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Post by beavs6 on Dec 8, 2016 8:09:41 GMT -8
Any news or hints of what has been going on? I know the coaches have been out an the trail, as it were. Might be more of a hold on to what we've got, hope to add a JC or two (come on AZ), and hope for a positive surprise addition or two in Feb.
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Post by hof99 on Dec 8, 2016 9:43:27 GMT -8
I am 'hoping' that GA and crew are playing it a little quiet to avoid some last minute poaching, by bringing attention to some of their hidden gems. I know there will be a couple of surprises both directions, that is a constant.
I hope the recruits see how quickly GA has brought toughness back in the program and that they realize, if they want to play at the next level, that is an NFL necessity.
Seems to me that the duck PR ( promo requirement ), is cranking up the same positives about Willie that they used to amp up their 'wise beyond all measures' decision about helfrich at the time. This, to me, is another example of overpromising and underdelivering (4th choice in process HAS to be sold to the fan base). They KNOW they did not hit a home run, so just PRETEND that it was anyway.
Personally, I think it is a huge risk - but they were running out of time.
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Post by ochobeavo on Dec 8, 2016 10:01:52 GMT -8
Based on social media, the coaches are definitely working hard to keep our current commits on board. I think the only one at-risk right now would be Isaiah Miller, the RB from Florida. He just tripped to Missouri and they also offered him that weekend.
I'm pretty sure we enter the dead period next week so nothing in the way of official or in-home visits until January.
-Nixon and Evans are supposed to decide next week after their final visits.
-Rahyme Johnson is taking a trip to Florida in January, so I don't expect a decision there.
-Jamire Calvin took a trip to WSU last week, I think he's announcing after the Under Armour game. WSU just lost one of their WR coaches as well to Purdue...
-Beavs had an in-home visit with 3* Sacramento Safety Trajon Cotton. Has something like 20 offers - Nebraska, UCLA, BYU, ASU, Colorado. Was thought to be lean to Oregon but has stated that with Helfrich gone they are no longer in the mix.
- Daniel Green - no idea where we stand, but seemed to be top 5 before he picked USC last spring.
But right now -
Defense: Absolutely need that DT, need another LB, maybe 2, definitely need a safety. We have the JC CB Lane on board, so Nixon isn't a must, but sure would like to have him. Can't have enough depth at CB anymore.
Offense: A plan B if Miller goes elsewhere at RB. A TE assuming we actually still want to use one and another JC lineman please.
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Post by beaverintheberg on Dec 8, 2016 10:23:20 GMT -8
I think added to all of this is not knowing who may be exiting the program.
I'm feeling really good about the recruiting overall and have faith we're holding our own on the trail.
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Post by beavs6 on Dec 8, 2016 11:43:41 GMT -8
Based on social media, the coaches are definitely working hard to keep our current commits on board. I think the only one at-risk right now would be Isaiah Miller, the RB from Florida. He just tripped to Missouri and they also offered him that weekend. I'm pretty sure we enter the dead period next week so nothing in the way of official or in-home visits until January. -Nixon and Evans are supposed to decide next week after their final visits. -Rahyme Johnson is taking a trip to Florida in January, so I don't expect a decision there. -Jamire Calvin took a trip to WSU last week, I think he's announcing after the Under Armour game. WSU just lost one of their WR coaches as well to Purdue... -Beavs had an in-home visit with 3* Sacramento Safety Trajon Cotton. Has something like 20 offers - Nebraska, UCLA, BYU, ASU, Colorado. Was thought to be lean to Oregon but has stated that with Helfrich gone they are no longer in the mix. - Daniel Green - no idea where we stand, but seemed to be top 5 before he picked USC last spring. But right now - Defense: Absolutely need that DT, need another LB, maybe 2, definitely need a safety. We have the JC CB Lane on board, so Nixon isn't a must, but sure would like to have him. Can't have enough depth at CB anymore. Offense: A plan B if Miller goes elsewhere at RB. A TE assuming we actually still want to use one and another JC lineman please. Thanks ocho. Exactly the type of summary update I was hoping for. I agree...Evans is a top priority. For LB, is Green a possibility with his USC de-commit? Is he an academic casualty? My perception is he is more of an uck lean than anything, but that is just a gut feeling. |
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Post by kersting13 on Dec 8, 2016 23:37:12 GMT -8
I hope the recruits see how quickly GA has brought toughness back in the program and that they realize, if they want to play at the next level, that is an NFL necessity. I seriously doubt any recruits are saying to themselves "GA will make me tough enough for the NFL!" Just, no. |
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Post by hof99 on Dec 9, 2016 11:43:53 GMT -8
@kersting
'Toughness at the NFL level is something that non-players can barely understand, but it’s perhaps the No. 1 quality a player needs to even make it that far '. Direct quote - re: Scouting Reports
Maybe not for you..... but for anyone that analyzes these things.
