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Post by beavaristotle on Apr 11, 2017 13:46:21 GMT -8
the winning streaking has hidden some flaws that will be exposed when they get on to playing better competition (i.e. regionals ,supers and Omaha.) right now they only have two reliable starters, not enough for regional style play. moving Jake M into the 3rd spot would help, but would gut their middle relief. they have no right handed arms out of the bullpen late if we need to play the match up game. also limited on RH batters off our bench for match ups. the streak is great but 80% of the teams they have beaten are not the type of teams we will see at a regional or beyond. I hope they prove me wrong, but to me for all the winning they are doing they are actually walking a very fine line. don't want to come off as nit picking or being too critical, but trying judge them against what it takes to get to Omaha and do some damage.
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Post by rainmanrich on Apr 11, 2017 14:25:54 GMT -8
I agree with the weaknesses you point out. However, I'd like to mention that all teams have weaknesses, even the ones on top. It's how you protect yours or exploit the other's that makes the difference. From what I've been able to gather is that the Beavers have probably the most well-rounded team this year.
Lastly, I'd rather show up to the dance smelling good but that's just my opinion.
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Post by vhalum92 on Apr 11, 2017 14:57:41 GMT -8
I think all of that is very fair and accurate.
What do we have going for us?
1. It isn't time to play those teams yet and more dudes can step up.
2. We will see Drew Rasmussen on the mound before seasons end. My best guess is as a relieve to keep his pitch count down and the best news is that he will be our BEST RH Reliever.... or a starter if things go over the top well.
3. Hickey and Grant have time to come around and I think Verburg is another special kid who is right handed and will just get better as the season rolls on.
4. I agree that we need more RH bats in the outfield and off the bench. I don't have a quick fix on that one... Atwood gives them an option but that is about it. I do think Zack Taylor is coming around and we will see him DH against the LH pitchers.
Thanks for pumping the breaks a little bit... but lets enjoy the win streak as long as it lasts and hope we keep improving as we head toward end of season play.
Go Beavs!
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Post by justdamwin on Apr 11, 2017 15:11:05 GMT -8
Arizona(RPI #2) can get to Omaha
Nebraska or IU could end up in Omaha
Stanford (27), certainly. Utah (54) is a very, very good team that will more games than lose down the stretch. Cal, ASU and WSU are still on their schedule.
Fehmel has an ERA of 3.25 ERA, 44 innings, 13 BB and opponents are batting .208 against. If that's stinky for a #3 starter (he's our Sat. guy but he's #3) them I'm freaking smelling those roses.
Tweedt and Gambrel both go to middle relief in a tourney setting. Hickey is coming back to look like his Freshman All American season.
Atwood and Taylor are both R bats off the bench. Geez, Church is a potential. That guy is either on the mound or playing left field for the bottom half of the Pac12. Preston Jones.
When Rutschman locks on and he will, this team becomes an offensive force. Remember he started the season in the middle of the lineup, potential is there
I'm sorry, for a college baseball team there's little left to be desired in this team. Pitching, defense, power throughout, speed, execution.
Does it happen? Who knows, you have to play the games.
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Post by spudbeaver on Apr 11, 2017 15:18:00 GMT -8
I use Winning! It's better than Old Spice imo.
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Post by nabeav on Apr 11, 2017 15:47:31 GMT -8
If they were pounding these teams 14-0 every night, I'd actually be more concerned. But playing in tight games, having to come from behind, having your relievers, bench players, etc. involved in pressure situations on a regular basis, all that stuff is going to be so beneficial when the stakes get ratcheted up in late May and June.
It's like the scene from the movie "Miracle" where the Russian coach doesn't pull his goalie because he's never had to do it before. OSU's not going to be in that situation, because we've been down multiple runs in the 9th inning on the road. We've played a 16 inning game. We've had freshmen and guys who get one at bat a weekend step up in situations that require a positive result, and they've delivered.
