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Post by nforkbeav on Dec 19, 2016 10:53:02 GMT -8
Watching San Diego State dominate Houston in the Vegas bowl made me wonder where they would have placed in the Pac 12. They have a great defense, the nations yardage leader at running back with 2,133 yards, and a backup who rushed for over 1,000 yards too.
National rank:
Total D
10. SDSU
11. UW
Sacks
9. Utah
15. SDSU
Interceptions
1. SDSU 26 with 5 TD's
4. UW 19 with 2 TD's
Rushing D
6. SDSU
18. UW
Rushing O
7. SDSU
23. UfoA (Arizona led the conference in rushing offense and went 1-8 hmm...)
With back to back conference championships and 3 overall since 2011, former OSU DC, Rocky Long, has really put together a solid program at SDSU.
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Post by justdamwin on Dec 19, 2016 11:28:57 GMT -8
Good for Rocky Long, I'm glad to see it.
SDSU would be competitive in the Pac12. Probably not a north or south Champion but certainly not bottom feeders.
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Post by atownbeaver on Dec 19, 2016 11:42:04 GMT -8
Watching San Diego State dominate Houston in the Vegas bowl made me wonder where they would have placed in the Pac 12. They have a great defense, the nations yardage leader at running back with 2,133 yards, and a backup who rushed for over 1,000 yards too. National rank: Total D 10. SDSU 11. UW Sacks 9. Utah 15. SDSU Interceptions 1. SDSU 26 with 5 TD's 4. UW 19 with 2 TD's Rushing D 6. SDSU 18. UW Rushing O 7. SDSU 23. UfoA (Arizona led the conference in rushing offense and went 1-8 hmm...) With back to back conference championships and 3 overall since 2011, former OSU DC, Rocky Long, has really put together a solid program at SDSU. It is hard to say because of overall SOS. how would SDSU hold up to a full Pac-12 slate? what kind of depth do they have when they get an inveitable injury or two more than what the MWC gave them But with some luck on that department, I bet they could of had an overall winning record maybe. |
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 19, 2016 12:14:01 GMT -8
Watching San Diego State dominate Houston in the Vegas bowl made me wonder where they would have placed in the Pac 12. They have a great defense, the nations yardage leader at running back with 2,133 yards, and a backup who rushed for over 1,000 yards too. National rank: Total D 10. SDSU 11. UW Sacks 9. Utah 15. SDSU Interceptions 1. SDSU 26 with 5 TD's 4. UW 19 with 2 TD's Rushing D 6. SDSU 18. UW Rushing O 7. SDSU 23. UfoA (Arizona led the conference in rushing offense and went 1-8 hmm...) With back to back conference championships and 3 overall since 2011, former OSU DC, Rocky Long, has really put together a solid program at SDSU. It is hard to say because of overall SOS. how would SDSU hold up to a full Pac-12 slate? what kind of depth do they have when they get an inveitable injury or two more than what the MWC gave them But with some luck on that department, I bet they could of had an overall winning record maybe. This is really an incomplete hypothetical. What are we looking at here? Is SDSU replacing a Pac-12 team, and, if so, which one? Or is this a new 13-team league? The Aztecs' depth would have been tested, but, if they stayed healthy they probably would have finished in the seemingly wide chasm between the bowl teams and the non-bowl teams. Whether that is 3-6 and no bowl or 5-4 and a berth in the Las Vegas Bowl against Houston (or a Mountain West team), we can discuss, I suppose. |
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Post by lebaneaver on Dec 19, 2016 12:34:08 GMT -8
SDSU could/may be a sleeping giant. Talent rich recruiting pool. Urban setting. OK academics. For years they have played their home games in Mission Valley at Qualcomm (San Diego Stadium, Jack Murphy Stadium), just a few miles west of campus. IF (and it looks like it WILL happen) the Chargers move to LA, Qualcomm is GONE. Fini. Destroyed to build luxury condos, office space, restaurants, light industrial, etc., etc., etc. The land and potential, because of WHERE it is located is worth billions and billions. That would force the school (state, fan base, donors, etc.) to BUILD a new stadium. Not easy, or cheap. In 2009, the university and the Viejas Indian tribe agreed to a partnership RENAMING the Cox Arena (built in '97), on campus, for around six million over ten years. Very nice arena. go.sdsu.edu/sdsu_newscenter/news_story.aspx?sid=71078 Something like that MAY have to happen. Many, many moons ago the Aztecs played in the "Aztec Bowl" right on campus on Montezuma. I played my Pop Warner jamboree games there. Just a concrete bowl. Would NEVER fly today. We shall see. |
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Post by gobeavs92 on Dec 19, 2016 12:44:58 GMT -8
Long is a good coach and the 3-5 is a great scheme when you have the personnel but SDSU would have been around the middle of the PAC this season IMO. Yes they had a great record but their schedule is very soft! But this season was a down year for the PAC 12 overall so what does that mean? I think Pumphrey (sp) is obviously talented but he was the mainstay of the offense (everything revolved around him), the defense was aggressive and made a lot of plays but again, versus inferior talent. Even Houston was a major disappointment this season and didn't offer much in the way of a great opponent. I think the overall strength and depth of the PAC 12 teams would be too much week in and week out for the Aztecs to be in the upper half (record wise) in the PAC. Probably 5 to 7 wins. Who knows though?
