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Post by beavaristotle on Dec 2, 2016 21:41:35 GMT -8
be careful what you wish for , there is a whole graveyard full of teams that "wanted Bama"
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Post by snohobeav on Dec 3, 2016 0:48:35 GMT -8
be careful what you wish for , there is a whole graveyard full of teams that "wanted Bama" And a landfill full of green t shirts with that phrase on them.
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Post by beavadelic on Dec 3, 2016 5:38:20 GMT -8
be careful what you wish for , there is a whole graveyard full of teams that "wanted Bama" Assuming that the committee does the right thing (as opposed to following the thinking of that meathead Ohio St. alum and Big 10 honk Robert Smith, who would put 3 Big 10 teams in the playoff if he could) the Huskies will almost certainly get 'bama in the opening game of the playoff. While I feel like UW is 100% deserving of that opportunity, I see such a gap between the Tide and whomever they would select for the other 3 spots, that I'm almost certain this would be a double digit loss for the Huskies. Alabama is that scary combination of having a stable-full of ridiculous athletes, an anal and driven excellent coach and an uber-fanatical committment to football in everyone from the University President to Bob the plumber. Not that they can't be beaten - when Urban Meyer (arguably Saban's only rival on top of the college coaching world) took them out two years ago with nearly as many ridiculous athletes and overall support from everyone that nearly rivals 'bama, we saw it all come together in a way that very rarely does. UW has a coach who is definitely in that next grouping of 4 or 5 coaches after Saban, Meyer and the lunatic in Ann Arbor. In actual substance, Petersen is not that far removed from that group, IMO. He simply lacks the experience that the other three have at the highest level (Harbaugh could turn anyone into a winner in a short time, before wearing out his welcome!). I would personally love to see USC play the Tide right now. Helton seems to have gotten things settled, and Darnold is light years more dynamic than Max Browne. The Trojans are rolling, and their talent pool doesn't take a back seat to anyone - including Alabama (well, not by much). They will be fully recovered from the silly overkill of their sanctions soon, and be able to suit up 85 top-notch athletes again next fall. Nobody who follows college football with the remotest of impartiality doesn't believe that USC is a top 4 team at this point. Even given all of that, I still believe that the Tife would win by 3-7 points...they're that good. Of course, my PAC 12 bias would posit that the ACC was down this year. The supposed heavyweights along with Clemson - played a lot of mediocre football that included some bad losses sprinkled with big wins. As a result, I actually feel that UW should get the 3rd spot ahead of Clemson. Unfortunately, this is not likely. On the national stage, it would have to be USC with the exact same resume and position of the Huskies for the committee and media to make that move for certain. I do believe that UW is best suited to match up with the Tide, but their passing game would need more polish, because 'bama will stuff the run, and it takes a QB with great timing and accuracy, and some Houdini mixed in, throwing to multiple fast and athletic receivers, to do that. Unfortunately for UW, my description fits USC right now more closely than what I've seen from the Huskies passing game lately.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Dec 3, 2016 6:49:57 GMT -8
Bama will slaughter Washington.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 11:26:11 GMT -8
be careful what you wish for , there is a whole graveyard full of teams that "wanted Bama" Assuming that the committee does the right thing (as opposed to following the thinking of that meathead Ohio St. alum and Big 10 honk Robert Smith, who would put 3 Big 10 teams in the playoff if he could) the Huskies will almost certainly get 'bama in the opening game of the playoff. While I feel like UW is 100% deserving of that opportunity, I see such a gap between the Tide and whomever they would select for the other 3 spots, that I'm almost certain this would be a double digit loss for the Huskies. Alabama is that scary combination of having a stable-full of ridiculous athletes, an anal and driven excellent coach and an uber-fanatical committment to football in everyone from the University President to Bob the plumber. Not that they can't be beaten - when Urban Meyer (arguably Saban's only rival on top of the college coaching world) took them out two years ago with nearly as many ridiculous athletes and overall support from everyone that nearly rivals 'bama, we saw it all come together in a way that very rarely does. UW has a coach who is definitely in that next grouping of 4 or 5 coaches after Saban, Meyer and the lunatic in Ann Arbor. In actual substance, Petersen is not that far removed from that group, IMO. He simply lacks the experience that the other three have at the highest level (Harbaugh could turn anyone into a winner in a short time, before wearing out his welcome!). I