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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 1, 2017 11:56:32 GMT -8
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Post by freddiekruger on Mar 1, 2017 12:17:39 GMT -8
Probably one of the easiest sports to turn around with a few great recruits. Right Coach Tinkle?
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Post by 2ndGenBeaver on Mar 1, 2017 13:12:17 GMT -8
Probably one of the easiest sports to turn around with a few great recruits. Right Coach Tinkle? Great recruits end up at the great programs.... What SR did was he went and found the *right* recruits, and coached them up to craft a great program. And then put himself in line for some of those great recruits. I am impressed with how SR has not brought in any "projects" or taken fliers on iffy, baggage-laden recruits along the way. And I also note that he could fill more scholarships, but he seems to mostly sign top-100 types that fit his mold. And talent spot other recruits with potential. Some of this is in sharp contrast for what is going on in the men's space (but there are threads galore on that topic on the Orange Express board). And maybe there are differences between men's and women's that we are ignoring here. Regardless, SR came in with a vision and had the execution skills to put his vision into action and deliver. I think that is a very rare commodity, and that is what makes SR a home run hire. Go Beavs! |
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Post by wetrodentia on Mar 1, 2017 13:40:15 GMT -8
I like this line in the story in hindsight: "..the possibility of Oregon State turning into a Connecticut- or Tennessee-caliber team is almost impossible." Doesn't seem so impossible now.
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Post by bennyskid on Mar 1, 2017 13:57:16 GMT -8
Well . . . UConn, Tennessee and Notre Dame have one h*u*g*e advantage over OSU. They are all located in the perfect sized town. Big enough to fill a 10,000 seat coliseum, but without any pro teams to compete against for attention. The Hartford, Knoxville and South Bend newspapers and TV cover the college programs as intensely as the Corvallis GT, but with something like ten times the circulation. There is somewhere between 500k and 1m potential fans within a half-hour of each of these school - we have about 200k.
OSU leads the Pac in attendance by a comfortable margin. But it's going to be hard to get that 4000 number to the 10000+ that these other schools can brag about. It's hard to say that we're elite when we aren't even in the top 20 in attendance.
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Post by Werebeaver on Mar 1, 2017 14:47:08 GMT -8
Well . . . UConn, Tennessee and Notre Dame have one h*u*g*e advantage over OSU. They are all located in the perfect sized town. Big enough to fill a 10,000 seat coliseum, but without any pro teams to compete against for attention. The Hartford, Knoxville and South Bend newspapers and TV cover the college programs as intensely as the Corvallis GT, but with something like ten times the circulation. There is somewhere between 500k and 1m potential fans within a half-hour of each of these school - we have about 200k. OSU leads the Pac in attendance by a comfortable margin. But it's going to be hard to get that 4000 number to the 10000+ that these other schools can brag about. It's hard to say that we're elite when we aren't even in the top 20 in attendance. It's not hard to say OSU is elite OSU is elite. See, easy. |
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Post by kersting13 on Mar 1, 2017 15:48:53 GMT -8
Well . . . UConn, Tennessee and Notre Dame have one h*u*g*e advantage over OSU. They are all located in the perfect sized town. Big enough to fill a 10,000 seat coliseum, but without any pro teams to compete against for attention. The Hartford, Knoxville and South Bend newspapers and TV cover the college programs as intensely as the Corvallis GT, but with something like ten times the circulation. There is somewhere between 500k and 1m potential fans within a half-hour of each of these school - we have about 200k. OSU leads the Pac in attendance by a comfortable margin. But it's going to be hard to get that 4000 number to the 10000+ that these other schools can brag about. It's hard to say that we're elite when we aren't even in the top 20 in attendance. OSU IS currently elite. 3 straight conference titles and a final 4 appearance = elite. Now, to be an elite PROGRAM, you've got to be able to sustain the elite for say, at least 5 years, because MANY teams are capable of being elite for short stretches of time, or during the tenure of one special athlete. Once you reach 5 straight years of elite status, that means you've turned over your entire roster and maintained your elite status. FWIW, attendance isn't the end-all, be-all measure of elite. It's not even really in the top 3 measures of elite. |
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Post by ricke71 on Mar 1, 2017 15:57:08 GMT -8
10000 vs. 9000+ like the other day? Small difference, tho granted that was for PAC 12 title. Who knows tho? In a couple of years the average might jump to 6k 7k 8k or so if Rueck and team continue current projectory. IF OSU WBB becomes THE thing to follow at the college (along with Baseball), I can see it's crowds continuing to grow.
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Post by bennyskid on Mar 1, 2017 16:59:38 GMT -8
Attendance isn't the measure being elite - it's the main driver that gets you to elite. Packed arenas attract recruits and provide the money to pay for coaches, recruiting, practice facilities, and more. They bring media coverage and create excitement around the program.
What I'm trying to say is that you can't just hire a coach and say, "He'll make us elite." We're not elite - yet - and we're not going to get there is if we just assume that Scott has it all handled. We need to get more butts in the stands if we want to see more banners go up in the rafters.
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Post by TheGlove on Mar 1, 2017 17:03:09 GMT -8
the comments on that article are interesting to read...
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Post by Tigardbeav on Mar 1, 2017 17:14:20 GMT -8
the comments on that article are interesting to read... Esp that first one. The one at the top. That guy had to have experience in or around Rueck This one: With Coach Rueck, the atmosphere will turn positively immediately. Then with a little time, the team will become competitive yet remain positive. Coach Rueck's northwest connections and his love of Oregon State and his proven ability to coach women and make them winners are wonderful additions at OSU. It continues the influx of excellent, competent and respected coachs from George Fox. Kind of becoming OSU's "farm system" for coaches. A big "thumbs up." |
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Post by baseba1111 on Mar 1, 2017 18:18:22 GMT -8
the comments on that article are interesting to read... Esp that first one. The one at the top. That guy had to have experience in or around Rueck This one: With Coach Rueck, the atmosphere will turn positively immediately. Then with a little time, the team will become competitive yet remain positive. Coach Rueck's northwest connections and his love of Oregon State and his proven ability to coach women and make them winners are wonderful additions at OSU. It continues the influx of excellent, competent and respected coachs from George Fox. Kind of becoming OSU's "farm system" for coaches. A big "thumbs up." Must have been the "it factor"... although fairly spot on, not even that poster saw this success. I need to redefine "influx" to mean (2)... lol |
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