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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 13, 2017 15:14:47 GMT -8
I'd install center court video/scoreboard (similar to what UW has at Hec Ed), get rid of the scoreboards and banners obscuring the windows and transform them into art glass windows with depictions of our retired number honorees - our holy secular saints. Talk about a basketball "cathedral". It could be done. And if anyone makes an issue over the potential spiritual connection to our secular institution - let's not forget that Basketball was invented at a YMCA.
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Post by alwaysorange on Feb 13, 2017 15:40:27 GMT -8
I'd put signage outside so that people know what is happening now, tomorrow, next week, etc.. pretty poor when there is no advertising.
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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 13, 2017 15:42:53 GMT -8
I'd put signage outside so that people know what is happening now, tomorrow, next week, etc.. pretty poor when there is no advertising. Absolutely. Gill had a coming attractions sign when I was at osu. I think a larger more modern one is entirely appropriate for the 4th largest interior public assembly facility in the State.
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Post by bennyskid on Feb 13, 2017 17:01:40 GMT -8
I like the stained glass idea a lot. Hec, Cameron, the Palestra, and Gill are the four great fieldhouse-style arenas in America. The fieldhouse style has some features that makes them a little harder to work with. In particular, steep rows which put the fans almost to the ceiling, large end walls, big cross beams, and a compact overall footprint. They represented the best of pre-WWII building concepts and make for the noisiest game environment you can find. I *love* Gill and hope that she stands forever. But the design does make for some engineering challenges when it comes to scoreboards and such. (And you'll *never* fit a luxury box into one. Thank God and Slats Gill.) Here's what Hec has. That looks pretty nice to me. Notice the ribbon boards way up high. I wonder how much advertising revenue they produce. Here's Cameron: All they have is a central scoreboard and video boards at the ends similar to ours. The Palestra: Palestra (home to Penn and Philadelphia's "Big 5" rivalry) seats 8725, and has something much like what we have today.
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Post by gzrbvr on Feb 13, 2017 19:19:15 GMT -8
I'd put signage outside so that people know what is happening now, tomorrow, next week, etc.. pretty poor when there is no advertising. Absolutely. Gill had a coming attractions sign when I was at osu. I think a larger more modern one is entirely appropriate for the 4th largest interior public assembly facility in the State. I used to change that sign back in the day--It was a point of pride by the man in charge, (not me) that it was always was up to date and informative. As a side note, if I told you how hazardous it was to access that sign OSHA would have a retroactive heart attack. Plus, the letters were literally held on the sign with baling wire. I spent a good number of rainy hours working on that sign. That was in the days before ponchos. I would do it again in a minute. Gill basketball, Prothro football, Coleman baseball--it was a different world (and a better one) GZR
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Post by lebaneaver on Feb 14, 2017 8:34:47 GMT -8
Hey.....instead of the old flora around Gill (it all looks old and very tired..), we could replace it with (fake) palm trees...eighty footers! Perception... and, GZR..thanks for all your hard work, back in the day...and..you are right. It WAS better (for some....not all).
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Post by damnstraight on Feb 14, 2017 9:24:28 GMT -8
My vision for bringing Gill into the 21st.Century would be fairly drastic and cost millions, but, would give OSU a very modern and competitive arena for years to come. First, I would light up 3 sides of the building so bright it could be seen from I-5 and Eugene. Next, I would push the front of the building (east side) out nearly to SW 26th street and make a new walk-thru OSU Hall of Fame, Trophy Case, Museum, etc. ( see USC Heritage Hall, UTexas-Austin). Finally, and most drastic, I would eliminate the interior circuitious walkway, and replace it with continuous cushioned seating from floor level all the way to the top on the sides as well as both endzones behind baskets ( see Viejas Arena, San Diego St.). Updated restrooms, water faucets, lighting, and concession stands would be necessary as well. Finally, a nice hanging video/scoreboard like Hec Ed. Did I miss anything? Yes I know its only a dream and would cost millions, but, what the Hey?
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Post by gzrbvr on Feb 14, 2017 9:59:55 GMT -8
Hey.....instead of the old flora around Gill (it all looks old and very tired..), we could replace it with (fake) palm trees...eighty footers! Perception... and, GZR..thanks for all your hard work, back in the day...and..you are right. It WAS better (for some....not all). A point of historical interest from those days--All the athletes on scholarship, including the MBB and FB players, were required to work a certain number of hours a week as part of their scholarship. For instance, the BB players would report to Gill coliseum and do jobs around the building such as sweeping etc. I don't think any of them were overworked, you understand, but it was part of the deal in those days. "minor" sports guys were hired to man the gates at Gill and Parker, run the chains, care for the footballs, etc. in place of scholarships. Different times.
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Post by TheGlove on Feb 14, 2017 10:02:08 GMT -8
If only there was a way to find out what was going on at Gill without a reader board...
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Post by bennyskid on Feb 14, 2017 11:05:35 GMT -8
The problem with the fieldhouse design is that the basic envelope is essentially impossible to change. In theory you could extend east or west, but it would be very expensive. Expanding north or south is simply impossible. It is also extremely expensive to change the seating structure. The more practical idea would be to put some "premium" seating in a few key sections - such as mid-court behind the scorer's table - that wouldn't subtract too much from the overall capacity and could command a premium price. As much as I'd love another couple inches of knee space in my section, it wouldn't make a lick of sense for the school to spend millions remodeling the interior to reduce capacity by 20%. I really doubt any changes to the seating arrangements would pencil out for the school. I do think a jumbotron would be a financial win. This is what $1.2 million bought Ball State two years ago: I would imagine that a better jumbotron and wifi - a necessity these days, I'm told - could be obtained for a few million dollars. That's within reason for a fundraising campaign. I'd write a check for 0.1% of that.
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Post by Werebeaver on Feb 15, 2017 18:58:52 GMT -8
I like the stained glass idea a lot. Hec, Cameron, the Palestra, and Gill are the four great fieldhouse-style arenas in America. The fieldhouse style has some features that makes them a little harder to work with. In particular, steep rows which put the fans almost to the ceiling, large end walls, big cross beams, and a compact overall footprint. They represented the best of pre-WWII building concepts and make for the noisiest game environment you can find. I *love* Gill and hope that she stands forever. But the design does make for some engineering challenges when it comes to scoreboards and such. (And you'll *never* fit a luxury box into one. Thank God and Slats Gill.) Here's what Hec has. That looks pretty nice to me. Notice the ribbon boards way up high. I wonder how much advertising revenue they produce. Here's Cameron: All they have is a central scoreboard and video boards at the ends similar to ours. The Palestra: Palestra (home to Penn and Philadelphia's "Big 5" rivalry) seats 8725, and has something much like what we have today. Don't forget. Butler University's Hinkle Fieldhouse
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