We're going to be fine. We're not a perfect baseball team, but we're damn good and battle tested. I'll roll with that any day.
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Post by jimbeav on Apr 11, 2017 16:41:52 GMT -8
I think the really nice thing is that the coaches and players know they aren't perfect. They know they have areas to improve, and some messy areas to clean up, and I think they are truly driven to continue getting better. It all starts at the top, and you know Casey isn't letting them think they're better than they are.
I don't expect this magical run to continue through to the very end (minus a loss here and there), but I'm certainly not ruling it out either...
GO BEAVS!
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Post by Werebeaver on Apr 11, 2017 17:02:28 GMT -8
If they were pounding these teams 14-0 every night, I'd actually be more concerned. But playing in tight games, having to come from behind, having your relievers, bench players, etc. involved in pressure situations on a regular basis, all that stuff is going to be so beneficial when the stakes get ratcheted up in late May and June. It's like the scene from the movie "Miracle" where the Russian coach doesn't pull his goalie because he's never had to do it before. OSU's not going to be in that situation, because we've been down multiple runs in the 9th inning on the road. We've played a 16 inning game. We've had freshmen and guys who get one at bat a weekend step up in situations that require a positive result, and they've delivered. We're going to be fine. We're not a perfect baseball team, but we're damn good and battle tested. I'll roll with that any day. USSR coach Tihkonov did pull their star goalie Tretiak after the first period in the 1980 Olympic semi vs USA. |
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Post by usmc1958 on Apr 11, 2017 17:10:30 GMT -8
I use Winning! It's better than Old Spice imo.
Sure, winning is good, but do we have Tiger Blood? Or was it Tiger Milk that Charlie Sheen was ranting about. It's good to be good but, it's also good to be lucky. It takes more than a little Luck to get to Omaha and win it all. I wonder if the Tar Heels are hoping to see the Beavs again in Omaha or, are they hoping they don't see the Beavs again in Omaha. |
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Post by eugenedave on Apr 11, 2017 19:05:14 GMT -8
I use Winning! It's better than Old Spice imo.
Sure, winning is good, but do we have Tiger Blood? Or was it Tiger Milk that Charlie Sheen was ranting about. It's good to be good but, it's also good to be lucky. It takes more than a little Luck to get to Omaha and win it all. I wonder if the Tar Heels are hoping to see the Beavs again in Omaha or, are they hoping they don't see the Beavs again in Omaha. The powder blue boys from North Carolina have got to be thinking that they need to be on the bracket opposite the Beavs when they get to Omaha, because nothing is going to stop our guys from getting there. Not injuries, not the dux, not no how, not no way. Beavs will play in late June, count on it. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 11, 2017 19:28:39 GMT -8
I use Winning! It's better than Old Spice imo.
