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Post by eugenedave on Mar 29, 2017 22:19:18 GMT -8
And pigs are flying too.
Here's last weekend's attendance at PK versus Goss:
Friday 995 vs. 2790
Saturday 1075 vs. 3190
Sunday 1010 vs. 2901
We had more at Saturday's game than they had the entire weekend. Beavs are outdrawing hole almost 3:1.
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Post by sagebrush on Mar 30, 2017 7:17:23 GMT -8
Well, there you go again, letting facts and figures get in the way of truth as they know it. Killwrestling and his boys did a marvelous job of selling. To think, folks malign lawyers and used car salesmen and let those guys go.
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Post by spudbeaver on Mar 30, 2017 8:29:06 GMT -8
I think one of those games was the big celebration extravaganza for Whorton being presented the game ball for his 300th win there. It was massive...
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Post by blueheron on Mar 30, 2017 10:16:41 GMT -8
And pigs are flying too. Here's last weekend's attendance at PK versus Goss: Friday 995 vs. 2790 Saturday 1075 vs. 3190 Sunday 1010 vs. 2901 We had more at Saturday's game than they had the entire weekend. Beavs are outdrawing hole almost 3:1. It wasn't long ago that a fantastic crowd at Goss was 1,000. |
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Post by nabeav on Mar 30, 2017 10:25:58 GMT -8
PK Park is a surprisingly nice place to watch a game, considering it's in a parking lot.
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 30, 2017 11:07:38 GMT -8
PK Park is a surprisingly nice place to watch a game, considering it's in a parking lot. built over a landfill |
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Post by Tigardbeav on Mar 30, 2017 12:07:48 GMT -8
And pigs are flying too. Here's last weekend's attendance at PK versus Goss: Friday 995 vs. 2790 Saturday 1075 vs. 3190 Sunday 1010 vs. 2901 We had more at Saturday's game than they had the entire weekend. Beavs are outdrawing hole almost 3:1. It wasn't long ago that a fantastic crowd at Goss was 1,000. Yeah, but...Pat Casey wasn't going around shooting his mouth off about owning the state, or Building a brand new ball park in a sub section of the football stadium or putting the mileage to Omaha on the outfield wall when you've never been to Omaha. Or even digging up the field to look for some hidden memento from your non rival. Or saying that baseball would pay for itself because they put in a beer garden. Or cooking the books to kill wrestling and bring back a sport because your non rival won a couple NCs. And then skipping town just ahead of the NCAA Pat Casey & the Beaver players built that attendance *good to see you on here BH! |
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Post by nforkbeav on Mar 30, 2017 12:50:44 GMT -8
Just my opinion, but the two people you never, ever, ever give the time of day to are cry babies seeking attention and marketing sluts who employ the marketing strategy of saying/doing the loudest, and often most controversial, or exploitative thing they can because it will draw attention every single time. They thrive on the free negative publicity.
hole just happens to fall into both categories. Crybabies and marketing sluts. Every mention of them or their name brings a smile to their face.
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 30, 2017 16:18:14 GMT -8
And pigs are flying too. Here's last weekend's attendance at PK versus Goss: Friday 995 vs. 2790 Saturday 1075 vs. 3190 Sunday 1010 vs. 2901 We had more at Saturday's game than they had the entire weekend. Beavs are outdrawing hole almost 3:1. It wasn't long ago that a fantastic crowd at Goss was 1,000. I'd consider 12+ years a long time ago. |
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Post by eugenedave on Mar 31, 2017 0:20:37 GMT -8
And pigs are flying too. Here's last weekend's attendance at PK versus Goss: Friday 995 vs. 2790 Saturday 1075 vs. 3190 Sunday 1010 vs. 2901 We had more at Saturday's game than they had the entire weekend. Beavs are outdrawing hole almost 3:1. It wasn't long ago that a fantastic crowd at Goss was 1,000. True, but take a look at their declining numbers over the past 4-5 years. They used to draw 1500-2000 routinely. A really telling stat was when they lost game #1 in their SR a few years ago. With a trip to Omaha on the line, their fans kept away in droves. Attendance was barely 1500 each of the two remaining games. Goss would have been sold out. Hole fans hate to lose, and they will withdraw their support very quickly if they sense a loser. And as others have said, they crowed about how they were going to become the elite team in Oregon and pack their stadium with fans. So happy that neither of these things have come to pass. Horton ran his mouth when he first got here, and I lost any respect I had for him at that point in time. PC feels the same way. He should have stayed at Fullerton, but those Nike dollars called to him. I hope it was worth it, George. |
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 31, 2017 8:19:43 GMT -8
PK Park is a surprisingly nice place to watch a game, considering it's in a parking lot. It is a nice park, but it was also designed to serve the Single A Emeralds pro team, and they draw a lot better. |
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Post by blueheron on Mar 31, 2017 10:46:21 GMT -8
It wasn't long ago that a fantastic crowd at Goss was 1,000. Yeah, but...Pat Casey wasn't going around shooting his mouth off about owning the state, or Building a brand new ball park in a sub section of the football stadium or putting the mileage to Omaha on the outfield wall when you've never been to Omaha. Or even digging up the field to look for some hidden memento from your non rival. Or saying that baseball would pay for itself because they put in a beer garden. Or cooking the books to kill wrestling and bring back a sport because your non rival won a couple NCs. And then skipping town just ahead of the NCAA Pat Casey & the Beaver players built that attendance *good to see you on here BH! Thanks Tigard, you're always the gentleman. And I agree with what you say! |
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Post by orangesocks on Mar 31, 2017 11:51:05 GMT -8
I'm gonna play total devil's advocate here and probably take a lot of s%#t for it but here goes. I have a hard time blaming duck fans for not turning out to baseball games the way OSU fans do for the Beavers. Yes, they are bandwagon fans, but so are most fans of pretty much all teams. Their baseball teams have been pretty okay, and as much as I hate to say it this year's has been under the radar and appears to be a threat. But they have generally underachieved, at least based on Horton's boasts and high preseason expectations some seasons. They've proven what we've said all along, that Phil's money alone can't buy a national championship baseball team. Even with a solid team, fans get impatient and disinterested. Thing is, there are also other sports to draw in duck fans. The same time of year as baseball they also have a top 5 softball team the last few years, plus arguably the country's top track and field program. Where OSU is still growing a facility, their track & field support is phenomenal. I know they have a storied program historically but in the modern era their rise in track has been relatively recent. I don't talk to many Beaver fans that care about track & field or cross country which I find kind of ironic considering OSU's strong history in those sports. I guess all I mean is that, in a sense, while we are known for baseball, they have their track. I've had a had time finding attendance numbers but it looks like they get something like 3000-6000 spectators for regular meets.
