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Post by Quint on Mar 19, 2017 8:51:01 GMT -8
We really don't have a true point guard. We need one. Since we don't have one, let's create one. What if..... for the next 3 years, Tres Tinkle was our point guard. Wouldn't it be cool to have a 6'8" Magic Johnson type point guard? He's the coaches kid, he's smart, a decent passer, a decent shooter, has decent handles. Yes, he would have to work hard on all these things and get much better at all of them. But what if he did? That would create some wicked match up problems for our opponents. I know we need him down low, but Big G, Kone, and whatever new recruit(s) would have to step up along with Eubanks. Hey, GPII lead us in rebounding from the guard spot just a year ago. Just a thought. Why not?
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 19, 2017 9:23:21 GMT -8
If we had a forward who could play at or near his level it'd be worth a try. I expect to see him outside quite a bit, but when he goes underneath it opens up things for the other bigs...and..it gets the other team's big guys into foul trouble, which is huge.
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Post by damnstraight on Mar 19, 2017 10:51:21 GMT -8
Here's an idea. Why not just recruit a pac-12 quality high school point guard and convince Malcom D. to rejoin the team next year. We also need two big wings to take pressure off of Eubanks and Big G. To our two California based assistants, how's recruiting going this spring guys ?? What have ya done for us lately recruiting wise? I sincerely hope we have some great news headed our way soon on the recruiting front. Wayne Tinkle's OSU coaching career may depend on it.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 19, 2017 12:29:09 GMT -8
We really don't have a true point guard. We need one. Since we don't have one, let's create one. What if..... for the next 3 years, Tres Tinkle was our point guard. Wouldn't it be cool to have a 6'8" Magic Johnson type point guard? He's the coaches kid, he's smart, a decent passer, a decent shooter, has decent handles. Yes, he would have to work hard on all these things and get much better at all of them. But what if he did? That would create some wicked match up problems for our opponents. I know we need him down low, but Big G, Kone, and whatever new recruit(s) would have to step up along with Eubanks. Hey, GPII lead us in rebounding from the guard spot just a year ago. Just a thought. Why not? You don't really need him to be a true PG. Think Roland. Unfortunately, Tres is no where near the ball handler facilitator Big Roland was. Tres is very much one handed... better than Collier in that regard, but not much. But, as stated we need to recruit and obviously develop better. There is no "time" for this team to wait on Tres to develop into a "different" player he may never become. The NCAA tourney has become maddening to watch. So, many teams with complete rosters (the ones without but talented drop off quickly... SMU!), discipline, court spacing, and ball movement. All things possible with the available talent that is just not happening. Watching Virgina was such a painful reminder of our anemic performances... alas with much less talent. My fear is that Ethan is very very good... covers up some of our flaws ala GPII and we win just enough, but do not get much better overall. WT needs to absolutely land some recruits before next Fall. |
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Post by bill82 on Mar 19, 2017 17:05:54 GMT -8
A.C. Green was put in that role in his junior or senior year. But I knew A.C. Green. A.C. Green was a friend of mine (not really). Tres Tinkle is no A.C. Green.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 19, 2017 18:20:24 GMT -8
Tres Tinkle's first year stats were quite competitive with AC's second year stats. I'm withholding judgment.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 19, 2017 18:31:53 GMT -8
Tres Tinkle's first year stats were quite competitive with AC's second year stats. I'm withholding judgment. Dude... really? COME ON... stats on the teams AC was on vs Tres?? And... no matter... AC vs Tres... there's no "judgement" needed. Come on man 😊 |
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Post by socobeaver on Mar 19, 2017 20:15:37 GMT -8
It seems to be conventional wisdom that McLaughlin isn't a "true point guard" (whatever that means), but I am not quite sure I buy it. Over the last 10 games of the season, he averaged 4.2 assists and 1.9 turnovers. Maybe not John Stockton numbers, but doing that over the course of the season would make him a middle-of-the-road Pac-12 point. Does he look to score? Sure, but so did both Paytons (and so does Lillard, Curry, and every other good NBA point guard). Does he score efficiently? Not yet. But at the end of the day I think the issue isn't that he's not a point guard, its that he was a freshman who should have been playing 10-15 minutes a game as a reserve while learning to play at this level, but was in a situation where he barely saw the bench and was expected to be a major scorer because the roster was so bleak behind him.
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 19, 2017 20:18:57 GMT -8
It seems to be conventional wisdom that McLaughlin isn't a "true point guard" (whatever that means), but I am not quite sure I buy it. Over the last 10 games of the season, he averaged 4.2 assists and 1.9 turnovers. Maybe not John Stockton numbers, but doing that over the course of the season would make him a middle-of-the-road Pac-12 point. Does he look to score? Sure, but so did both Paytons (and so does Lillard, Curry, and every other good NBA point guard). Does he score efficiently? Not yet. But at the end of the day I think the issue isn't that he's not a point guard, its that he was a freshman who should have been playing 10-15 minutes a game as a reserve while learning to play at this level, but was in a situation where he barely saw the bench and was expected to be a major scorer because the roster was so bleak behind him. And... to be a PG on a bad team is all that more difficult. True Frosh PG on a team with no leadership, lacking sound fundamentals, and no depth is crazy difficult. He'll be fine. He is definitely not the problem, he's part of the solution! |
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Post by beaverinohio on Mar 20, 2017 6:56:54 GMT -8
It seems to be conventional wisdom that McLaughlin isn't a "true point guard" (whatever that means), but I am not quite sure I buy it. Over the last 10 games of the season, he averaged 4.2 assists and 1.9 turnovers. Maybe not John Stockton numbers, but doing that over the course of the season would make him a middle-of-the-road Pac-12 point. Does he look to score? Sure, but so did both Paytons (and so does Lillard, Curry, and every other good NBA point guard). Does he score efficiently? Not yet. But at the end of the day I think the issue isn't that he's not a point guard, its that he was a freshman who should have been playing 10-15 minutes a game as a reserve while learning to play at this level, but was in a situation where he barely saw the bench and was expected to be a major scorer because the roster was so bleak behind him. Exactly. Yes, the Beavers need to improve their overall talent, but McLaughlin isn't the problem. He was just thrust into the starting lineup way to quickly out of necessity. Tres also can initiate the offense when he's in there, which helps too. Sure it would be great to have a "true point guard," but they don't grow on trees. I think we'll see McLaughlin take a step forward next year based on his improvement during the second half of the conference slate and the experience he gained this year. |
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