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Post by TheGlove on Dec 5, 2015 8:46:54 GMT -8
The list is BS and totally subjective. Based way to much on Pro career. Elway sucked in college.
My all Pac 12 Team would look like this:
QB: Terry Baker
RB: Steven Jackson
RB: Jacquizz Rodgers
WR: James Rodgers
WR: Mike Hass
WR: Chad Johnson
WR: Brandin Cooks
TE: Marty Mauer
OL: No one else pays attention, so why would I?
DL: Esera Tualo
DL: The Presidents
DL: Bill Swancutt
LB: Siegler
LB: Nick Barnett
LB: James Allen
DB: All those guys we have in pros right now + Dennis Weathersby
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 5, 2015 10:12:40 GMT -8
You missed Nick Barnett.
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Post by TheGlove on Dec 5, 2015 10:59:20 GMT -8
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Post by zzufrevaeb on Dec 5, 2015 13:29:32 GMT -8
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Post by atownbeaver on Dec 7, 2015 15:17:52 GMT -8
"We tossed it 1,355 times in those years actually. " >2003-2005 we actually were 828-1524/11232 yds in the Hass years... I believe (7) guys tossed at least one pass. 274/533 ... 287/532 ... 267/459 >SJ and DW totaled almost 2000 on the ground >DW and Cole 1000 >Bernard 1321 Stats abound... but if you pick Hass above Lee, Swann, or Cooks (the biggest snub for OSU) I want to play you in fantasy league. LOL Hass > Margerum Dwight Wright and Ryan Cole... please tell me you are not making a ground game argument on Dwight Wright and Ryan Cole. Senior year DA and Hass was the offense. period. Maybe you have something in 2003 with SJ... and Bernard certainly came on to the scene in 2005 with Matt Moore... But 2004 was possibly the worse rushing year OSU has had... like ever. (a clear exaggeration.) in 2013 and 2014 we still managed over 1200 and over 1400 yards on the ground with Cooks playing and we were all bemoaning how god awful our ground game was... in 2004 we TOTALED 1022 yards on the ground not counting DA's minus 152. Wright averaged 3.8 a pop and Cole average 2.6. Hass played opposite Anthony Wheat-Brown and Marcel Love... IN 2005 Hass played opposited AWB and Josh Hawkins. Joe Newton hurt for the year with that ankle injury... Mike has WAS the ONLY passing threat in 2 of his 3 years easily and still produced facing the best CBs and double coverage year in and year out. I'd take Hass over Lee and Swann any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Swan only had okay stats even given the era he played in, was on absolutely loaded USC team that was 12-0 in his Jr. year and 9-2 his senior year and featured absolutely dominating rushing games. Mike Hass owns Swann not just in actual stats, but in all conference awards and records as well. Cooks played opposite Wheaton his Sophmore year and I'd take Richard Mullaney all day over AWB, Love, Hawkins, George Gillet and several other people Hass pared up with (excluding sophmore year Newsom). anyways, TL;DR. number of pass attempts is weak sauce argument. Hass was a one man wrecking crew, unlike Swann and Lee. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 7, 2015 15:28:46 GMT -8
"We tossed it 1,355 times in those years actually. " >2003-2005 we actually were 828-1524/11232 yds in the Hass years... I believe (7) guys tossed at least one pass. 274/533 ... 287/532 ... 267/459 >SJ and DW totaled almost 2000 on the ground >DW and Cole 1000 >Bernard 1321 Stats abound... but if you pick Hass above Lee, Swann, or Cooks (the biggest snub for OSU) I want to play you in fantasy league. LOL Hass > Margerum Dwight Wright and Ryan Cole... please tell me you are not making a ground game argument on Dwight Wright and Ryan Cole. Senior year DA and Hass was the offense. period. Maybe you have something in 2003 with SJ... and Bernard certainly came on to the scene in 2005 with Matt Moore... But 2004 was possibly the worse rushing year OSU has had... like ever. (a clear exaggeration.) in 2013 and 2014 we still managed over 1200 and over 1400 yards on the ground with Cooks playing and we were all bemoaning how god awful our ground game was... in 2004 we TOTALED 1022 yards on the ground not counting DA's minus 152. Wright averaged 3.8 a pop and Cole average 2.6. Hass played opposite Anthony Wheat-Brown and Marcel Love... IN 2005 Hass played opposited AWB and Josh Hawkins. Joe Newton hurt for the year with that ankle injury... Mike has WAS the ONLY passing threat in 2 of his 3 years easily and still produced facing the best CBs and double coverage year in and year out. I'd take Hass over Lee and Swann any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Swan only had okay stats even given the era he played in, was on absolutely loaded USC team that was 12-0 in his Jr. year and 9-2 his senior year and featured absolutely dominating rushing games. Mike Hass owns Swann not just in actual stats, but in all conference awards and records as well. Cooks played opposite Wheaton his Sophmore year and I'd take Richard Mullaney all day over AWB, Love, Hawkins, George Gillet and several other people Hass pared up with (excluding sophmore year Newsom). anyways, TL;DR. number of pass attempts is weak sauce argument. Hass was a one man wrecking crew, unlike Swann and Lee. Dude buy him a ring! Hass works for Nike maybe he's still available??? Attempts kinda do matter... ya see SC had waaaaaaay more weapons than just a WR or two... so if your team tosses less, you get less opportunities to actually get any targets/catches... do you see where the connection is??? LOL Your love affair is admirable... but as I said college, pro or otherwise... Swann was not only picked by experts while in college, but also in the NFL as one of the greats. I guess you would still argue you know more. Put Hass on those SC teams... oops, he most likely would never make the team let alone see the field... or Swann with DA??? Hmmm a no brainer! |
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