But who cares, right? The priority as a Beaver fan on a baseball forum is to trash talk about our baseball team vs. theirs, which we rightfully can and should do. So why am I saying all this? Because it shows how amazing the baseball product is at OSU. The team is consistently good every year. Coach Casey and his program's reputation is as good as anyone else in the country right now. Facilities keep getting better and better. And accordingly, attendance has been good to great in a conference that has embarrassingly low averages considering its strength and history, at least compared to SEC and other warmer weather schools. All this in a region that was never supposed to be able to support a top baseball program due to local talent, recruiting, and practice/game opportunity. And there may not be another NC yet, but it's been sustained over 10 years and appears to be as strong as ever.
That other squad began out of envy and road our coattails. They only get to compete in a division with the California and Arizona programs because of OSU's accomplishments. They never earned the cockiness displayed by their head coach. I guess I have a lot more I'd rather pick on than attendance.
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Post by kersting13 on Mar 31, 2017 12:53:20 GMT -8
I'm gonna play total devil's advocate here and probably take a lot of s%#t for it but here goes. I have a hard time blaming duck fans for not turning out to baseball games the way OSU fans do for the Beavers. Yes, they are bandwagon fans, but so are most fans of pretty much all teams. Their baseball teams have been pretty okay, and as much as I hate to say it this year's has been under the radar and appears to be a threat. But they have generally underachieved, at least based on Horton's boasts and high preseason expectations some seasons. They've proven what we've said all along, that Phil's money alone can't buy a national championship baseball team. Even with a solid team, fans get impatient and disinterested. Thing is, there are also other sports to draw in duck fans. The same time of year as baseball they also have a top 5 softball team the last few years, plus arguably the country's top track and field program. Where OSU is still growing a facility, their track & field support is phenomenal. I know they have a storied program historically but in the modern era their rise in track has been relatively recent. I don't talk to many Beaver fans that care about track & field or cross country which I find kind of ironic considering OSU's strong history in those sports. I guess all I mean is that, in a sense, while we are known for baseball, they have their track. I've had a had time finding attendance numbers but it looks like they get something like 3000-6000 spectators for regular meets. But who cares, right? The priority as a Beaver fan on a baseball forum is to trash talk about our baseball team vs. theirs, which we rightfully can and should do. So why am I saying all this? Because it shows how amazing the baseball product is at OSU. The team is consistently good every year. Coach Casey and his program's reputation is as good as anyone else in the country right now. Facilities keep getting better and better. And accordingly, attendance has been good to great in a conference that has embarrassingly low averages considering its strength and history, at least compared to SEC and other warmer weather schools. All this in a region that was never supposed to be able to support a top baseball program due to local talent, recruiting, and practice/game opportunity. And there may not be another NC yet, but it's been sustained over 10 years and appears to be as strong as ever. That other squad began out of envy and road our coattails. They only get to compete in a division with the California and Arizona programs because of OSU's accomplishments. They never earned the cockiness displayed by their head coach. I guess I have a lot more I'd rather pick on than attendance. Your last paragraph identifies the difference between what your first two say, and what this thread is about: OSU didn't start a track program, and ramble on about how it was going to pay for itself, cut another program to do it, hire a high-profile coach who also crowed about how great he was, etc Certainly, the boasts of PK, whoreton, and butterstick should be ridiculed when they're proven what we all believed when they made their bold predictions. |
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Post by orangesocks on Mar 31, 2017 13:08:39 GMT -8
Your last paragraph identifies the difference between what your first two say, and what this thread is about: OSU didn't start a track program, and ramble on about how it was going to pay for itself, cut another program to do it, hire a high-profile coach who also crowed about how great he was, etc Certainly, the boasts of PK, whoreton, and butterstick should be ridiculed when they're proven what we all believed when they made their bold predictions. I agree with you. OSU did start up a track program but without all that other stuff, and it never felt like it was in response to anything uo did. OSU hired a coach who was determined to help build a program from nothing and very humble about it. Certainly to boast that baseball would pay for itself was unrealistic and idiotic. But that little team has actually averaged better home attendance than the Beavers over the season before, which surprised me. This year is much more in the Beavers' favor as it should be. Of course, they could have higher attendance and baseball would still not be paying for itself. |
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