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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 2, 2016 18:49:07 GMT -8
JS has really done zero in the coaching world to gain the eye of uncle Phil. JS has gone through the typical coaching progression but gets surprisingly little credit for Browning's or UW's success.
I know JS has a place in many Beaver fans hearts, but if the ucks want to hire an inexperienced guy to be their HC I'd not only find that surprising, but a best case scenario.
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Post by alwaysorange on Dec 2, 2016 18:51:21 GMT -8
I'd be shocked if the ducks brought in a coordinator without head coaching experience
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Post by spudbeaver on Dec 2, 2016 18:59:04 GMT -8
Actually Chip Smelly.
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Post by beavsaregood on Dec 2, 2016 21:10:01 GMT -8
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Post by TheGlove on Dec 3, 2016 8:14:10 GMT -8
Worst case scenario for whom?
I think it would be a good scenario for OSU if UO to signs a coach with no head coaching experience.
I think the chances are very, very, very slim that UO is even considering Smith and even smaller that they would hire him.
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Post by nabeav on Dec 3, 2016 8:25:36 GMT -8
Worst case scenario is Gary Andersen deciding he's built a good foundation here and sets his sights on building Oregon into a team in his image....for a 300% raise. Oregon State then panic hires someone at way over market value who isn't invested in OSU, just looking for a paycheck.
THAT'S my worst case scenario
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Post by snohobeav on Dec 3, 2016 11:19:41 GMT -8
Worst case scenario is Gary Andersen deciding he's built a good foundation here and sets his sights on building Oregon into a team in his image....for a 300% raise. Oregon State then panic hires someone at way over market value who isn't invested in OSU, just looking for a paycheck. THAT'S my worst case scenario Luckily that will never happen. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2016 17:08:59 GMT -8
Zero chance Andersen would end up at Oregon next season. Zero chance he'd consider something like that, that disloyal and slimy, after his controversial switch from Wisconsin to Oregon State just a couple short years ago. And also zero chance the ducks would offer him the job. They'll bring in a young coordinator with lots of potential ALA chip Kelly WAAYY before something like that. I know that was meant as a joke... but just saying. And trust me... I know this for a fact since I'm working in the Oregon Athletic department these days. By far the highest ranking Beaver fan in the entire athletic department. Haha.
I am slightly concerned about Andersen tho. I don't think the chances are very high... maybe 15%. But I wouldn't be surprised to see Andersen take a job somewhere else at one of the many high profile positions that'll be opening up before the annual coaching carousel stops spinning this year. Or more likely next year after the Beavs finish with 8-9 wins and a whole lot of talent returning the next year.
I really like Andersen a lot... I think he's the real deal. And I'm optimistic that he's happy in Corvallis and will stay for quite a while. But the fact that he does have a history of bouncing around from job to job with many short stints makes me nervous. A coaching change in the next year or two would be the worst thing the Beavers need right now.
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Post by drunkandstoopidbeav on Dec 3, 2016 18:18:03 GMT -8
Re Chilln72's theory... wouldn't shock me in the least.
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Post by lebaneaver on Dec 3, 2016 18:26:42 GMT -8
Zero chance Andersen would end up at Oregon next season. Zero chance he'd consider something like that, that disloyal and slimy, after his controversial switch from Wisconsin to Oregon State just a couple short years ago. And also zero chance the ducks would offer him the job. They'll bring in a young coordinator with lots of potential ALA chip Kelly WAAYY before something like that. I know that was meant as a joke... but just saying. And trust me... I know this for a fact since I'm working in the Oregon Athletic department these days. By far the highest ranking Beaver fan in the entire athletic department. Haha. I am slightly concerned about Andersen tho. I don't think the chances are very high... maybe 15%. But I wouldn't be surprised to see Andersen take a job somewhere else at one of the many high profile positions that'll be opening up before the annual coaching carousel stops spinning this year. Or more likely next year after the Beavs finish with 8-9 wins and a whole lot of talent returning the next year. I really like Andersen a lot... I think he's the real deal. And I'm optimistic that he's happy in Corvallis and will stay for quite a while. But the fact that he does have a history of bouncing around from job to job with many short stints makes me nervous. A coaching change in the next year or two would be the worst thing the Beavers need right now. If I worried about EVERYTHING I should be worried about...I'd be..uhh....worried...about EVERYTHING....A LOT! ;-) Here's how I see it; IF Andersen is SUCCESSFUL in bringing GOOD D1 talent to OSU, AND he builds a brand based on toughness and family....AND...we go bowling damn near every year (and once every five years or so, a GREAT bowl game!) , he'll be perfectly content to stay in Corvallis. A LOT of ifs...I know. He just doesn't appear to me to "give a s%#t" about the bling bling. JMHO, and I may be wrong. |
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Post by baseba1111 on Dec 3, 2016 19:37:55 GMT -8
Of course he's worried about "bling bling"!
