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Post by beavershoopsfan on Mar 7, 2017 16:12:14 GMT -8
The PAC-12 video highlights link below of the 2017 women's basketball tournament championship game shows a hot start by the Beavs followed (sadly) by a comeback win by Stanford to claim the tourney title last Sunday. Check out one of the early second half highlights shown in the video. Is Stanford's "Closing Elevator" screen in which two Cardinal screeners move together quickly to "shut the door" on the pursuing Pivec a legal play? I know that it was not called a moving screen during the game, but should it have been called a foul if the defender was close enough to Samuelson to have her path impeded by the two screeners who appear to be clearly moving together after Samuelson moves through the gap? That "Closing Elevator" screen gave Samuelson the separation she needed to get off a successful three-pointer and bring Stanford closer to OSU during the early stages of the third quarter. Perhaps the "Closing Elevator" screen is the equivalent of the goal line pick play in football, a discretionary and difficult call for the referees. With the emphasis in recent years of the need to not be moving when setting an offensive screen, any referee seeing clear movement by either or both of Stanford's screeners should have resulted in a foul call on Stanford. Or, am I wrong and it happens most of the time with that type of screen without an offensive foul being called? pac-12.com/videos/highlights-stanford-wins-its-12th-pac-12-womens-basketball-tournament-title
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 7, 2017 16:22:09 GMT -8
The PAC-12 video highlights link below of the 2017 women's basketball tournament championship game shows a hot start by the Beavs followed (sadly) by a comeback win by Stanford to claim the tourney title last Sunday. Check out one of the early second half highlights shown in the video. Is Stanford's "Closing Elevator" screen in which two Cardinal screeners move together quickly to "shut the door" on the pursuing Pivec a legal play? I know that it was not called a moving screen during the game, but should it have been called a foul if the defender was close enough to Samuelson to have her path impeded by the two screeners who appear to be clearly moving together after Samuelson moves through the gap? That "Closing Elevator" screen gave Samuelson the separation she needed to get off a successful three-pointer and bring Stanford closer to OSU during the early stages of the third quarter. Perhaps the "Closing Elevator" screen is the equivalent of the goal line pick play in football, a discretionary and difficult call for the referees. With the emphasis in recent years of the need to not be moving when setting an offensive screen, any referee seeing clear movement by either or both of Stanford's screeners should have resulted in a foul call on Stanford. Or, am I wrong and it happens most of the time with that type of screen without an offensive foul being called? pac-12.com/videos/highlights-stanford-wins-its-12th-pac-12-womens-basketball-tournament-titleDidn't we do something very similar against Baylor in the regional final to free Jamie W for an open shot right before half? Mulkey didn't like it, at all.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Mar 7, 2017 17:18:22 GMT -8
I'm thinking it's legal as long as there's not much contact. If Pivec had ended up on the floor rather than running around them they'd probably have called a blocking penalty, or at worse a foul on Pivec.
I'm amazed at how physical women's basketball has become. Our men's team could take some notes on setting picks, and playing the pick to lose your defender while possessing the ball. I'm now a fan.
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Post by Tigardbeav on Mar 7, 2017 19:23:11 GMT -8
Didn't we do something very similar against Baylor in the regional final to free Jamie W for an open shot right before half? Mulkey didn't like it, at all. I know Wiese ran through a double pick like that on an OOB play recently. I thought it was a slick way to free her up. The screeners did not move though. They were set very close together. Syd ran 2 circles on the OOB. The 2nd time she went through the screeners
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