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Post by shalombeaver on Mar 7, 2017 16:53:33 GMT -8
I went to the second UC Davis game on Saturday and saw something I didn't understand. When we hit a fly ball, it seems like our guys on base would keep a foot on the bag so they could tag up and hopefully get an extra base - that makes sense to me, anyway. It seemed like our guys took their normal lead off from the base, though, and when the ball was caught in the outfield they didn't have time to go back to the base, tag up and run. Is they had stayed on base, it seems like they would have had a better chance to get the additional base. I must be wrong, but don't understand why. Can someone please explain - thanks!
P.S. I grew up playing soccer, so I'm "late to this game!"
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Post by orangeblood on Mar 7, 2017 17:17:12 GMT -8
It depends where the ball is hit. A runner must make a judgment decision whether he could advance on a caught fly ball. If so, he tags. If he thinks he could not advance on a caught fly he must go as far as he can in case the ball is not caught, but not so far as to not get back to his base safely. Generally a runner on first never tags. A runner on second will perhaps tag on a fly to deep right or to deep center. A fly to left is hard to advance on unless it is very deep in the left-centerfield alley or the fielder is attempting a diving catch running away. Also, if a runner on second goes back to tag on a ball that is questionable for being caught he probably then can't score if it is not caught. Each situation is unique. It is best for the runner to err on the side of caution when making that decision. It is worse for a runner not to score on a ball that drops in than to not advance on a caught fly, therefore unless the runner is always sure he can advance on a caught fly, he will go part way.
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Post by shalombeaver on Mar 7, 2017 17:34:52 GMT -8
Thank you so much. Everything you said makes sense. If I recall correctly, a couple of times the ball was hit to right field with someone on first, and the runner was 10'-15' feet off base. Since they rarely tag on first base, this seems like a good strategy in case the ball was dropped. The same thing applied when one of our guys was on 2nd.
Thanks very much for explaining to a newbie, orangeblood!
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Post by lefty on Mar 7, 2017 17:35:22 GMT -8
Orangeblood pretty well hit the nail on the head with the hammer. Baseball is a cool game because every situation is different even on a similar play. The score and the inning will affect the play/coach's decision as will the speed of the baserunner and the strength and accuracy of the fielder's arm. Hint: Don't test Ichiro's arm!
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Post by nforkbeav on Mar 7, 2017 22:51:09 GMT -8
Orangeblood pretty well hit the nail on the head with the hammer. Baseball is a cool game because every situation is different even on a similar play. The score and the inning will affect the play/coach's decision as will the speed of the baserunner and the strength and accuracy of the fielder's arm. Hint: Don't test Ichiro's arm! Good point on the arm strength to go along with orangebloods explanation. Scouting reports can help determine pregame how each situation should be handled based on the other teams personnel and their capabilities. For example, knowing ahead of time the fielders arm strength, a base runners speed, a pitchers tendencies, etc... helps dictate how you go about things. If you have detailed info, like how long it takes a pitcher to deliver and how long it takes a catcher to fire a pitch out to second, then you can figure out with a good degree of certainty which base runner(you should already know all your own players times) can steal and beat the throw. |
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Post by damnstraight on Mar 7, 2017 22:59:01 GMT -8
Or Conforto's, right Schmucks?
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Post by eugenedave on Mar 7, 2017 23:05:22 GMT -8
UC Davis learned pretty quick not to run on our catchers. And not to fall asleep off first base, between pitches.
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Post by jdogge on Mar 8, 2017 7:00:46 GMT -8
Or Conforto's, right Schmucks? Or Dylan Davis. Watched him throw some bullets at Keizer-Salem. |
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Post by Tigardbeav on Mar 8, 2017 12:35:05 GMT -8
Or Conforto's, right Schmucks? I'd link that video but i think everyone is tired of watching that sh1t maybe not. That don't ever get old |
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Post by greshambeaver on Mar 9, 2017 14:02:31 GMT -8
Puig..
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Post by obf on Mar 21, 2017 7:59:08 GMT -8
Or Conforto's, right Schmucks? I'd link that video but i think everyone is tired of watching that sh1t maybe not. That don't ever get old I like this angle better:  Love the emotional spike at the end by Ryan Gorton, I wonder what Pat Casey felt about it though  |
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Post by sagebrush on Mar 21, 2017 8:08:17 GMT -8
Guy on first is often in a lose/lose situation. Looper to short outfield. OF charging in, SS/2B going out and other covering second. Go too far and ball is caught, easy double of first. Don't commit to second and the ball falls in, pretty easy force at second if ball is fielded cleanly. Batter loses too as his Texas League base hit becomes a FC.
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Post by mbabeav on Mar 21, 2017 9:26:16 GMT -8
I'd link that video but i think everyone is tired of watching that sh1t maybe not. That don't ever get old I like this angle better: Love the emotional spike at the end by Ryan Gorton, I wonder what Pat Casey felt about it though Gotta love the umpire - you have to make the call, but you get as stoked about good baseball as anyone else, and that was a play for the ages! |
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Post by sagebrush on Mar 21, 2017 14:01:50 GMT -8
It's called selling the call. When a guy is out by two steps, everyone in the world knows it, Blue calmly, slowly, without any show, just simply verifies it. With this play, that close, at the plate, you wind up and let everyone in the world know you not only have it, you have it RIGHT.
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