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Post by TheGlove on Apr 10, 2017 11:26:55 GMT -8
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Post by badwack on Apr 11, 2017 6:06:26 GMT -8
Just my observation but I think a strong argument could be made for Mulholland to be in the Weekend Rotation. With his Breaking Ball this kids has a chance to be a real Stud.
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Post by mbabeav on Apr 11, 2017 8:05:36 GMT -8
We have about the best weekend rotation in the nation right now; Jake is right where we need him, preparatory to getting him to step into a starter's roll next season. How many relievers do you see get Pac-12 pitcher of the week. Not very many.
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Post by vhalum92 on Apr 11, 2017 8:38:43 GMT -8
I think for now.... he is the closer. Max maybe dinged up and frankly Jake is throwing better than Max right now anyway, IMHO.
But if a need presents itself this year, he showed he can go through the line up a few times on Saturday and be effective. This year, next year, sometime soon he will be a starter.
How about the good news on Drew? Where does he fit in as he comes back? It really could be (knock on wood) an embarrassment of riches coming down the stretch.... Quality arms in every spot with amazing experience and talent.
Really excited for this year and the future.
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Post by ricke71 on Apr 11, 2017 11:09:59 GMT -8
We have about the best weekend rotation in the nation right now; Jake is right where we need him, preparatory to getting him to step into a starter's roll next season. How many relievers do you see get Pac-12 pitcher of the week. Not very many. Weekend rotation is very good, but I'm unconvinced that it can't be improved - including moving Mulholland into it. Of Fehmel's 7 starts this season, 3 have been below "best weekend rotation in the nation" caliber. Feb. 24 v. Ohio State: 5 ip, 3 ER, and an (L). April 1 v. Stanford: 3 ip, 5 ER. April 8 v. Utah: 6-1/3 ip, only 2 ER, but 5 BB...and 97 pitches in only 6-1/3. To me, this raises at least a (small) red flag. At times Tweedt has been used in the weekend rotation, but that has proved inconsistent. Mulholland stepping into a starting role next year would be ideal (and I recall another post, on another thread, noting that his father indicated he REALLY wanted to be a starter - which is why his 'quasi-start' in the 16 inning game was so cool). And indeed he is extremely valuable, and consistent, as a late inning reliever. But, if at some point (such as in Omaha) it becomes critical that the Beavs get a high quality start, from other than Heimlich or Thompson, I'd hope that Mulholland would be considered. If Hickey is nearing full recovery, and Drew Rasmussen comes back, that creates some flexibility for late inning relief [Drew "touched" 95 mph last week according to Eggers article] - assuming Drew didn't immediately jump into a starting role (which is pretty unlikely). With the season not quite halfway complete (if you count at least a moderately successful post-season), I just don't' see our Friday - Saturday - Sunday rotation fully locked in, just yet.
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Post by beaverama1 on Apr 11, 2017 12:44:56 GMT -8
If Mulholland is going to take anyone's starting spot it would be Tweedt who has been very mediocre against our midweek competition. That would free Jake up to start midweek and handle some bullpen duty during the weekend (although he'd probably be limited). I think Fehmel would have be a lot worse to warrant a bump from the starting lineup -- 6.1 and 2 ER is a pretty strong start for just about anyone in the country. With Max dealing with some back pain I see no reason to move Jake out of a very important role as closer.
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Post by ricke71 on Apr 11, 2017 14:20:28 GMT -8
Indeed 6.1 ip with 2 ER is fine. 7 days earlier it was 3.0 innings / 5 ER. moving forward, who knows which way it will go. We'll know in a week or two. Hopefully Fehmel will repeat his quality starts going forward - and he certainly has had several. If so, Beavs are set with a super rotation. Still remains to be seen if Hickey or Rasmussen will figure in. They both have outstanding stuff, when healthy. It'd be great if we get the chance to find out over the next 2 months. Go Beavs !