would personally love to see USC play the Tide right now. Helton seems to have gotten things settled, and Darnold is light years more dynamic than Max Browne. The Trojans are rolling, and their talent pool doesn't take a back seat to anyone - including Alabama (well, not by much). They will be fully recovered from the silly overkill of their sanctions soon, and be able to suit up 85 top-notch athletes again next fall. Nobody who follows college football with the remotest of impartiality doesn't believe that USC is a top 4 team at this point. Even given all of that, I still believe that the Tife would win by 3-7 points...they're that good. Of course, my PAC 12 bias would posit that the ACC was down this year. The supposed heavyweights along with Clemson - played a lot of mediocre football that included some bad losses sprinkled with big wins. As a result, I actually feel that UW should get the 3rd spot ahead of Clemson. Unfortunately, this is not likely. On the national stage, it would have to be USC with the exact same resume and position of the Huskies for the committee and media to make that move for certain. I do believe that UW is best suited to match up with the Tide, but their passing game would need more polish, because 'bama will stuff the run, and it takes a QB with great timing and accuracy, and some Houdini mixed in, throwing to multiple fast and athletic receivers, to do that. Unfortunately for UW, my description fits USC right now more closely than what I've seen from the Huskies passing game lately. OJ Stabbin' Cabin message board is over that away--------->>>>>>>
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 11:40:01 GMT -8
be careful what you wish for , there is a whole graveyard full of teams that "wanted Bama" Assuming that the committee does the right thing (as opposed to following the thinking of that meathead Ohio St. alum and Big 10 honk Robert Smith, who would put 3 Big 10 teams in the playoff if he could) the Huskies will almost certainly get 'bama in the opening game of the playoff. While I feel like UW is 100% deserving of that opportunity, I see such a gap between the Tide and whomever they would select for the other 3 spots, that I'm almost certain this would be a double digit loss for the Huskies. Alabama is that scary combination of having a stable-full of ridiculous athletes, an anal and driven excellent coach and an uber-fanatical committment to football in everyone from the University President to Bob the plumber. Not that they can't be beaten - when Urban Meyer (arguably Saban's only rival on top of the college coaching world) took them out two years ago with nearly as many ridiculous athletes and overall support from everyone that nearly rivals 'bama, we saw it all come together in a way that very rarely does. UW has a coach who is definitely in that next grouping of 4 or 5 coaches after Saban, Meyer and the lunatic in Ann Arbor. In actual substance, Petersen is not that far removed from that group, IMO. He simply lacks the experience that the other three have at the highest level (Harbaugh could turn anyone into a winner in a short time, before wearing out his welcome!). I would personally love to see USC play the Tide right now. Helton seems to have gotten things settled, and Darnold is light years more dynamic than Max Browne. The Trojans are rolling, and their talent pool doesn't take a back seat to anyone - including Alabama (well, not by much). They will be fully recovered from the silly overkill of their sanctions soon, and be able to suit up 85 top-notch athletes again next fall. Nobody who follows college football with the remotest of impartiality doesn't believe that USC is a top 4 team at this point. Even given all of that, I still believe that the Tife would win by 3-7 points...they're that good. Of course, my PAC 12 bias would posit that the ACC was down this year. The supposed heavyweights along with Clemson - played a lot of mediocre football that included some bad losses sprinkled with big wins. As a result, I actually feel that UW should get the 3rd spot ahead of Clemson. Unfortunately, this is not likely. On the national stage, it would have to be USC with the exact same resume and position of the Huskies for the committee and media to make that move for certain. I do believe that UW is best suited to match up with the Tide, but their passing game would need more polish, because 'bama will stuff the run, and it takes a QB with great timing and accuracy, and some Houdini mixed in, throwing to multiple fast and athletic receivers, to do that. Unfortunately for UW, my description fits USC right now more closely than what I've seen from the Huskies passing game lately. Oh man- totally. Wouldn't it be awesome if your fantasy matchup between Bama and USC could happen this year? I wonder what would happen. Oh wait... www.espn.com/college-football/recap?gameId=400868969
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 11:50:40 GMT -8
Nobody who follows college football with the remotest of impartiality doesn't believe that USC is a top 4 team at this point. So you're saying every voting college football coach and member of the associated press who have them at #11/#10 right now are completely biased. Got it.