Go Beavs!
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Post by nabeav on Dec 19, 2016 16:53:36 GMT -8
Next year's non-con opponent CSU manandled the Aztecs by 30 points in San Diego. How would CSU do in the P12?
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Post by beavsaregood on Dec 19, 2016 17:25:29 GMT -8
How would Texas do in the Pac-12?
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Post by treasurevalleybeav on Dec 19, 2016 18:44:59 GMT -8
In all of these interesting hypotheticals remember they'd GET access to better talent/depth in recruiting if they were in our conference. Ya all think we'd get the same access to talent if our beavs were in the MWC?
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Post by wilkyisdashiznit on Dec 19, 2016 22:37:12 GMT -8
Next year's non-con opponent CSU manandled the Aztecs by 30 points in San Diego. How would CSU do in the P12? The game was singularly Colorado State's best game. It was the Rams' last game of the regular season (and not the Aztecs), and the Rams treated the game like a rivalry game. San Diego State was a better team most weeks, just not that day. Colorado State actually played three common opponents with Oregon State, faring better against Boise State and Colorado and losing by seven on the road to Minnesota, just like Oregon State. |
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Post by sagebrush on Dec 20, 2016 1:51:38 GMT -8
Their mascot would never be allowed at either Reser or Autzen. Arrests and protests would be sure to follow.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Dec 20, 2016 5:14:26 GMT -8
It is hard to say because of overall SOS. how would SDSU hold up to a full Pac-12 slate? what kind of depth do they have when they get an inveitable injury or two more than what the MWC gave them But with some luck on that department, I bet they could of had an overall winning record maybe. This is really an incomplete hypothetical. What are we looking at here? Is SDSU replacing a Pac-12 team, and, if so, which one? Or is this a new 13-team league? The Aztecs' depth would have been tested, but, if they stayed healthy they probably would have finished in the seemingly wide chasm between the bowl teams and the non-bowl teams. Whether that is 3-6 and no bowl or 5-4 and a berth in the Las Vegas Bowl against Houston (or a Mountain West team), we can discuss, I suppose. Yep Wilky you are spot on. I'm an SDSU graduate and love the heart and soul of this team and Rocky Long, but put them in the Pac 12 and they are at best a 4 or 5 win team. They depth issue, the weekly grind, even playing against a bad team like Oregon in Autzen is 55,000, not 20,000 in Reno. It lost 3 games it should have never lost just as it is. |
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Post by RenoBeaver on Dec 20, 2016 5:15:34 GMT -8
In all of these interesting hypotheticals remember they'd GET access to better talent/depth in recruiting if they were in our conference. Ya all think we'd get the same access to talent if our beavs were in the MWC? But that's not the question. The question is how would SDSU's team, this year, have done in the P12, this year. |
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Post by beaverbeliever on Dec 20, 2016 11:19:36 GMT -8
This year's SDSU squad lost 42-24 at South Alabama. 6-6 South Alabama. SDSU is a solid team, but I doubt they'd have had any more conference success than OSU.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Dec 20, 2016 11:38:33 GMT -8
This year's SDSU squad lost 42-24 at South Alabama. 6-6 South Alabama. SDSU is a solid team, but I doubt they'd have had any more conference success than OSU. I hate these silly comparisons. Sometimes good teams lose to not so good teams. Besides, South Alabama also beat Mississippi State and are playing in a bowl game. So you might want to lower your standards. |
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