal with his lightening quick hands must be able to get the Ball to first faster than Cadyn No comparison on Arm Strength. Range? Both are +++ We are looking a two future Major Leaque guys.
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Post by justdamwin on Apr 14, 2017 9:23:31 GMT -8
At high level baseball, the difference between a great offensive night and not, is stringing hits together in an inning. OS failed to do that. Credit UW pitching, that guy competed at a high level.
This is why they play three games series'.
Tonight both teams could string together hits. Or we could see another pitchers battle decided by one defensive miscue.
I still think the overall number of quality arms for OS will give OS the series win. The series changes tonight about inning five
Small ball has to come into play, I thought it did last night when UW failed to execute. OS executed but then failed to get the next AB to matter.
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