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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 21, 2016 15:47:14 GMT -8
After that That civil war win! He deff deserved a extension! Plus he brings so much more toughness to the program! I hope Anderson stays with the team forever!! Maybe by 'forever' we can all learn the proper spelling of his name? Tough fans deff don't have 2 spell correctly bro!
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 21, 2016 16:04:08 GMT -8
Lets just say that a few on this site alone are in that group. Only in your head. Ya... that's it! No one on this board since it's inception or caryovers from PO EVER complained about MR's bowl extensions and then the effect they had on a possible buyout... ever! LMAO In who's head... lol
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 21, 2016 16:08:17 GMT -8
Are those exact people here praising this extension? I have no idea. And neither does anyone else. That's the point. I'm calling out baseba1111 on his BS statement. Don't have to be a tech genius to look up past posts. Try it, you'll like the flavor of your absolute nonsense.
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Post by TheGlove on Dec 21, 2016 16:09:10 GMT -8
Ya... that's it! No one on this board since it's inception or caryovers from PO EVER complained about MR's bowl extensions and then the effect they had on a possible buyout... ever! LMAO In who's head... lol Nice try. Of course people complained about MR's bowl extensions. But you stated that these same complainers are now supporting the GA extension. Of this you have no evidence and are just talking out of your ass.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 21, 2016 16:17:48 GMT -8
Ya... that's it! No one on this board since it's inception or caryovers from PO EVER complained about MR's bowl extensions and then the effect they had on a possible buyout... ever! LMAO In who's head... lol Nice try. Of course people complained about MR's bowl extensions. But you stated that these same complainers are now supporting the GA extension. Of this you have no evidence and are just talking out of your ass. Oh "supreme one" you pick the lamest ass points to take task with. Without doing the research to refute said post I guess it is your ass with chapped "lips". Not doing the research for you... nor naming names to start another MR vs GA thread. PS- since PO's demise you'd miss a lot of the former complaints. Have a nice holiday 😊
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 21, 2016 16:21:52 GMT -8
He and his staff looks to be turning the corner, at least in JUCO recruits which is something that Riley NEVER embraced, (he wanted 4 year guys) but I think was a huge part of why the OLINE and LB had 3 year stretches were they really sucked. Hmmm, I've seen this Riley never embraced JUCO recruits claim bantied about in the past and never quite understood it. Andersen has three so far this year, had 6 last year. Riley had 5 in '04, 6 in '05, 8 in '06, 6 in '07, 6 in'08, 5 in '13 and 4 in '14. I could only find one year in his tenure he didn't have a signed recruit with the word "college" in his school. He did have a stretch in the middle of his tenure of 4 years that he took 2 or fewer, and I suspect his goal was to get to where he only needed to take high school kids. It'll be curious to see if Andersen shoots to "embrace" JUCOs forever of it it is need based.
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Post by nforkbeav on Dec 21, 2016 16:30:08 GMT -8
That's really it in a nutshell. Losing to the ducks tarnished anything done prior in the eyes of many. Doesn't matter he faced the ducks during their all time height of success compared to the 2 win duck team we beat this year. There are many among us who are more satisfied with a poor to mediocre season if it includes a CW win, than an 8 or 9 win season if it includes a CW loss. I think that would change some if the CW game wasn't played at the end of the season. If it came earlier in the year with time to win more games and move on it wouldn't be the lasting memory at the end of the season it is now and have a lessor impact on how the season is viewed by the fans. It's true that Beaver fans AND Andersen are getting a lot of mileage out of beating the worst *uck team in over 20 years. Yep, and after a long drought it's to be expected regardless how bad they are. Let's not forget it was MR who was the first to beat the ducks this year and set in motion the start of their long painful slide into the P12 cellar.
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Post by TheGlove on Dec 21, 2016 16:45:07 GMT -8
Nice try. Of course people complained about MR's bowl extensions. But you stated that these same complainers are now supporting the GA extension. Of this you have no evidence and are just talking out of your ass. Oh "supreme one" you pick the lamest ass points to take task with. Without doing the research to refute said post I guess it is your ass with chapped "lips". Not doing the research for you... nor naming names to start another MR vs GA thread. PS- since PO's demise you'd miss a lot of the former complaints. Have a nice holiday 😊 I don't have to research or refute your points because you didn't make one that's refutable. You spouted trash and were called out. The slide down the sewer to name-calling is just more evidence you're completely full of crap on this topic. Attack me because you don't have any evidence to back up your point. Here's some advice: Only stick to stuff you know, otherwise you end up getting called out (which apparently you don't like). Don't use such a broad brush to paint a picture of people because you'll only go outside the lines.