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Post by hof99 on Dec 9, 2016 12:04:34 GMT -8
"Oregon State beat Oregon last Saturday because the Beavers were 'stronger and tougher'than the Ducks. Already, with OSU’s ascent in the Northern Division of the Pac-12, the Ducks, on a free fall, are underdogs for the 2017 Civil War."
Thousands of examples... point is, go to uo and you get softer, even if you are a higher 'rated' athlete. Get in the Anderson program and you will improve in the areas of strength and toughness.
You may not believe it, you may not agree with it .... but 'thousands of scouts and coaches do .
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 9, 2016 18:17:49 GMT -8
"Oregon State beat Oregon last Saturday because the Beavers were 'stronger and tougher'than the Ducks. Already, with OSU’s ascent in the Northern Division of the Pac-12, the Ducks, on a free fall, are underdogs for the 2017 Civil War." Thousands of examples... point is, go to uo and you get softer, even if you are a higher 'rated' athlete. Get in the Anderson program and you will improve in the areas of strength and toughness. You may not believe it, you may not agree with it .... but 'thousands of scouts and coaches do . Lmao... "thousands"? Really? Do you believe thousands of scouts and coaches are that? Do think there are thousands that even know enough of our program to really be a judge? And... if you're aware the "lay of the land", do you realize most of the crap written is just that, crap that is rehashed from others. Most TRUE scouts write reports for very specific purposes and actually have seen teams and players multiple times. The thousands you spesk of most likely have never stepped foot on campus. Secondly, recruits ALL expect to get bigger, faster, stronger, tougher... no matter where they play. It's college football not high school. As for who is favored in CW 2017... ya that is really a thing at this point. You can discount any "scout" that uses that as material. As a matter of reality, don't be surprised if OSU is picked 6th in the north by the coaches next year. Looking at this seasons wins, returners of all the teams I'm being ucks get benefit of the doubt because of the talent they have returning. Could easily be: UW Furd WSU ucks Cal OSU With bottom three in any order. |
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Post by hof99 on Dec 9, 2016 20:00:20 GMT -8
Pleased that you are getting your laughs.
Unfortunately, you do not seem to get the big picture. I am not just addressing football. I am also not talking about our program only, but hey, use your little mind any way that keeps a smile on your face.
Also, your duck love is showing through. Mr Braggert has a very weak resume and will have to produce or he will be sharing a job with hellfrick at KFC.
Yes, he has more tools to recruit with - but, he's now in the PAC-12 and the schedule is also going to be a lot rougher. The Tough teams will win - we will see how that plays out because you actually have to play the games - not speculate and anoint a winner before anyone steps on the field.
Scouts have a set of metrics for every sport at every position, they ALL indicate that mental and physical toughness are differentiating features in the evaluation of any player.
I prefer the Beavers defensive approach under Andersen , the Banker approach was depressing - our guys got soft and couldn't tackle and the DL couldn't stop the run or get to the QB. Didn't even try. I am happy where we are at and I am sure most real Beaver alums are as well. No need to reply, I am not amused by you missing the point or LMAO comments.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 9, 2016 21:53:46 GMT -8
Pleased that you are getting your laughs. Unfortunately, you do not seem to get the big picture. I am not just addressing football. I am also not talking about our program only, but hey, use your little mind any way that keeps a smile on your face. Also, your duck love is showing through. Mr Braggert has a very weak resume and will have to produce or he will be sharing a job with hellfrick at KFC. Yes, he has more tools to recruit with - but, he's now in the PAC-12 and the schedule is also going to be a lot rougher. The Tough teams will win - we will see how that plays out because you actually have to play the games - not speculate and anoint a winner before anyone steps on the field. Scouts have a set of metrics for every sport at every position, they ALL indicate that mental and physical toughness are differentiating features in the evaluation of any player. I prefer the Beavers defensive approach under Andersen , the Banker approach was depressing - our guys got soft and couldn't tackle and the DL couldn't stop the run or get to the QB. Didn't even try. I am happy where we are at and I am sure most real Beaver alums are as well. No need to reply, I am not amused by you missing the point or LMAO comments. You're right... no need! 😉 |
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Post by kersting13 on Dec 9, 2016 22:14:42 GMT -8
I prefer the Beavers defensive approach under Andersen , the Banker approach was depressing - our guys got soft and couldn't tackle and the DL couldn't stop the run or get to the QB. Uhh, did you watch the Beavers defense this year? The DL's ability to stop the run and get to the QB was - not good. I'm glad that you like CGA. I like CGA. I think he may eventually get us back to competitiveness. But, to pull out utter BS like how much "tougher" CGA is going to make guys, because that's what scouts look for? Come on, man. You can't even possibly believe that one. And to suggest that our DL is better at getting after the QB and playing the run? You need to get your eyes AND your memory checked. If there were two things this team could not do for sh!t last year, it was those. |
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