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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 11, 2017 23:01:38 GMT -8
Not quite apples to apples... the offenses/bats were a slight bit different... Ok champions starters with new bats 2016 Coastal Carolina 1.85 3.64 4.20 2015 Virginia 1.60 3.19 3.93 2014 Vanderbilt 1.98 2.64 4.05 2013 UCLA 2.16 2.25 3.01 2012 Arizona 2.24 3.95 3.97 Did not think there would be that big a difference... at least for the "ace" there is. |
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Post by beaverintheberg on Apr 12, 2017 6:47:24 GMT -8
The important thing is to get to the tournament. Then, who knows, one hot pitcher can do you in.
If the Beavs MAKE it to Omaha the season is a big success. After that... it's so dicey!!
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Post by ag87 on Apr 12, 2017 8:08:30 GMT -8
Not quite apples to apples... the offenses/bats were a slight bit different... Ok champions starters with new bats 2016 Coastal Carolina 1.85 3.64 4.20 2015 Virginia 1.60 3.19 3.93 2014 Vanderbilt 1.98 2.64 4.05 2013 UCLA 2.16 2.25 3.01 2012 Arizona 2.24 3.95 3.97 And dont forget about the now flat seem ball increasing home runs and scoring I'm a bit confused . . . . those are the ERA's of the three pitchers with the most starts? |
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Post by jefframp on Apr 12, 2017 9:05:30 GMT -8
Fehmel is just fine. There are only 10 pitchers in pac 12 outside of OSU that have a better ERA. 5 pac 12 teams dont even have a single player with a better ERA. Lets compare his 3.25 era to the OSU championship teams 2006 Dallas buck 3.45 Mike Stutes 3.11 Eddie Kunz 3.64 Joe Pa 4.06 2007 Mike Stutes 4.06 Joe Pa 3.60 Daniel Turpen 3.43 Jorge Reyes 3.11 Eddie Kunz 2.93 Excuse me but who left Jonah Nickerson out of these ERA figures?!?!?! Sheeeesh! |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 12, 2017 12:46:40 GMT -8
Fehmel is just fine. There are only 10 pitchers in pac 12 outside of OSU that have a better ERA. 5 pac 12 teams dont even have a single player with a better ERA. Lets compare his 3.25 era to the OSU championship teams 2006 Dallas Buck 3.45 Jonah Nickerson 2.50Mike Stutes 3.11 Eddie Kunz 3.64 Joe Pa 4.06 2007 Mike Stutes 4.06 Joe Pa 3.60 Daniel Turpen 3.43 Jorge Reyes 3.11 Eddie Kunz 2.93 Fixed Buck's name and added in Nickerson. |
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Post by OriginalWhizzinator on Apr 12, 2017 12:52:01 GMT -8
I agree with the weaknesses you point out. However, I'd like to mention that all teams have weaknesses, even the ones on top. It's how you protect yours or exploit the other's that makes the difference. From what I've been able to gather is that the Beavers have probably the most well-rounded team this year. Lastly, I'd rather show up to the dance smelling good but that's just my opinion.
Lol, that comment reminds me of the time my friend Joel showed up to an OSU dance wearing his Shawn Kemp Seattle Supersonics jersey, after playing basketball at Dixon for several hours. True story. Needless to say, the girls at the dance were NOT impressed.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Apr 12, 2017 13:06:15 GMT -8
Winning!!