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Post by orangeattack on Dec 21, 2016 17:42:44 GMT -8
Oh "supreme one" you pick the lamest ass points to take task with. Without doing the research to refute said post I guess it is your ass with chapped "lips". Not doing the research for you... nor naming names to start another MR vs GA thread. PS- since PO's demise you'd miss a lot of the former complaints. Have a nice holiday 😊 I don't have to research or refute your points because you didn't make one that's refutable. You spouted trash and were called out. The slide down the sewer to name-calling is just more evidence you're completely full of crap on this topic. Attack me because you don't have any evidence to back up your point. Here's some advice: Only stick to stuff you know, otherwise you end up getting called out (which apparently you don't like). Don't use such a broad brush to paint a picture of people because you'll only go outside the lines. you know.. from a semi impartial point of view.. The original statement was a rolleyes and grunt at the cross section of fans who both derided Riley's 1 year rollover and those who support CGA's extension. There's an easy Venn Diagram way to explain this - on the left are the people who derided Riley's Lifetime Contract. On the right are the people who support CGA's extension. In the middle, in the red, those are the people that baseba1111 is directing his disdain towards. Is that group small? Is it large? How much do they overlap? I don't know but you can't deny that these people are going to in fact exist. I don't think forming up a mob to go figure out who these people are by name is appropriate. lol Now, mix in some ad-hominem attacks and some name-calling and nobody can walk away or whatever but the argument is kind of silly.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Dec 21, 2016 18:26:53 GMT -8
C'mon Beaver fans, we're smarter than this. Besides, how does a 1-year extension compare to a contracted 1-year extension every time you make a bowl appearance? We are also in a very different era of college football, strangely, and Riley was a bridge to this new era. Look, Riley basically took OS to a bowl game every year during Riley II when that got added to his contract. Then things starts going sideways, and the fans turned. BUT..it can't be argued that Riley was underpaid, his staff was underpaid, and this was one way the BDC could reward Riley. Fans viewed it as a lifetime contract, well, those years were starting to burn off.
Fastforward to the start of 2017. If OS goes sideways much longer, the fans are going to turn on CGA and this extension.
Hey, at one point the fans turned on Bill Snyder. Than the longed for Bill Snyder to come back. The exact same thing could possibly happen here if CGA can't get OS to Riley level.
This is sports. This is how sports fans react. Charger fans loved Marty, then they hated Marty, now they wish Marty could coach again.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 21, 2016 23:21:20 GMT -8
Oh "supreme one" you pick the lamest ass points to take task with. Without doing the research to refute said post I guess it is your ass with chapped "lips". Not doing the research for you... nor naming names to start another MR vs GA thread. PS- since PO's demise you'd miss a lot of the former complaints. Have a nice holiday 😊 I don't have to research or refute your points because you didn't make one that's refutable. You spouted trash and were called out. The slide down the sewer to name-calling is just more evidence you're completely full of crap on this topic. Attack me because you don't have any evidence to back up your point. Here's some advice: Only stick to stuff you know, otherwise you end up getting called out (which apparently you don't like). Don't use such a broad brush to paint a picture of people because you'll only go outside the lines. Lol... slide down what sewer? Name call? Didn't you yourself at one time have that or several similar monikers attached to your posting name? Humor on your part, but sewer work by others? So, several others are also full of crap? My last word on this ridiculous escalation.
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Post by jdogge on Dec 21, 2016 23:50:19 GMT -8
I don't have to research or refute your points because you didn't make one that's refutable. You spouted trash and were called out. The slide down the sewer to name-calling is just more evidence you're completely full of crap on this topic. Attack me because you don't have any evidence to back up your point. Here's some advice: Only stick to stuff you know, otherwise you end up getting called out (which apparently you don't like). Don't use such a broad brush to paint a picture of people because you'll only go outside the lines. Lol... slide down what sewer? Name call? Didn't you yourself at one time have that or several similar monikers attached to your posting name? Humor on your part, but sewer work by others? So, several others are also full of crap? My last word on this ridiculous escalation. Promise?