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Post by beavadelic on Dec 3, 2016 13:33:45 GMT -8
Assuming that the committee does the right thing (as opposed to following the thinking of that meathead Ohio St. alum and Big 10 honk Robert Smith, who would put 3 Big 10 teams in the playoff if he could) the Huskies will almost certainly get 'bama in the opening game of the playoff. While I feel like UW is 100% deserving of that opportunity, I see such a gap between the Tide and whomever they would select for the other 3 spots, that I'm almost certain this would be a double digit loss for the Huskies. Alabama is that scary combination of having a stable-full of ridiculous athletes, an anal and driven excellent coach and an uber-fanatical committment to football in everyone from the University President to Bob the plumber. Not that they can't be beaten - when Urban Meyer (arguably Saban's only rival on top of the college coaching world) took them out two years ago with nearly as many ridiculous athletes and overall support from everyone that nearly rivals 'bama, we saw it all come together in a way that very rarely does. UW has a coach who is definitely in that next grouping of 4 or 5 coaches after Saban, Meyer and the lunatic in Ann Arbor. In actual substance, Petersen is not that far removed from that group, IMO. He simply lacks the experience that the other three have at the highest level (Harbaugh could turn anyone into a winner in a short time, before wearing out his welcome!). I would personally love to see USC play the Tide right now. Helton seems to have gotten things settled, and Darnold is light years more dynamic than Max Browne. The Trojans are rolling, and their talent pool doesn't take a back seat to anyone - including Alabama (well, not by much). They will be fully recovered from the silly overkill of their sanctions soon, and be able to suit up 85 top-notch athletes again next fall. Nobody who follows college football with the remotest of impartiality doesn't believe that USC is a top 4 team at this point. Even given all of that, I still believe that the Tife would win by 3-7 points...they're that good. Of course, my PAC 12 bias would posit that the ACC was down this year. The supposed heavyweights along with Clemson - played a lot of mediocre football that included some bad losses sprinkled with big wins. As a result, I actually feel that UW should get the 3rd spot ahead of Clemson. Unfortunately, this is not likely. On the national stage, it would have to be USC with the exact same resume and position of the Huskies for the committee and media to make that move for certain. I do believe that UW is best suited to match up with the Tide, but their passing game would need more polish, because 'bama will stuff the run, and it takes a QB with great timing and accuracy, and some Houdini mixed in, throwing to multiple fast and athletic receivers, to do that. Unfortunately for UW, my description fits USC right now more closely than what I've seen from the Huskies passing game lately. Oh man- totally. Wouldn't it be awesome if your fantasy matchup between Bama and USC could happen this year? I wonder what would happen. Oh wait... www.espn.com/college-football/recap?gameId=400868969 [ Good one...so clever, and so up to date, because we all know that this is the same USC team we saw in September. Basing the present on what was going on 3 months ago, Hilary must have won the election easily. Instead of a statue at QB, the Trojans have a guy now who drives people crazy with his legs and his feet, and that's only the most obvious of many improvements in that team.
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 3, 2016 15:19:52 GMT -8
In a real sense tOSU not even being a division champ and not playing in a title game gives it a huge advantage the selection committee needs to change.
As the #2 rated team no game to possibly lose there is no way they'll drop out of the top four. However, UW and Clemson both have to win a game to stay in the playoff. The SEC crap has shifted north... #2 team not a division champ let alone a league champ.
In that scenario tOSU should at least be dropped to the #4 slot to have to face #1 seed and teams who actually won "playoff" game/titles rewarded with #2 and #3 seeds.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 16:21:02 GMT -8
gameId=400868969[/quote][
. Good one...so clever, and so up to date, because we all know that this is the same USC team we saw in September. Basing the present on what was going on 3 months ago, Hilary must have won the election easily.
Instead of a statue at QB, the Trojans have a guy now who drives people crazy with his legs and his feet, and that's only the most obvious of many improvements in that team.[/quote]
The polls that had Hilary winning the election in September were just that- polls, not an election. Unlike that bad analogy, there was an actual game played between SC and Bama in September, and it resulted in a 52-6 pasting of the Trojans.
Now, I agree with you that they're improved, but so is Bama- a team that started a true freshman at QB and was replacing a Heisman trophy winner on offense, and replacing 4 day 1 draft picks on defense in that game. C'mon, you really think the November Trojans would score 7 touchdowns on Bama when the September Trojan offense couldn't get 1?
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