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Vs. UP
Dec 18, 2016 15:58:42 GMT -8
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 18, 2016 15:58:42 GMT -8
Hmmmmmm... have expectations sunk so low that being tied at the half @ 22 while shooting 27% and getting out boarded 18-9 by a UP team who has beaten no one of consequence... is a good thing?
Sadly this will be the weakest interior post presence we will see... length, but none athletic, and weak... and we still have no interior offense. Drew and company are just weak and offensively limited thus far. Still having issues keeping a dribbler in front of us as 14 of their 22 are points in the paint on dribble penetrations by G and F.
So you stat people... when is the last time an OSU men's hoop team started 4-9 or 3-10?
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rafer
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Post by rafer on Dec 18, 2016 16:33:51 GMT -8
Incredibly hard to watch, UP is terrible and we are so undisciplined as to make them look fair! Manuel, can't hit the backboard even, Stevie, tow turnovers by himself on fast breaks, Starks ??, Sanders, can't shoot a lick, can't shoot FTs at all, we have nothing going other than JM, and now they are running away with it. Just can't watch this level of ineptitude anymore today. Hope they come back but that would be a major miracle. We are just too terrible and making UP which are NOT any good, look like world beaters. Done!!
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Post by zebraworks on Dec 18, 2016 16:44:13 GMT -8
if they are that bad a shooting the ball it really means that tinkle and co. are super bad evaluators of talent. This is so disappointing after starting out with promise with existing players and walk-ons.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 18, 2016 16:45:02 GMT -8
Incredibly hard to watch, UP is terrible and we are so undisciplined as to make them look fair! Manuel, can't hit the backboard even, Stevie, tow turnovers by himself on fast breaks, Starks ??, Sanders, can't shoot a lick, can't shoot FTs at all, we have nothing going other than JM, and now they are running away with it. Just can't watch this level of ineptitude anymore today. Hope they come back but that would be a major miracle. We are just too terrible and making UP which are NOT any good, look like world beaters. Done!! I will say TP can coach. Not much talent on UP but they run their stuff. With no bigs to speak of that can play a lick, they set good picks, block out decently, and play decent D. And those "bigs" of UP out played and dominated ours. Now 37-20 deficient on the boards... down 22-12 points in paint... 0 bench points. "Hold" a team to 38% shooting, force then into twice the to's, only down 2 on threes... in bonus at 12min mark... and down double digits. And... only that close because the true Frosh has 23 of the 41 currently on the score board. Sorry... this isn't JUST talent level!! |
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Vs. UP
Dec 18, 2016 16:58:20 GMT -8
Post by rafer on Dec 18, 2016 16:58:20 GMT -8
NO words, we are a terrible team, if not the worst in D1, certainly in the bottom 10. Terribly frustrating and depressing to watch an OSU team that is just plain bad at all levels, especially, but not limited to shooting, wow, that is just hard to watch the bricks being laid. UGLY!!! I don't see another win this season. Hope to hell I'm wrong!
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Post by blastingsand on Dec 18, 2016 17:09:57 GMT -8
The team is TRAGICALLY bad, it's unbelievable. Especially with the experience and talent level among them. Even with a couple of injured players, everyone else should be playing much higher than the competition we have faced so far. I'm starting to wonder if the "entitlement" has gone through their heads after last year's season.
I spoke with a couple of students involved with the team. They hinted of coaches favoring their sons over other players. Not sure to what extent or even what regard, but we have no idea of even verifying this.
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Vs. UP
Dec 18, 2016 17:17:28 GMT -8
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Post by beaverale on Dec 18, 2016 17:17:28 GMT -8
The team is TRAGICALLY bad, it's unbelievable. Especially with the experience and talent level among them. Even with a couple of injured players, everyone else should be playing much higher than the competition we have faced so far. I'm starting to wonder if the "entitlement" has gone through their heads after last year's season. I spoke with a couple of students involved with the team. They hinted of coaches favoring their sons over other players. Not sure to what extent or even what regard, but we have no idea of even verifying this. Wouldn't surprise me. Could be one of the multiple reasons why Bruce transferred. Must be tough not getting more minutes than a coach's son even if you are better than him. |
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Post by fridaynightlights on Dec 18, 2016 17:20:22 GMT -8
Talent??? what talent.... I just don't see it. Of the 4 best players on the team. McLaughlin, Thompson and Eubanks are backups at most other schools in the league. I think Tinkle could start at a number of other conference schools and would be more effective as he wouldn't feel the need to force his offense as much. The rest of the roster would be at the end of the bench of other schools or not on the roster at all. They may want to shake up the assistants after this season to see if they can find some more recruiting juice because the recruiting so far just doesn't cut it.
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Dec 18, 2016 17:37:31 GMT -8
Post by steinlager on Dec 18, 2016 17:37:31 GMT -8
Another disappointing loss in a season filled with them. No easy answers to fix a multitude of problems. Not much team ball but lots of one- on- one hero ball being played. Tinkle is going to have to coach his ass off to keep the team from completely falling apart.
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Vs. UP
Dec 19, 2016 10:15:21 GMT -8
Post by rafer on Dec 19, 2016 10:15:21 GMT -8
I think the falling apart already happened, I don't see us getting better anytime soon, if ever given the talent, coaching, and lack of confidence by all parties. I still think WT can coach, but he clearly isn't getting it done right now. Again, they seem totally lost on the court and continually leave someone WIDE open for a three or a drive to the hoop, CONTINUALLY!! Find your man, cover the edges, and keep your guy in front of you, the concept isn't that friggin hard boyz! They get beat on the back side at an alarming rate, sleeping, lazy, or coaching, which is it??