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Post by jdogge on Apr 11, 2017 15:10:37 GMT -8
If Mulholland is going to take anyone's starting spot it would be Tweedt who has been very mediocre against our midweek competition. That would free Jake up to start midweek and handle some bullpen duty during the weekend (although he'd probably be limited). I think Fehmel would have be a lot worse to warrant a bump from the starting lineup -- 6.1 and 2 ER is a pretty strong start for just about anyone in the country. With Max dealing with some back pain I see no reason to move Jake out of a very important role as closer. At this rate we can send a different guy in each inning and throw one combined shut out after another. Let's see: Heimlich, Fehmel, Thompson, Tweedt, Mulholland, Englebrekt, Eishart, Verberg ... that's eight. Add Hickey and Rasmussen. Who isn't returning next year? Geez Louise we'll be good next year too!
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Post by vhalum92 on Apr 11, 2017 15:44:35 GMT -8
To answer your Question.... Max is a senior, he wont' be back. Juniors who will have an option to take the $.... Luke, Jake, Mitch and Drew. I think Luke and Jake may go. Mitch and Drew have more to show But everyone other than Max has leverage so you never know. The offense is a similar story. KJ is probably gone, not sure about Christian.... Gretler, Anderson and Cary probably stay ?
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Post by baseba1111 on Apr 11, 2017 16:41:44 GMT -8
If Mulholland is going to take anyone's starting spot it would be Tweedt who has been very mediocre against our midweek competition. That would free Jake up to start midweek and handle some bullpen duty during the weekend (although he'd probably be limited). I think Fehmel would have be a lot worse to warrant a bump from the starting lineup -- 6.1 and 2 ER is a pretty strong start for just about anyone in the country. With Max dealing with some back pain I see no reason to move Jake out of a very important role as closer. You do not move your "closer"/ best reliever who proved he can be extended to your mid-week starter... EVER. At worst you piece meal the mid-week games with 4-5 guys who are chomping at the bit to get some innings... develop them. Ultimately the mid-week games mean very little. Jake will only start if Fehmel falters badly over 2 starts... or injury. Drew would then best be served in short relief stints... preferably to start an inning not with guys on.
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Post by justdamwin on Apr 12, 2017 7:37:25 GMT -8
If Mulholland is going to take anyone's starting spot it would be Tweedt who has been very mediocre against our midweek competition. That would free Jake up to start midweek and handle some bullpen duty during the weekend (although he'd probably be limited). I think Fehmel would have be a lot worse to warrant a bump from the starting lineup -- 6.1 and 2 ER is a pretty strong start for just about anyone in the country. With Max dealing with some back pain I see no reason to move Jake out of a very important role as closer. You do not move your "closer"/ best reliever who proved he can be extended to your mid-week starter... EVER. At worst you piece meal the mid-week games with 4-5 guys who are chomping at the bit to get some innings... develop them. Ultimately the mid-week games mean very little. Jake will only start if Fehmel falters badly over 2 starts... or injury. Drew would then best be served in short relief stints... preferably to start an inning not with guys on. Yep, this team is just bringing back into the rotation Hickey and Tweedt, both players who have received some level of conference or national honors in the past. Both quality pitchers. I think closing is as much mentality as physical gifts, especially at any amateur level (you may disagree), when you find a guy (Mullholland) with both physical and mental gifts, don't move it around mid-season unless factors outside your control (Injuries) force it. Mulholland can influence the outcome of two games a weekend as a "true' closer. Starters and long relievers effect one game a weekend. Verbert, Gambrel, Paul, Church let them throw innings mid-week. Come Regionals they may need to throw an inning.
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Post by beaverama1 on Apr 12, 2017 13:40:59 GMT -8
You do not move your "closer"/ best reliever who proved he can be extended to your mid-week starter... EVER. At worst you piece meal the mid-week games with 4-5 guys who are chomping at the bit to get some innings... develop them. Ultimately the mid-week games mean very little. Jake will only start if Fehmel falters badly over 2 starts... or injury. Drew would then best be served in short relief stints... preferably to start an inning not with guys on. Wasn't advocating that we move him to midweek -- just saying that IF Jake was going to take anyone's spot it would be Tweedt's. I think our starting rotation that is currently 15-1 and leading the nation in ERA is fine as is.
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Post by eugenedave on Apr 12, 2017 20:18:00 GMT -8
Mulholland has the 2nd lowest ERA in the nation (0.59), closely followed by Heimlich, who has the 5th lowest (0.77). Thompson has the 18th lowest (1.18). D1's stats list 894 pitchers. We have three pitchers in the top 2%. Amazing.
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