It's he, his family, his staff and their families foundation for their futures. You think he takes the OSU job for what MR made? NOT A PRAYER!
Coaches at the D1 level (and others) love what they do. All have huge egos. All want to be paid commensurate with what they think their worth and the market will bear. And, most won't give it a 2nd thought to move on to a more prestigious and lucrative job. It's the way the "game" is played and GA is no different. He'd be the exception to the rule if he stayed at OSU with major success.
However, he is no where near being considered an elite coach. And, he'd have to have 4-6 years of bowls in a row with a couple being top 6 bowl games to get major job offers... IF any happen to be available.
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Post by lebaneaver on Dec 3, 2016 19:57:01 GMT -8
Of course he cares about $$$$. Any red blooded American had damn well better. Bling bling. Money BUYS it, but it isn't money. Here's to the "exception to the rule!"
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Post by sagebrush on Dec 4, 2016 3:58:33 GMT -8
What's so controversial about how he left Wisconsin. Would you put up with Unofficial, but still, Head Coach Forever Alvarez? Bielma didn't. Anderson didn't. Christ might because he is home and seems to have forgot how HCFA screwed him the first time.
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Post by RenoBeaver on Dec 4, 2016 9:50:32 GMT -8
Of course he's worried about "bling bling"! It's he, his family, his staff and their families foundation for their futures. You think he takes the OSU job for what MR made? NOT A PRAYER! Coaches at the D1 level (and others) love what they do. All have huge egos. All want to be paid commensurate with what they think their worth and the market will bear. And, most won't give it a 2nd thought to move on to a more prestigious and lucrative job. It's the way the "game" is played and GA is no different. He'd be the exception to the rule if he stayed at OSU with major success. However, he is no where near being considered an elite coach. And, he'd have to have 4-6 years of bowls in a row with a couple being top 6 bowl games to get major job offers... IF any happen to be available. LOL, yet Mike Riley parlayed two losing season at the college level into an NFL head coaching gig and Mike Macintyre's name has been thrown around at places like Texas after all those bowl appearances at Colorado. Gary Anderson is a good football coach. If and when he gets this team to a Pac 12 N title or double digit wins, he'll be mentioned for big time jobs, whichever are available. |
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Post by RenoBeaver on Dec 4, 2016 9:59:09 GMT -8
I really like Andersen a lot... I think he's the real deal. And I'm optimistic that he's happy in Corvallis and will stay for quite a while. But the fact that he does have a history of bouncing around from job to job with many short stints makes me nervous. A coaching change in the next year or two would be the worst thing the Beavers need right now. What history do you speak of? Realizing he took a job under a legend's shadow who still wanted input on the team, even though he's just your boss? He didn't "bail" on Wisconsin, he realized it was not a good situation for anyone and a better opportunity availed itself. You could argue he did Wisky a favor. And yeah, he thought Oregon State coming off a losing record was a better opportunity than staying at a perrenial powerhouse and listening to "under my thumb" 24 times a day in the locker room. By his choice, he basically started a college football program from near scratch, in a Power 5 conference. In his second year the program showed vast improvement, and it's mostly freshman and sophomores doing it. He'll have to deliver, particularly by year 4. If he does that, he's going to have tremendous support not only from fans, but from the university itself. Personal opinion, I don't think Anderson bails for a long long time. If Wisky looked like a losing proposition to him, it's not going to be much easier at a USC or LSU or Texas A&M. IMO he is OSU's equal to Whittingham, assuming he can get OS to that level. |
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