Sure, winning is good, but do we have Tiger Blood? Or was it Tiger Milk that Charlie Sheen was ranting about. It's good to be good but, it's also good to be lucky. It takes more than a little Luck to get to Omaha and win it all. I wonder if the Tar Heels are hoping to see the Beavs again in Omaha or, are they hoping they don't see the Beavs again in Omaha. I'm betting the latter... Most teams thrive on playing great competition, and when you get to Omaha no one completely "lucked" their way in. But, even though the current NC squad has zero connection to the past OSU wins it will be brought up and the coaches do know. Sometimes the thriving on great competition can be outweighed by playing someone who seems to just have your "number". As far as the remainder of the season, fans tend to get in a frenzy over such success as 28-1 and forget the "streak" and wins have zero to do with the next game. A team's record is the past. And baseball is very much a game of the present. Anyone can truly beat anyone... focus, hot team, big arm, bad luck/call(s), injury... all can creep in at any moment. So reveling in the past is awesome. But, using it to say the future is fairly secure is "fool's gold". Wins/winning streaks do bode well for building team/individual confidence, and the way we have won some games fuels the belief that any adversity can be overcome. So psychologically winning is super important and is also the best time to actually teach about shortcomings. Kids are much more receptive to hearing about and correcting faults when in a positive frame of mind. However, on another thread it is mentioned how last year and some successes this year have been born of anger/a mean streak... "born of dark hearts", that baseball "is not a game of nice". Anyone who knows baseball knows anger and extreme emotional ups and downs do not lead to solid baseball. You can't pitch, hit, or field angry or with a "dark heart". Baseball is all about patience and staying emotionally ready. Two players touch the ball each pitch, the other 7 better be focused and in the flow of the game because you never know when the ball is yours. Competitive drive is an internal fire not one driven by external motivators like anger, revenge, or hate. The best players/teams show their emotions in a very controlled way... at least the majority of the time. This team plays with that maturity, they play the game from within themselves. If they continue to do so and not get into the emotional highs and lows, they will be able to overcome the stumbling blocks that they most assuredly WILL face. What the future holds will play out, but to me this team will have continued to have success as long as they are playing with the same highly competitive even keel they have so far. But, what fans of one team tend to overlook, other teams are also growing and going through their own season of success and achievements. All a team can do is take care of itself, you can not control how another player or team plays. As I used to repeat over and over to players and teams... outcome oriented people are usually disappointed often, while process oriented folks see success in many different ways. |
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Post by codyd70 on Apr 11, 2017 19:50:34 GMT -8
Fehmel is just fine. There are only 10 pitchers in pac 12 outside of OSU that have a better ERA. 5 pac 12 teams dont even have a single player with a better ERA. Lets compare his 3.25 era to the OSU championship teams
2006
Dallas buck 3.45
Mike Stutes 3.11
Eddie Kunz 3.64
Joe Pa 4.06
2007
Mike Stutes 4.06
Joe Pa 3.60
Daniel Turpen 3.43
Jorge Reyes 3.11
Eddie Kunz 2.93
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Post by nabeav on Apr 11, 2017 21:02:01 GMT -8
USSR coach Tihkonov did pull their star goalie Tretiak after the first period in the 1980 Olympic semi vs USA. Sure, but I was referring to the end of game scenario where you pull the goalie to get an extra skater on the ice to create a 6-5 advantage to try and score a game tying goal. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 11, 2017 21:38:17 GMT -8
Fehmel is just fine. There are only 10 pitchers in pac 12 outside of OSU that have a better ERA. 5 pac 12 teams dont even have a single player with a better ERA. Lets compare his 3.25 era to the OSU championship teams 2006 Dallas buck 3.45 Mike Stutes 3.11 Eddie Kunz 3.64 Joe Pa 4.06 2007 Mike Stutes 4.06 Joe Pa 3.60 Daniel Turpen 3.43 Jorge Reyes 3.11 Eddie Kunz 2.93 Not quite apples to apples... the offenses/bats were a slight bit different... |
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Post by codyd70 on Apr 11, 2017 22:54:20 GMT -8
Fehmel is just fine. There are only 10 pitchers in pac 12 outside of OSU that have a better ERA. 5 pac 12 teams dont even have a single player with a better ERA. Lets compare his 3.25 era to the OSU championship teams 2006 Dallas buck 3.45 Mike Stutes 3.11 Eddie Kunz 3.64 Joe Pa 4.06 2007 Mike Stutes 4.06 Joe Pa 3.60 Daniel Turpen 3.43 Jorge Reyes 3.11 Eddie Kunz 2.93 Not quite apples to apples... the offenses/bats were a slight bit different... Ok champions starters with new bats 2016 Coastal Carolina 1.85 3.64 4.20 2015 Virginia 1.60 3.19 3.93 2014 Vanderbilt 1.98 2.64 4.05 2013 UCLA 2.16 2.25 3.01 2012 Arizona 2.24 3.95 3.97 And dont forget about the now flat seem ball increasing home runs and scoring |
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