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Post by biggieorange on Dec 22, 2016 8:08:31 GMT -8
He and his staff looks to be turning the corner, at least in JUCO recruits which is something that Riley NEVER embraced, (he wanted 4 year guys) but I think was a huge part of why the OLINE and LB had 3 year stretches were they really sucked. Hmmm, I've seen this Riley never embraced JUCO recruits claim bantied about in the past and never quite understood it. Andersen has three so far this year, had 6 last year. Riley had 5 in '04, 6 in '05, 8 in '06, 6 in '07, 6 in'08, 5 in '13 and 4 in '14. I could only find one year in his tenure he didn't have a signed recruit with the word "college" in his school. He did have a stretch in the middle of his tenure of 4 years that he took 2 or fewer, and I suspect his goal was to get to where he only needed to take high school kids. It'll be curious to see if Andersen shoots to "embrace" JUCOs forever of it it is need based. Well this is only my interpretation, but the mid part where he only took 2 was a push to only get 4 year HS kids, --it failed. The defenses particularly were very spotty and yearly even when they were looking pretty good were very thin. Any injury anywhere let to a huge drop off. 2013 and 2014 was a bit of desperation on the part of the staff IMHO. The defense was falling apart as was the OLINE and they took a lot of risks that did not pan out. Another issue is that Riley really struggled to get the Simi Kuli's of the world actually into school, I'm interested if Andersen has any more luck.
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Post by atownbeaver on Dec 22, 2016 10:21:24 GMT -8
He and his staff looks to be turning the corner, at least in JUCO recruits which is something that Riley NEVER embraced, (he wanted 4 year guys) but I think was a huge part of why the OLINE and LB had 3 year stretches were they really sucked. Hmmm, I've seen this Riley never embraced JUCO recruits claim bantied about in the past and never quite understood it. Andersen has three so far this year, had 6 last year. Riley had 5 in '04, 6 in '05, 8 in '06, 6 in '07, 6 in'08, 5 in '13 and 4 in '14. I could only find one year in his tenure he didn't have a signed recruit with the word "college" in his school. He did have a stretch in the middle of his tenure of 4 years that he took 2 or fewer, and I suspect his goal was to get to where he only needed to take high school kids. It'll be curious to see if Andersen shoots to "embrace" JUCOs forever of it it is need based. I am always fairly amused at revisionist history that is at work here. It is what you get when you are excited about a new person and maybe had bad feelings about the old person. And maybe that 2009,10,11 and 12 run with few JUCOs did him in not favors and told the story. I think if you look back at where Riley had built OSU to 2008, on the door step of the Rose Bowl. it made sense he was trying really hard to put OSU into "dynasty" mode. an ongoing machine of new, developed and game ready talent ready to step in and give it 2 or 3 quality starting years. It blew up on him because the recruiting quality plummeted at the same time there in 2009, 2010 and a little bit of 2011 before it took off again. I was looking up something else and noticed something. Currently Riley has the following Ex beaver players working for him as coaches or assistants: Trent Bray Tavita Thompson Roman Sapolu Ryan Gunderson Malcom Agnew Keaton Kristick Micheal Phillipps James Rodgers Just thought that was interesting. He certainly does his guys solids, that is for sure.
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 22, 2016 13:28:23 GMT -8
Hmmm, I've seen this Riley never embraced JUCO recruits claim bantied about in the past and never quite understood it. Andersen has three so far this year, had 6 last year. Riley had 5 in '04, 6 in '05, 8 in '06, 6 in '07, 6 in'08, 5 in '13 and 4 in '14. I could only find one year in his tenure he didn't have a signed recruit with the word "college" in his school. He did have a stretch in the middle of his tenure of 4 years that he took 2 or fewer, and I suspect his goal was to get to where he only needed to take high school kids. It'll be curious to see if Andersen shoots to "embrace" JUCOs forever of it it is need based. I am always fairly amused at revisionist history that is at work here. It is what you get when you are excited about a new person and maybe had bad feelings about the old person. And maybe that 2009,10,11 and 12 run with few JUCOs did him in not favors and told the story. I think if you look back at where Riley had built OSU to 2008, on the door step of the Rose Bowl. it made sense he was trying really hard to put OSU into "dynasty" mode. an ongoing machine of new, developed and game ready talent ready to step in and give it 2 or 3 quality starting years. It blew up on him because the recruiting quality plummeted at the same time there in 2009, 2010 and a little bit of 2011 before it took off again. I was looking up something else and noticed something. Currently Riley has the following Ex beaver players working for him as coaches or assistants: Trent Bray Tavita Thompson Roman Sapolu Ryan Gunderson Malcom Agnew Keaton Kristick Micheal Phillipps James Rodgers Just thought that was interesting. He certainly does his guys solids, that is for sure. Riley always said that the football team was family, and that was rarely an exaggeration. He seems to try and go out of his way to make sure that his kids are taken care of.
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