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Post by ag87 on Jan 11, 2017 14:15:56 GMT -8
Tres is more Europe or Asia, or NBA D-League. IMHO. I think that is entirely possible. Even if it's not NBA, I'm assuming players make over 200K in the better European leagues? His Dad knows something about that. |
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Post by gzrbvr on Jan 11, 2017 18:42:22 GMT -8
Tres is more Europe or Asia, or NBA D-League. IMHO. Have to agree with this assessment. I find it hard to believe a coaches son could develop into such a good player being completely one-handed. He can pretty much get away with it at this level (barely) but it will hurt him at higher levels. |
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Post by jdogge on Jan 11, 2017 20:43:20 GMT -8
Tres is more Europe or Asia, or NBA D-League. IMHO. Ouch, that's mean. |
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Post by TheGlove on Jan 11, 2017 20:53:18 GMT -8
Tres is more Europe or Asia, or NBA D-League. IMHO. Ouch, that's mean. not meant to be mean but honest. He does gave a couple of years to develop |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 11, 2017 21:29:47 GMT -8
not meant to be mean but honest. He does gave a couple of years to develop True... one handed, not overly athletic, not big strong power type, can't get off the floor... has a long way to go to be 6'8" 3 in the NBA. |
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Post by ochobeavo on Jan 12, 2017 8:07:01 GMT -8
Count me as another one who thinks Tres is light years away from the NBA. One handed, not sure who he can guard at that level, don't think the head-down/go to the hoop and get fouled will work against legit NBA bigs.. but I do like him... and if you can do one thing REALLY REALLY well, sometimes there's a spot for you.
Another way to look at how incredibly hard it is to get into the NBA? GPII went undrafted and is playing in the D-League.
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Post by orangeblood on Jan 12, 2017 9:28:54 GMT -8
I think Tres may end up being one of the greatest ever to play for OSU. His jersey may be retired and hanging from the rafters if he can stay healthy. That being said, I think he is a "tweener" for the NBA. It's possibly he may find himself a slot as a role player or a heady backup, but there are hundreds of quality candidates each year for a few open slots. The college game and the NBA are two totally different animals.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 12, 2017 11:49:32 GMT -8
I think Tres may end up being one of the greatest ever to play for OSU. His jersey may be retired and hanging from the rafters if he can stay healthy. That being said, I think he is a "tweener" for the NBA. It's possibly he may find himself a slot as a role player or a heady backup, but there are hundreds of quality candidates each year for a few open slots. The college game and the NBA are two totally different animals. HUH?  You mean like Sitton, Green, Johnson, Payton, GPII, Conner, to name a few? ? Even Haskin, Ortiz, Barry, Counts Cunningham, Halbrook, Blume, Radford, Shelton? Not even at Jackson, Sherwood level yet... He'd have to RS and REALLY get better in multiple areas... no slam on Tres, but all time greats at OSU is quite a jump for him... and most fo those guys had limited success at the NBA level. |
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Post by gzrbvr on Jan 12, 2017 13:18:47 GMT -8
I think Tres may end up being one of the greatest ever to play for OSU. His jersey may be retired and hanging from the rafters if he can stay healthy. That being said, I think he is a "tweener" for the NBA. It's possibly he may find himself a slot as a role player or a heady backup, but there are hundreds of quality candidates each year for a few open slots. The college game and the NBA are two totally different animals. HUH? You mean like Sitton, Green, Johnson, Payton, GPII, Conner, to name a few? ? Even Haskin, Ortiz, Barry, Counts Cunningham, Halbrook, Blume, Radford, Shelton? Not even at Jackson, Sherwood level yet... He'd have to RS and REALLY get better in multiple areas... no slam on Tres, but all time greats at OSU is quite a jump for him... and most fo those guys had limited success at the NBA level. Baseball, not slamming your post in anyway, but I want to add one guy who always seems to be left off these lists, Dave Gambee--He was the star of a Beaver team that won at least a portion of the league championship. Also, he played something like 13 years in the NBA--a terrific player by anyone's definition--way better than Jackson, Sherwood, Cunningham and some of the others on your list. Again, not slamming the guys listed, but Gambee is way up on the list of great Beaver MBB players. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 12, 2017 13:21:15 GMT -8
