Post by beavfan14 on Feb 5, 2017 1:00:47 GMT -8
Actually I haven't missed more then 10 games or so in 15 years as a season ticket holder, and attended at least half or more of the games before that. Grew up in Corvallis watching games in the 80's and attending camps. Have played and watched bball all my life. I'm not implying anything other then I have my own opinions that come from a lot of bball. And that's what I was saying about changing your mind, as you won't change mine. I totally disagree with "your key points" fall on Tinkle. Dew really wanted to play here because his brother plays football. Did Tinkle know he wouldn't attend class? For all apparent knowledge he had turned his academic life around. That's not on Tinkle. Did he know that Bruce, who was really emerging as a great player at the end of the year would also decide not to attend class and have off court issues? Like driving over 100mph and getting into an accident? Not on Tinkle. Did he know that Thompson and Tres would only play a hand full of games together because of injury? Did he know that N'Dyiae would have season ending shoulder surgery? He's not a great player, but is a 7 footer who isn't available. Did he know that Malcolm would leave before his senior season? Yes he knew about Kone, but tried to add a player in Dew.
Give me a break. This is not all on Tinkle. I agree they aren't performing like they should, I said they could get better, and that's is on Tinkle. And yes, they go through lapses that shouldn't happen. But the last couple of weeks, they have played harder and haven't given up. Almost came back against Utah, Colorado, and even tonight. We outscored ASU in the second half by 6. That's not giving up or not running the offense. There was definitely bad lapses in the first half, but really, look at the stats. They took 53 shots and hit 45%, we took 58 and only hit 39%. They were 13-27 from the 3pt line, we were 7-28 for the biggest difference. We were 15-18 from the line, they were 20-30. We had open looks just couldn't seem to connect at opportune times. We ran our offense fine. You may not like the offense, which I actually don't either, but we don't have the players to run with most teams. Again, a little outmaned.
I'm not for or against Tinkle yet. I know he did a great coaching job his first year, and led us to the NCAA tourney for the first time in 26 years last year. I find it hard to believe he forgot how to coach in a couple of months. My point was to give it some time, which I know is hard. We all want to win, and be a perennial Pac12 contender. We need serious improvement by the players and the coaching staff, i'm not giving anyone a pass. I'm just tired of the pointless we suck posts without any reason's why or opinions. I am happy to discuss or argue (hehe) about Oregon State sports, as we are all passionate about them, just don't like the constant negative posts without any constructive criticisms.
Give me a break. This is not all on Tinkle. I agree they aren't performing like they should, I said they could get better, and that's is on Tinkle. And yes, they go through lapses that shouldn't happen. But the last couple of weeks, they have played harder and haven't given up. Almost came back against Utah, Colorado, and even tonight. We outscored ASU in the second half by 6. That's not giving up or not running the offense. There was definitely bad lapses in the first half, but really, look at the stats. They took 53 shots and hit 45%, we took 58 and only hit 39%. They were 13-27 from the 3pt line, we were 7-28 for the biggest difference. We were 15-18 from the line, they were 20-30. We had open looks just couldn't seem to connect at opportune times. We ran our offense fine. You may not like the offense, which I actually don't either, but we don't have the players to run with most teams. Again, a little outmaned.
I'm not for or against Tinkle yet. I know he did a great coaching job his first year, and led us to the NCAA tourney for the first time in 26 years last year. I find it hard to believe he forgot how to coach in a couple of months. My point was to give it some time, which I know is hard. We all want to win, and be a perennial Pac12 contender. We need serious improvement by the players and the coaching staff, i'm not giving anyone a pass. I'm just tired of the pointless we suck posts without any reason's why or opinions. I am happy to discuss or argue (hehe) about Oregon State sports, as we are all passionate about them, just don't like the constant negative posts without any constructive criticisms.
