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Post by orangeattack on Jan 30, 2017 14:18:58 GMT -8
Lokks good vs 4A Texas talent. But, would guess a "hopeful project" that ciaches can utilize his speed. Not sure what type of players were at the Summit/camp he was MVP but he's not a top 150 type RB... if you believe the ranking BS. Just don't see how he fits since a much better recruit in Paul Lucas was never really utilized?! Looking at Pac12 RB recruits we are definitely on the back end looking up. Even the teams we need to gain a foothold against... ASU, Zona, Cal, Buffs, Utah...again that's according to those recruiting gurus. IMO Lucas had an issue with vision and patience. Every time he got the ball in his hands he was going 100mph at all times, which works great when the line is opening a hole big enough to drive a truck through but the rest of the time the defense just adjusts to his speed and takes the correct angle. I feel like this is something you can't teach and it's hard as hell to spot it on high school film. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 14:37:46 GMT -8
Lokks good vs 4A Texas talent. But, would guess a "hopeful project" that ciaches can utilize his speed. Not sure what type of players were at the Summit/camp he was MVP but he's not a top 150 type RB... if you believe the ranking BS. Just don't see how he fits since a much better recruit in Paul Lucas was never really utilized?! Looking at Pac12 RB recruits we are definitely on the back end looking up. Even the teams we need to gain a foothold against... ASU, Zona, Cal, Buffs, Utah...again that's according to those recruiting gurus. IMO Lucas had an issue with vision and patience. Every time he got the ball in his hands he was going 100mph at all times, which works great when the line is opening a hole big enough to drive a truck through but the rest of the time the defense just adjusts to his speed and takes the correct angle. I feel like this is something you can't teach and it's hard as hell to spot it on high school film. he was going 100 mph because he didn't want any contact. Which was another problem. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2017 14:42:18 GMT -8
If i was an NFL coach i would start my meeting by saying ok how many of you were 5 star recruits in high school? You are here because your biggest talent is that you are coachable. |
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Post by kersting13 on Jan 30, 2017 15:19:37 GMT -8
If i was an NFL coach i would start my meeting by saying ok how many of you were 5 star recruits in high school? You are here because your biggest talent is that you are coachable. To be fair, you get to be a top rated HS recruit because you are 6'0" and 200# with speed as a 16-year-old. The best high school (and earlier) athletes are almost always those dudes who hit puberty early and hard. Plenty of kids - both those who get recruited as D-I football players and those who don't - mature a little later than others, so we certainly shouldn't expect all HS rankings to translate to NFL draft status OR NFL success. |
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Post by RenoBeaver on Jan 30, 2017 15:48:20 GMT -8
If i was an NFL coach i would start my meeting by saying ok how many of you were 5 star recruits in high school? You are here because your biggest talent is that you are coachable. To be fair, you get to be a top rated HS recruit because you are 6'0" and 200# with speed as a 16-year-old. The best high school (and earlier) athletes are almost always those dudes who hit puberty early and hard. Plenty of kids - both those who get recruited as D-I football players and those who don't - mature a little later than others, so we certainly shouldn't expect all HS rankings to translate to NFL draft status OR NFL success. If you ever want to read a good book that incorporates this thought, read Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell. He has an entire section of how the majority of youth hockey stars, many of which go on to play pro hockey, were the oldest kids in their classes. |
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Post by justdamwin on Jan 30, 2017 15:49:21 GMT -8
To be fair, you get to be a top rated HS recruit because you are 6'0" and 200# with speed as a 16-year-old. The best high school (and earlier) athletes are almost always those dudes who hit puberty early and hard. Plenty of kids - both those who get recruited as D-I football players and those who don't - mature a little later than others, so we certainly shouldn't expect all HS rankings to translate to NFL draft status OR NFL success. If you ever want to read a good book that incorporates this thought, read Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell. He has an entire section of how the majority of youth hockey stars, many of which go on to play pro hockey, were the oldest kids in their classes. Or Watch; Redshirting Kindergarten Outliers is pretty cool |
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Post by kersting13 on Jan 30, 2017 15:54:40 GMT -8
To be fair, you get to be a top rated HS recruit because you are 6'0" and 200# with speed as a 16-year-old. The best high school (and earlier) athletes are almost always those dudes who hit puberty early and hard. Plenty of kids - both those who get recruited as D-I football players and those who don't - mature a little later than others, so we certainly shouldn't expect all HS rankings to translate to NFL draft status OR NFL success. If you ever want to read a good book that incorporates this thought, read Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell. He has an entire section of how the majority of youth hockey stars, many of which go on to play pro hockey, were the oldest kids in their classes. Yes, I've also read a study that more MLB players were born in August (which used to be the Little League age cut-off prior to 2004) than any other month. Will be interesting to see if they re-do the study and it shows the same results for the time frame when the cut-off was May (2004-2014), and now is September. |
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Post by jdogge on Jan 30, 2017 16:18:58 GMT -8
To be fair, you get to be a top rated HS recruit because you are 6'0" and 200# with speed as a 16-year-old. The best high school (and earlier) athletes are almost always those dudes who hit puberty early and hard. Plenty of kids - both those who get recruited as D-I football players and those who don't - mature a little later than others, so we certainly shouldn't expect all HS rankings to translate to NFL draft status OR NFL success. If you ever want to read a good book that incorporates this thought, read Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell. He has an entire section of how the majority of youth hockey stars, many of which go on to play pro hockey, were the oldest kids in their classes. He also pointed out that it takes 10K hours to master anything. |
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Post by RenoBeaver on Jan 30, 2017 18:07:09 GMT -8
If you ever want to read a good book that incorporates this thought, read Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell. He has an entire section of how the majority of youth hockey stars, many of which go on to play pro hockey, were the oldest kids in their classes. He also pointed out that it takes 10K hours to master anything. Which is why I kinda found the title of the book to be misleading. They aren't outliers IMO, they are masters at their craft, or in the case of hockey and football players, bigger than everybody as a kid so the cream rises to the top before the kids get a chance to catch up. An outlier to me would be just the opposite of what he describes as outliers. Like the guy that recently taught himself to write code and sold his app for millions. Or the guy who bashes his head in the pool and somehow becomes a concert pianist without ever having taken a lesson. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2017 6:53:23 GMT -8
If you ever want to read a good book that incorporates this thought, read Outliers by Malcolm Gladwell. He has an entire section of how the majority of youth hockey stars, many of which go on to play pro hockey, were the oldest kids in their classes. He also pointed out that it takes 10K hours to master anything. Most dudes are "masters" at something |
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Post by jdogge on Jan 31, 2017 9:37:16 GMT -8
He also pointed out that it takes 10K hours to master anything. Most dudes are "masters" at something Yes they are. |
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Post by beaver94 on Jan 31, 2017 10:38:53 GMT -8
Most dudes are "masters" at something Yes they are. And 10,000 hours is probably still relevant. |
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Post by jdogge on Jan 31, 2017 17:17:38 GMT -8
And 10,000 hours is probably still relevant. Rosie must be tired. |
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Post by orangeattack on Feb 1, 2017 11:17:42 GMT -8
IMO Lucas had an issue with vision and patience. Every time he got the ball in his hands he was going 100mph at all times, which works great when the line is opening a hole big enough to drive a truck through but the rest of the time the defense just adjusts to his speed and takes the correct angle. I feel like this is something you can't teach and it's hard as hell to spot it on high school film. he was going 100 mph because he didn't want any contact. Which was another problem. this comment seems even more salient now that he's given up football for track. |
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