HUH? You mean like Sitton, Green, Johnson, Payton, GPII, Conner, to name a few? ? Even Haskin, Ortiz, Barry, Counts Cunningham, Halbrook, Blume, Radford, Shelton? Not even at Jackson, Sherwood level yet... He'd have to RS and REALLY get better in multiple areas... no slam on Tres, but all time greats at OSU is quite a jump for him... and most fo those guys had limited success at the NBA level. Baseball, not slamming your post in anyway, but I want to add one guy who always seems to be left off these lists, Dave Gambee--He was the star of a Beaver team that won at least a portion of the league championship. Also, he played something like 13 years in the NBA--a terrific player by anyone's definition--way better than Jackson, Sherwood, Cunningham and some of the others on your list. Again, not slamming the guys listed, but Gambee is way up on the list of great Beaver MBB players. No offense taken... just typed out what came to mind quickly. I also think Jim Jarvis, Boyd, Lee, Nickleberry are highly underrated... along with a few (or quite a few) others... |
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Jan 12, 2017 13:23:35 GMT -8
A comment on Tres. I get the feeling we haven't seen what he is capable of just yet. Season 1 he came off of nearly half a year on the couch and was just getting into game shape about the time he re-injured his foot... which leads to another 5 months on the couch and he's looking improved even though he had a more or less wasted off-season, then gets a broken wrist.
I keep hearing how he's completely one handed... but I saw him do some right handed stuff thr first couple games this season.....
I'm wondering just how healed up he was at any point last season. He had a bad wheel, at least a recuperating one, and depending on what on what caused it he may have had issues with either pushing off or landing on that particular leg. Trying to accommodate a weak leg can make a person look very one handed.
Just saying I personally won't completely judge any kid just weeks or months removed from coming off a leg injury. I'd give him (others like Kone as well) a healthy 6-8 months to get the legs to where they should be before trusting a snap judgement. There's a lot to like about him.
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Post by gzrbvr on Jan 12, 2017 14:03:38 GMT -8
Fair enough--I want him to succeed at OSU and in the future at whatever level he play at. One thing for sure, he plays hard all the time.
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Post by ag87 on Jan 12, 2017 14:22:20 GMT -8
When I wrote the original comment, I was primarily making an observation about his personality - not his basketball skills or ceiling. He just seems like the type of kid with an agenda in life. I was making a guess he is looking forward to what lies ahead and that is more appealing than a fifth lap in Corvallis. Disclaimer - never met him or any of the family.
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Post by baseba1111 on Jan 12, 2017 14:39:41 GMT -8
When I wrote the original comment, I was primarily making an observation about his personality - not his basketball skills or ceiling. He just seems like the type of kid with an agenda in life. I was making a guess he is looking forward to what lies ahead and that is more appealing than a fifth lap in Corvallis. Disclaimer - never met him or any of the family. Not a comment on your post... but, he seems exactly like a kid with an agenda, intelligent, polite (have met him), good decision maker, seems to stay out of trouble... So... again, not NBA material!! Too good of kid... |
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Post by beaverstever on Jan 16, 2017 21:11:18 GMT -8
The big-men recruiting losses since his first class are really starting to pile up for WT (and perhaps more appropriately, his staff). Not getting Froling probably isn't that big of a loss in itself, the big problem is that he lost - and has been losing. Dating clear back to Boucher, he just hasn't been able to close bigs that could help immediately with some physicality. I mean seriously, is it that hard to find and land say a Jarmal Reid body in the JC ranks? At least somebody who could come in and lean on the opposing bigs so Drew has legs in the 2nd half, grab some boards and set some meaningful screens?
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You mean like Sitton, Green, Johnson, Payton, GPII, Conner, to name a few?