Sure, winning is good, but do we have Tiger Blood? Or was it Tiger Milk that Charlie Sheen was ranting about. It's good to be good but, it's also good to be lucky. It takes more than a little Luck to get to Omaha and win it all. I wonder if the Tar Heels are hoping to see the Beavs again in Omaha or, are they hoping they don't see the Beavs again in Omaha. I'm betting the latter... Most teams thrive on playing great competition, and when you get to Omaha no one completely "lucked" their way in. But, even though the current NC squad has zero connection to the past OSU wins it will be brought up and the coaches do know. Sometimes the thriving on great competition can be outweighed by playing someone who seems to just have your "number". As far as the remainder of the season, fans tend to get in a frenzy over such success as 28-1 and forget the "streak" and wins have zero to do with the next game. A team's record is the past. And baseball is very much a game of the present. Anyone can truly beat anyone... focus, hot team, big arm, bad luck/call(s), injury... all can creep in at any moment. So reveling in the past is awesome. But, using it to say the future is fairly secure is "fool's gold". Wins/winning streaks do bode well for building team/individual confidence, and the way we have won some games fuels the belief that any adversity can be overcome. So psychologically winning is super important and is also the best time to actually teach about shortcomings. Kids are much more receptive to hearing about and correcting faults when in a positive frame of mind. However, on another thread it is mentioned how last year and some successes this year have been born of anger/a mean streak... "born of dark hearts", that baseball "is not a game of nice". Anyone who knows baseball knows anger and extreme emotional ups and downs do not lead to solid baseball. You can't pitch, hit, or field angry or with a "dark heart". Baseball is all about patience and staying emotionally ready. Two players touch the ball each pitch, the other 7 better be focused and in the flow of the game because you never know when the ball is yours. Competitive drive is an internal fire not one driven by external motivators like anger, revenge, or hate. The best players/teams show their emotions in a very controlled way... at least the majority of the time. This team plays with that maturity, they play the game from within themselves. If they continue to do so and not get into the emotional highs and lows, they will be able to overcome the stumbling blocks that they most assuredly WILL face. What the future holds will play out, but to me this team will have continued to have success as long as they are playing with the same highly competitive even keel they have so far. But, what fans of one team tend to overlook, other teams are also growing and going through their own season of success and achievements. All a team can do is take care of itself, you can not control how another player or team plays. As I used to repeat over and over to players and teams... outcome oriented people are usually disappointed often, while process oriented folks see success in many different ways. I agree with you to an extent, but I worry, though, that a team that is 28-1 with a 23-game winning streak might get complacent. To a certain extent, I welcome a series with TSUN (That School Up North). If Casey can channel that anger and frustration from last year and turn it into focus not just in this series but for the rest of the regular season, I think that that could be beneficial. Guys, go out there and practice like your lives depended on it. Train like your lives depended on it. Play the game like your lives depended on it. Do not let your brothers down! You each need each other. Each player trusts that every other player is putting everything that he has into each at bat, each catch, each throw. Each player knows that every other player is a cog in an unstoppable machine that is this team, this year. Let's go out there and give our all. Let's go out there and hand Washington three losses that they will be telling their grandchildren about. |
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Post by beaverama1 on Apr 12, 2017 13:28:31 GMT -8
I hope they prove me wrong, but to me for all the winning they are doing they are actually walking a very fine line. don't want to come off as nit picking or being too critical, but trying judge them against what it takes to get to Omaha and do some damage. You are absolutely nitpicking and being too critical. We've played seven 1-run games this year and won all 7. That is obviously unsustainable but you'd expect a team to be about 50-50 over time (maybe better) in those types of games that could go either way. So even if we had lost half of those games we'd still be 25-4 or 26-5 and ranked in the top 10 nationally. We are not as good as our record because nobody is. You can walk a thin line and get lucky but still be really good -- it's not mutually exclusive. As others have pointed out Fehmel would be a Saturday starter or better on virtually every team in the conference. If a guy with a 13-2 career record and a sub-3.5 ERA is our weak link then we are in very, very good shape. |
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Post by codyd70 on Apr 12, 2017 16:44:58 GMT -8
Fehmel is just fine. There are only 10 pitchers in pac 12 outside of OSU that have a better ERA. 5 pac 12 teams dont even have a single player with a better ERA. Lets compare his 3.25 era to the OSU championship teams 2006 Dallas buck 3.45 Mike Stutes 3.11 Eddie Kunz 3.64 Joe Pa 4.06 2007 Mike Stutes 4.06 Joe Pa 3.60 Daniel Turpen 3.43 Jorge Reyes 3.11 Eddie Kunz 2.93 Excuse me but who left Jonah Nickerson out of these ERA figures?!?!?! Sheeeesh! Was just going with the ones that were near or above Fehmel's ERA |
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Post by codyd70 on Apr 12, 2017 16:49:44 GMT -8
Ok champions starters with new bats 2016 Coastal Carolina 1.85 3.64 4.20 2015 Virginia 1.60 3.19 3.93 2014 Vanderbilt 1.98 2.64 4.05 2013 UCLA 2.16 2.25 3.01 2012 Arizona 2.24 3.95 3.97 And dont forget about the now flat seem ball increasing home runs and scoring I'm a bit confused . . . . those are the ERA's of the three pitchers with the most starts? Depends on the stats page. Some had pages like Coastal in the following link that seperated them out. With the ones that didnt i looked at both starts and innings pitched. But its just to show that Fehmel's ERA is far from being bad for a championship caliber team. www.goccusports.com/sports/m-basebl/stats/2015-2016/teamcume.html |
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