Maybe WT is trying to get them to do too many things, simplify what your doing maybe, hell, I'd be willing to try anything at this point.
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Post by kvgeorge on Dec 19, 2016 12:57:56 GMT -8
The team is TRAGICALLY bad, it's unbelievable. Especially with the experience and talent level among them. Even with a couple of injured players, everyone else should be playing much higher than the competition we have faced so far. I'm starting to wonder if the "entitlement" has gone through their heads after last year's season. I spoke with a couple of students involved with the team. They hinted of coaches favoring their sons over other players. Not sure to what extent or even what regard, but we have no idea of even verifying this. I was wondering how long it would take before some poster would play the "undisclosed students/players say" card! Sir you know jack about what is happening inside this team or any other team for that matter. So unless you happen to be a player and want to identify yourself please let this crap rest. Are there problems with "team chemistry" yes, the coach has said so publicly but that does not mean players disliking players, players being favored over others or infighting among players. It means that as a team they have not jelled playing together. They do not instinctively know where or when a team mate is going to be in the right place. They are not trusting themselves as players most likely out of fear, nor do they trust their teammates enough to let go of the fear of screwing up on the court. Why are they looking at the coaches? Because they are looking for someone to lead them. That player is currently not available and for now coaches cannot step in and play. What builds trust in a team? Time, hard work and effective communication. Two of those things are currently missing, time and effective communication. Not one person has questioned the players work ethic. This is a very young team, in a very different game, playing without their arguably their best player and team leader. So give it a break. It's going to be a long ugly year. Yeah we've all heard wait until next year more than enough but the future is still bright, I still love this team, and we will get better as the season progresses. |
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Dec 19, 2016 15:54:37 GMT -8
Post by baseba1111 on Dec 19, 2016 15:54:37 GMT -8
The team is TRAGICALLY bad, it's unbelievable. Especially with the experience and talent level among them. Even with a couple of injured players, everyone else should be playing much higher than the competition we have faced so far. I'm starting to wonder if the "entitlement" has gone through their heads after last year's season. I spoke with a couple of students involved with the team. They hinted of coaches favoring their sons over other players. Not sure to what extent or even what regard, but we have no idea of even verifying this. I was wondering how long it would take before some poster would play the "undisclosed students/players say" card! Sir you know jack about what is happening inside this team or any other team for that matter. So unless you happen to be a player and want to identify yourself please let this crap rest. Are there problems with "team chemistry" yes, the coach has said so publicly but that does not mean players disliking players, players being favored over others or infighting among players. It means that as a team they have not jelled playing together. They do not instinctively know where or when a team mate is going to be in the right place. They are not trusting themselves as players most likely out of fear, nor do they trust their teammates enough to let go of the fear of screwing up on the court. Why are they looking at the coaches? Because they are looking for someone to lead them. That player is currently not available and for now coaches cannot step in and play. What builds trust in a team? Time, hard work and effective communication. Two of those things are currently missing, time and effective communication. Not one person has questioned the players work ethic. This is a very young team, in a very different game, playing without their arguably their best player and team leader. So give it a break. It's going to be a long ugly year. Yeah we've all heard wait until next year more than enough but the future is still bright, I still love this team, and we will get better as the season progresses. In truth you have no idea what he does or does not know, or was told in confidence. So in essence it really is you that does not know "jack", and in the case "blasting sand". Put the high and mighty aside for a while... it's a message board. |
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Post by kvgeorge on Dec 19, 2016 18:16:05 GMT -8
In truth you have no idea what he does or does not know, or was told in confidence. Nor do you, Mr. "Wisky fans are saying." If it cannot be said publicly then it is not worth repeating as reputable. The point is, quoting unnamed sources lends no credibility to your point. The fact you put it in there to lend credibility weakens your argument. State you opinion and leave it as such. |
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Post by blastingsand on Dec 20, 2016 13:57:30 GMT -8
The team is TRAGICALLY bad, it's unbelievable. Especially with the experience and talent level among them. Even with a couple of injured players, everyone else should be playing much higher than the competition we have faced so far. I'm starting to wonder if the "entitlement" has gone through their heads after last year's season. I spoke with a couple of students involved with the team. They hinted of coaches favoring their sons over other players. Not sure to what extent or even what regard, but we have no idea of even verifying this. I was wondering how long it would take before some poster would play the "undisclosed students/players say" card! Sir you know jack about what is happening inside this team or any other team for that matter. So unless you happen to be a player and want to identify yourself please let this crap rest. Are there problems with "team chemistry" yes, the coach has said so publicly but that does not mean players disliking players, players being favored over others or infighting among players. It means that as a team they have not jelled playing together. They do not instinctively know where or when a team mate is going to be in the right place. They are not trusting themselves as players most likely out of fear, nor do they trust their teammates enough to let go of the fear of screwing up on the court. Why are they looking at the coaches? Because they are looking for someone to lead them. That player is currently not available and for now coaches cannot step in and play. What builds trust in a team? Time, hard work and effective communication. Two of those things are currently missing, time and effective communication. Not one person has questioned the players work ethic. This is a very young team, in a very different game, playing without their arguably their best player and team leader. So give it a break. It's going to be a long ugly year. Yeah we've all heard wait until next year more than enough but the future is still bright, I still love this team, and we will get better as the season progresses. What an a-hole response by this guy. I just what I heard and suddenly it's direct personal hit. I even said at the end I can't verify weather or not these were true, but it's something to at least share. |
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Vs. UP
Dec 20, 2016 18:00:34 GMT -8
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 20, 2016 18:00:34 GMT -8
Without seeing the content... block idiotic babble... my bet it's about a poster and has no content about OSU, the hoops team, players, or coaches.
Maybe Santa brings a couple guys the "straw man" gift!
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