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Post by biggieorange on Dec 21, 2016 7:56:56 GMT -8
SOP for a 1 year contract extension heading into year 3 of a 3 year deal. Hey the contract is running out, gotta do something. But another 4 years seems like big ink. I think this is part of the big problem in college football. Fear of losing a potentially winning coach forces a premature extension, then maybe later after actual success another one. Years later things deteriorate for whatever reason. Now the school is saddled with a huge buyout it can't afford to make a change. Bad business. And although I like him, make no mistake that the football program has not been successful in the last two years, whatever the reason. I don't think OSU fears someone poaching him as much as the bad talk folks like the Ducks/Cougs/Utes/Bears saying that "GA's contract will run out before you graduate kid".
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Post by atownbeaver on Dec 21, 2016 8:04:19 GMT -8
I think this is part of the big problem in college football. Fear of losing a potentially winning coach forces a premature extension, then maybe later after actual success another one. Years later things deteriorate for whatever reason. Now the school is saddled with a huge buyout it can't afford to make a change. Bad business. And although I like him, make no mistake that the football program has not been successful in the last two years, whatever the reason. I don't think OSU fears someone poaching him as much as the bad talk folks like the Ducks/Cougs/Utes/Bears saying that "GA's contract will run out before you graduate kid". This is a good perspective. When you are trying to build something, the administration needs to help. Help can be a simple sign that you are behind coach 100%. Hitting the recruiting trail with a new extension in the news when recruits google the program isn't going to hurt. and as we all know, contracts are basically imaginary in college football coaching.
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Post by beavs6 on Dec 21, 2016 8:21:47 GMT -8
What I like is that this was done by President Ray. He now has skin in the game regarding football. The dark days of the 70's-late 90's will NOT be repeated. When the University President buys in with ahtletics/football, it is good for all of us as fans.
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Post by gzrbvr on Dec 21, 2016 8:47:41 GMT -8
I just find it funny that those who thought automatic extensions for bowling was ridiculous now find a CW win and 4-8 / 6-18 worthy. Expecially when the extra year is worth two of the previous extensions in terms of $ not counting if any assts $ are involved. Considering the energy it took to pull the program out of a deep dive and at least get it to a slow climb, I think the decision to extend GA"s contract is understandable. When was the last time any of us watched the complete Civil War game three times on replay in less than a month? It has been a long time for this GZR and I will probably watch it a couple more times over the holidays.
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Post by Werebeaver on Dec 21, 2016 9:11:38 GMT -8
He should see a doctor if it lasts longer than 4 hours.
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Post by bill82 on Dec 21, 2016 10:20:19 GMT -8
SOP for a 1 year contract extension heading into year 3 of a 3 year deal. Hey the contract is running out, gotta do something. But another 4 years seems like big ink. I think this is part of the big problem in college football. Fear of losing a potentially winning coach forces a premature extension, then maybe later after actual success another one. Years later things deteriorate for whatever reason. Now the school is saddled with a huge buyout it can't afford to make a change. Bad business. And although I like him, make no mistake that the football program has not been successful in the last two years, whatever the reason. GA next step up after Oregon State would be to a school that can buy out any contract we sign. Therefore, we are not adding any security to OSU football, we are just adding a potential liability. Makes no sense to me.
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Post by TheGlove on Dec 21, 2016 10:25:08 GMT -8
Who are these people you are referring to? Lets just say that a few on this site alone are in that group. Only in your head.
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Post by atownbeaver on Dec 21, 2016 10:40:39 GMT -8
Lets just say that a few on this site alone are in that group. Only in your head. This is not a pee-pee match I want to be in per se, but I am just going to offer there was frequent criticism of the Riley contract and the automatic extension from a number of people. particularly when things were not going great for us. Are those exact people here praising this extension? I have no idea. but to deny that many people had their panties in a twist over the "lifetime" contract for Riley would be not be accurate.
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Post by beavsaregood on Dec 21, 2016 10:45:30 GMT -8
Hahaha!!!!!!! I don't know what to say other than he's got 2 more years with me. I hope he builds something here.
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Post by TheGlove on Dec 21, 2016 10:54:16 GMT -8
Are those exact people here praising this extension? I have no idea. And neither does anyone else. That's the point. I'm calling out baseba1111 on his BS statement.
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Post by beaverbeliever on Dec 21, 2016 11:49:19 GMT -8
The 4 wins included a Civil War win. There would have been much less grousing about minor bowl game extensions had those seasons included victories over THOSE people.
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Post by jimbeav on Dec 21, 2016 12:51:58 GMT -8
Hmm, maybe that's where we screwed up. Riley's contract should have been structured to be automatically renewed when he got to a bowl game AND beat the ducks.
Ya know, I'm not sure that I have a problem with that... =)
GO BEAVS!
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Post by nforkbeav on Dec 21, 2016 13:39:06 GMT -8
The 4 wins included a Civil War win. There would have been much less grousing about minor bowl game extensions had those seasons included victories over THOSE people. That's really it in a nutshell. Losing to the ducks tarnished anything done prior in the eyes of many. Doesn't matter he faced the ducks during their all time height of success compared to the 2 win duck team we beat this year. There are many among us who are more satisfied with a poor to mediocre season if it includes a CW win, than an 8 or 9 win season if it includes a CW loss. I think that would change some if the CW game wasn't played at the end of the season. If it came earlier in the year with time to win more games and move on it wouldn't be the lasting memory at the end of the season it is now and have a lessor impact on how the season is viewed by the fans.
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Post by kersting13 on Dec 21, 2016 13:44:19 GMT -8
The 4 wins included a Civil War win. There would have been much less grousing about minor bowl game extensions had those seasons included victories over THOSE people. That's really it in a nutshell. Losing to the ducks tarnished anything done prior in the eyes of many. Doesn't matter he faced the ducks during their all time height of success compared to the 2 win duck team we beat this year. There are many among us who are more satisfied with a poor to mediocre season if it includes a CW win, than an 8 or 9 win season if it includes a CW loss. I think that would change some if the CW game wasn't played at the end of the season. If it came earlier in the year with time to win more games and move on it wouldn't be the lasting memory at the end of the season it is now and have a lessor impact on how the season is viewed by the fans. It's true that Beaver fans AND Andersen are getting a lot of mileage out of beating the worst *uck team in over 20 years.
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 21, 2016 15:45:02 GMT -8
I don't think OSU fears someone poaching him as much as the bad talk folks like the Ducks/Cougs/Utes/Bears saying that "GA's contract will run out before you graduate kid". This is a good perspective. When you are trying to build something, the administration needs to help. Help can be a simple sign that you are behind coach 100%. Hitting the recruiting trail with a new extension in the news when recruits google the program isn't going to hurt. and as we all know, contracts are basically imaginary in college football coaching. "and as we all know, contracts are basically imaginary in college football coaching." Until your school has to pay the buy out. Then they become very real.
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